You're welcome to whatever comfort you can take from this fact, but that was before a majority figured out the con in neocon.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
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You're welcome to whatever comfort you can take from this fact, but that was before a majority figured out the con in neocon.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I doubt that any of us know the full extent of it at this point. Even for what we do know, repair work will take decades or generations, not months or years.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Obama Just picked up two more superdelegates one of them a Clinton supporter. That makes 309 SD for Obama and 279 SD for Clinton. Total Delegates 1,967 for Obama and 1,779 for Clinton You are right Sky look at that support just slipping away from Obama.
Please let Excon and myself know what you are smoking and where to get it cause we need some of that!!
What will you Dems do when Obama gets the most delegates but Evita gets the overall vote count ?
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Same thing as 2000 call Obama the winner like they did with G Dub when he lost the popular vote.
How would you define the "vote count" in caucus states? Would you give Obama the votes for "uncommitted" in Michigan where he wasn't on the ballot?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Good questions . Spit I thought the Dems were the party of "every vote counts" . OG I think Evita will do like a good Dem does and challenge the results in court.
Yes every vote should count unless the rules are broken. Mi and Fl broke the rules hence their votes don't count. Everyone agreed their votes will not count. But since Hill needs those votes she wants to change the rules at the end of the game. As Obama would say "politics as usual"
The more he opens his mouth, the weaker he becomes.
I haven't seen mention of his comments regarding America and Our "habits"?
Again, I can't quote him exactly, but along the lines of, [ we can't just keep driving our SUV's, continue to eat all the food we want, and keep our thermostats at 72 degrees, and expect these other countries to just go, OK]!
Who the heck wants a president that thinks we need to get permission from these "other countries" to do what we choose to do?
Who among us wants our president to seek permission from the likes of Chavez, to continue to enjoy the freedoms we as Americans have fought and died to protect?
I know it is impossible to prove, but at this point, the less he says, the better off he'll be.
As for me, the more he says, the more we learn, and the more I become convinced that this man is not only not qualified for, but in no way, should he be allowed to lead this nation.
Pol Watchers: Obama says he'll need more time to connect with KY
“What it says is that I’m not very well known in that part of the country,” Obama said. “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known — not only because of her time in the White House with her husband — but also coming from a nearby state of Arkansas.”
I guess in Obama's 59 states Arkansas is "close" to Kentucky. Maybe Obama forgot that the southern part of Illinois actually borders Kentucky.
How old is he?
What school did he graduate from?
Maybe Obama's health record needs to be checked for alzheimers. :)
So half aren't sure about him...
Why is this a surprise?
About half weren't sure about bush or gore, give or take a few %s.
A big surprise??
Predictably there are lawsuits being filed to contest those rules . Seems that those rules violate little things like the Voting Rights Act.Quote:
Yes every vote should count unless the rules are broken. Mi and Fl broke the rules hence their votes don't count.
Democrats file suit to seat Florida delegates - 05/22/2008 - MiamiHerald.com
Although seating Florida's delegates would help Evta because she won the majority of the vote in Florida's primary, the lawsuit was filed by not only by Geller who is an uncommitted super-delegate, but by Barbara Effman who is a Florida delegate for Hillary Clinton and by Percy Johnson who is a Florida delegate for Barack Obama.
Hello again:
The only way McCain wins, is if the Dems self destruct... They're well on their way to doing just that.
Might I suggest that's why the right supports Hillary? Nahhh... They wouldn't be so devious, would they?
excon
I wouldn't actually call it support . More like 'assisted suicide ' .I think on a national level Evita is the stonger candidate and think of the two Dems would make a better President.
But that has not been the reason .I have made it no secret that I wanted to Dem race to last into the convention and the eventual nominee coming out weaker. Also it gave us the opportunity to expose Obama using the Clintoon attack machine.
It is to late to change the fact that Obama is going to be the nominee. Hilllary's stupid comments about RFK nailed her .But at least some of the truth about Obama has been revealed. Stuff evidently McCain is not willing to dig for on his own.
Call it devious if you want . We have proven that Obama is not above 'politics as ususal 'either .The skin has been peeled from the onion.
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