Ask Me Help Desk - Messiah update

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

McCain is Jesus...in a penguin costume.

And you asked if I was still in high school?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

And you asked if I was still in high school?

You're my role model here.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Bite me, Bobby. Do you have anything more than insults these days?

It was insulting to point out facts? Like you supported Dubya's failed presidency?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

The relevance to why it matters if Obama has - not some - but many, many nutty followers, do you want a bunch of nutty people deciding who sits in the White House? I'd rather people decide based on reality, not what they hope he might be.

You did this to yourself... again. You're blind to Jillian's argument that both candidates have some support base that cheers on their candidate no matter the circumstance, and a hypocrite for commenting, "The relevance to why it matters if Obama has - not some - but many, many nutty followers, do you want a bunch of nutty people deciding who sits in the White House."

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You're my role model here.

No, I'll gladly give you the credit when you've earned it... like now.

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

NK You are the winner of the look a like contest. Good Job finding that!!!

Well, if it's a contest then this should be the winner:

http://bp3.blogger.com/_QQDkIq2Ukmg/..._Is_Gollum.jpg

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

do you want a bunch of nutty people deciding who sits in the White House[/I]."

Psst, Jillian... here's exhibit A.

EVERYONE shoud be disturbed by this!

[U]This from Culture and Media Institute

Even more scary, yesterday the Drudge Report showed the world a video of Kansas City junior high school students chillingly called the “Obama Youth.” We watch boys clad uniformly in camouflage pants and dark T-shirts declare, fists clenched, that “because of Obama” they can become chemical engineers, scientists or mechanics. The teacher who furnished the video to the local Fox TV station has now been suspended – not for using public funds to teach the kids to worship Obama, but for allowing the video to be seen in public.

Another YouTube video, “Sing for Change for Obama,” shows a choir of California grade schoolers, directed by adults, singing about the hope instilled in them by Obama. A YouTube send up of the video has renamed it “Sing for Change for Obama, Dear Leader,” pointing up the parallel to the object of the world's most oppressive cult of personality, dictator Kim Jong Il of North Korea.

Is messiah the right word after all?

There are weirdos everywhere, have you not seen the Jesus Camp videos? Yet we still allow christianity to exist. Weird.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

There are weirdos everywhere, have you not seen the Jesus Camp videos? Yet we still allow christianity to exist. Weird.

So, would YOU vote for Jesus for President?? You offer a straaaaange argument here!!

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Yet we still allow christianity to exist. Weird.

And we still allow you to speak your mind, no matter how absurd the result.

$839 million spent to provide food, healthcare, shelter, education and such from one US Christian organization alone last year, most of which I'm sure came from individual Christians such as myself. By far, the majority of assistance to homeless people in my city of 200,000 in the way of food, shelter, clothing, etc. comes via four Christian organizations, Salvation Army, Faith City Mission, Citychurch and one whose name escapes me. What are you going to have left when you eliminate Christianity, Joe Biden?

I'm not trying to eliminate anything. You guys are trying to disqualify Obama 'cause some fringe group has weird rituals. Do you think Obama promotes and endorses this?

BTW why are you helping the homeless?? Are you a communist? If they can't hack working then they are the problem. Oh wait... that's the republican talking point... never mind.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I'm not trying to eliminate anything. You guys are trying to disqualify Obama 'cause some fringe group has weird rituals. Do you think Obama promotes and endorses this?

No, you aren't "trying" to eliminate it, you just made a disturbing statement. The point is there are valid reasons to not only ensure Christianity exists but that it thrives. Oh, and our God is much more worthy of worship than theirs.

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BTW why are you helping the homeless?? Are you a communist? If they can't hack working then they are the problem. Oh wait... that's the republican talking point... never mind.

Think the difference between talking the talk and walking the walk.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

No, you aren't "trying" to eliminate it, you just made a disturbing statement.

Please refer to galveston's post and direct any further words to him on this subject.

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Originally Posted by Galveston1

EVERYONE shoud be disturbed by this!!

[U]This from Culture and Media Institute

Even more scary, yesterday the Drudge Report showed the world a video of Kansas City junior high school students chillingly called the “Obama Youth.” We watch boys clad uniformly in camouflage pants and dark T-shirts declare, fists clenched, that “because of Obama” they can become chemical engineers, scientists or mechanics. The teacher who furnished the video to the local Fox TV station has now been suspended – not for using public funds to teach the kids to worship Obama, but for allowing the video to be seen in public.

Gal, did you not notice the kids in the video are all black? Don't you think it's inspiring for young black kids to see another black person achieve what Obama has? Why should we be disturbed by this?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Please refer to galveston's post and direct any further words to him on this subject.

Addressing what you say to Galveston makes as much sense as Obama supporters thinking that because they had to endure our ignorant choice we should have to endure their ignorant choice.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Psst, Jillian...here's exhibit A.

Speech, some Pubs like to talking religiously about the campaign. For example, the early efforts to try and present Obama out to be some sort of Anti-Christ, or a radical closet Muslim. Well rip and read this to your pastor, there's a Yiddish proverb that reminds me of your on going silly hypocritical ego driven arguments with Jillian, myself and a few others... that is "When the Messiah comes, all the sick will be healed; only a fool will stay a fool."

PS. Jillian's making perfect sense about the Black youth in the video.

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

Speech, some Pubs like to talking religiously about the campaign. For example, the early efforts to try and present Obama out to be some sort of Anti-Christ, or a radical closet Muslim. Well rip and read this to your pastor, there's a Yiddish proverb that reminds me of your on going silly hypocritical ego driven arguments with Jillian, myself and a few others....that is "When the Messiah comes, all the sick will be healed; only a fool will stay a fool."

PS. Jillian's making perfect sense about the Black youth in the video.

Bobby, as I keep reminding you guys, I defended Obama against those ignorant rumors. I'm sure that's what my pastor would have expected.

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

PS. Jillian's making perfect sense about the Black youth in the video.

Thanks! :)

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Originally Posted by jillianleab

Surely you understand a black man running for the highest office in our country (and having a real shot at it) is monumental? The quotes you've posted indicate that to me - people are excited about the progress Obama being elected means we've made in this country, it speaks VOLUMES that we are finally willing and able to put a young black man in a position consistantly held by old white men. Of course people are energized, of course they are excited.

I hear this all the time.

This is the equivalent of voting for someone based on their skin color, or age?

Is that really progress?

MLK said people should be judged on the content of their charater.

Is voting for a "black" man just because it is monumental or historical really true to what MLK spoke of?

Is voting for or against Obama because of his skin color really progress?
Is voting for or against McCain because he is "an old white dude" really progress?

Oddly enough, are there voters saying I'm voting for the McCain/Palin ticket because it would be historic or monumental to have the first female VP?

A lot of people say she is not qualified.

Can the same be said of Obama?

If a white voter does not vote for Obama, can it be because they do not think he is not qualified or don't agree with his stance on certain issues, and has nothing to do with the fact that he is half black?

Another question:

1] What if Obama is elected, and like any human being, he is not perfect and makes some bad choices or the economy gets worse or does not get better fast enough; will his followers then become apostates?;)

2] What if Obam does not get elected, what will his followers still worship him as a senator?
;)

BTW:

If I were to vote purely on the basis of color, for a "black" man for POTUS, it would be Tiger Woods in 2012 ;):)