Ask Me Help Desk - Presidential dictatorship

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Originally Posted by cozyk

You people that are making these post. What is not clear about that? Which people did you think i was referring to?

"These posts?" Do you have a problem with being specific? I'm not saying anything "coo coo" or "spooky" and I don't know what all "these posts" are you consider "coo coo." I want to know specifically who you think is "spooky" and "coo coo."

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Americans sound cooky with their crazy notion that they need to have personal weapons to assure their protection. They are the only industrialized nation on earth that believes this is a requirement.

I realize you don't get it NK, but it's as simple as simple can get... it is our constitutional right to keep and bear arms. That right is the best guarantee we have of protecting the rest of our rights.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

No, I see a tremendous difference between a president joking about being a dictator and one working toward that end.

Here's the definition: "1 a: a person granted absolute emergency power ; especially : one appointed by the senate of ancient Rome b: one holding complete autocratic control c: one ruling absolutely and often oppressively."
Prove that he is doing that.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You also apparently don't like to cite the source. The question was "who" were you quoting, your answer just told us the obvious...someone else. I knew that much already.

It wasn't the source that mattered it was the content - you taught me that. I see you have no answer to the fact that your precious 2nd amendment is in no danger.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I realize you don't get it NK, but it's as simple as simple can get....it is our constitutional right to keep and bear arms. That right is the best guarantee we have of protecting the rest of our rights.

I got that. I also get that you are the only nation that seems to "cling" to it; makes you seem all savage and primitive.

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

I'm paranoid and coo-coo because I support the 2nd Amendment... just as the Founding Fathers did?

Supporting the Constitution is evidence of a mental disorder?

I guess in Obama-land where Obama-mania runs free, it is.

Where I come from, handing all your freedoms and personal responsiblities to the government in the name of "fairness" is off-the-wall crazy. But I guess in Obama-Land that is considered "normal".

Seems to me that the assylum is being run by the inmates... and you don't even recognize it.

One day we are going to wake up in the USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika) and you will wonder why food costs so much and there is so little of it, and why you can't see a doctor because the lines are too long, and why you can't afford to heat your home, and why so much of what you earn goes to the government, and why your car has only a 5-gallon gas tank but you still can't afford to fill it up, and why your car get's 300 miles to the gallon but you can't afford to travel 300 miles, and why you can't get a loan from the bank, and why your pharmacist has all the competence of your postman. You will wonder when the world changed so much and how you could ever have supported this stuff.

And it will be too late for me to say, "Told you so."

But I'm the one who's coo coo for supporting what it says in the Constitution and for having an understanding of its basis in history.

Elliot.

Yes, that is correct, you are one of the coo-coos. You have a fixation on doomsday scenarios.
I'm just glad I don't live in your head.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Here's the definition: "1 a: a person granted absolute emergency power ; especially : one appointed by the senate of ancient Rome b: one holding complete autocratic control c: one ruling absolutely and often oppressively." Prove that he is doing that.

I think Elliot covered that pretty well already. Bush's joke is still irrelevant.

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It wasn't the source that mattered it was the content - you taught me that.

Oh really? I doubt you'll find many if any that cite their source more than I do.

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I see you have no answer to the fact that your precious 2nd amendment is in no danger.

I don't believe it was I making the argument that it was in danger, but I know what he's said and I know his history of gun control legislation he supports.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I got that. I also get that you are the only nation that seems to "cling" to it; makes you seem all savage and primitive.

Yeah, I'd rather be "savage and primitive" and still have my rights than to be pompous and arrogant.

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

But I'm the one who's coo coo for supporting what it says in the Constitution and for having an understanding of its basis in history.

And who's going to assemble and organize the mighty militia made up of gun owners? (No one is taking away your rights any longer, by the way.)

All this talk of guns and liberty can only exist in a nation ruled by the gun. In enlightened places people don't need to be armed to feel secure and there is no need for fear of revolution to keep the government in check. You use your Constitution to reinforce your paranoia, I suppose it can only be expected in a nation that has seen two violent revolutions but if you spent more time curbing your opportunists you might find you don't need the gun to enforce freedom

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Originally Posted by paraclete

All this talk of guns and liberty can only exist in a nation ruled by the gun. In enlightened places people don't need to be armed to feel secure and there is no need for fear of revolution to keep the government in check. You use your Constitution to reinforce your paranoia, I suppose it can only be expected in a nation that has seen two violent revolutions but if you spent more time curbing your opportunists you might find you don't need the gun to enforce freedom

Ding ding ding, we have a winner folks! Well put paraclete.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I got that. I also get that you are the only nation that seems to "cling" to it; makes you seem all savage and primitive.

I know, it's down right embarrassing.:o

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

"These posts?" Do you have a problem with being specific? I'm not saying anything "coo coo" or "spooky" and I don't know what all "these posts" are you consider "coo coo." I want to know specifically who you think is "spooky" and "coo coo."

Well, it started getting weird around post 22, followed by 25, 26, 27.

Then it picked back up with posts 36 and 42

Our Congress gave him the permission to do whatever he needed to do to straighten out the mess we made. Even the supreme court got a little worried and stopped the sale of one of the auto makers, or delayed it, Fiat was going to buy it. I lost track of all he has done but we should voice our opinions, not wait for the government to turn 100% Nationalist, or Socialist, same thing. A socialist government has to have a Dictator. I do not think we as the people of the US would put up with a dictator for long. How long will it be before we see in the US streets what happened in Iran?

If our health care is Socialized by what he wants to do, we are in big trouble. Our health care system supports more small businesses than any other business. All those Doctors offices, Medical supply stores, Pharmacies, and on and on. And small businesses are what is keeping America alive. If we take them out, what's left? That's my opinion.

Our Congress gave Obahma the permission to do whatever he needed to do to straighten out the mess we made. Even the supreme court got a little worried and stopped the sale of one of the auto makers, or delayed it, Fiat was going to buy it. I lost track of all he has done but we should voice our opinions, not wait for the government to turn 100% Nationalist, or Socialist, same thing. A socialist government has to have a Dictator. I do not think we as the people of the US would put up with a dictator for long. How long will it be before we see in the US streets what happened in Iran?

If our health care is Socialized by what he wants to do, we are in big trouble. Our health care system supports more small businesses than any other business. All those Doctors offices, Medical supply stores, Pharmacies, and on and on. And small businesses are what is keeping America alive. If we take them out, what's left? That's my opinion.

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Originally Posted by cozyk

Well, it started getting weird around post 22, followed by 25, 26, 27.

then it picked back up with posts 36 and 42

I think my other question was "who" specifically do you think is coo coo? Since you specified Elliot does he constitute the entirety of "you people?" Come on, name all the "coo coo" people you're referring to.

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Originally Posted by cozyk

I know, it's down right embarrassing.:o

Our constitutional rights of over 200 years are embarrassing? It figures you would find our rights embarrassing. Samuel Adams and Benjamin Franklin didn't think so...

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"I. Natural Rights of the Colonists as Men.

Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature...."

"... In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society, to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights; the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property. If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave... "

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Samuel Adams and Benjamin Franklin didn't think so...

Dead people... in a society far different than now.

Cozyk likes nothing better than to stir the pot. It is far easier to block her completely than to get upset over nonsense comments from her fingers.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Dead people...in a society far different than now.

Ah, ol' Ben is irrelevant and Sam is good for nothing more than a beer label now? I consider it timeless wisdom, only you would you argue it's just "dead people" in a different society. Let's just toss the constitution and write a new one. I'm sure the brilliant Mr. Obama and his sidekick Ramblin' Joe Biden can come up with something far better.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Gal

it's in Georgia

The citizen's grand jury by the 'birthers' will have the same impact as the impeachment forums run by Dennis Kuchinich.

but for anyone interested here is the website

Barak Obama A.K.A. Barry Soetoro is illegal POTUS

Not sure Tom, but this may not be the same thing that I heard about at the rally Saturday.