"He's been running around the country preaching for a long time. In fact he preached at a Baptist church here... without discussing politics. Even as an evangelical that's what bothers me, how many people might be supporting him as pastor without regard as to what kind of president he would be."

There was Carter, Clinton, and now Huck. Even Gore tried this, but hell, he went to Harvard.

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There was Carter, Clinton, and now Huck. Even Gore tried this, but hell, he went to Harvard.

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Carter, Clinton and Gore were pastors preaching in churches??

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Carter, Clinton and Gore were pastors preaching in churches????

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Oh yes; you didn't know? Dems can be pols and pastors and there are no church/state problems; those appear when you are GOP/pol; actually heard mention last night of Giuliani discussing his faith, and all eyebrows were suspiciously raised.

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There was Carter, Clinton, and now Huck. Even Gore tried this, but hell, he went to Harvard.

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Carter was a Sunday School teacher, and he was not a conservative evangelical. The Clintons and Gore strictly pandered, they don't actually speak the language... at least not believably.

"I don't feel no ways tired. I come too farrrrrr from where I started..."

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and all eyebrows were suspiciously raised.

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Hello again, George:

Yeah, and I was one of 'em!

You'll have to pardon me if I look askance at all the Republicans (and even the Democrats) trying to out Christian each other. Frankly, I'm embarrassed by it.

Me? I believe the Constitution where it says that there shall be no religious test for president. Apparently these people are trying to pass a test that they're all making up.

I don't like it when people make up stuff about the Constitution, or disrespect what it says. If I were running for PRESIDENT of the most powerful nation in the world (where in my oath of office, I'm going to promise to faithfully uphold and defend the Constitution), and I was asked about MY religion, I would politely decline the invitation and cite the Constitution.

But, that's just me.

excon

Carter is most definitely an evangelical. Check this: frontline: the jesus factor: president and his faith: religion in the white house - then and now | PBS

Why excon, you remind me of Ronald Reagan; so exemplary!

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Hello again, George:

Yeah, and I was one of 'em!

You'll have to pardon me if I look askance at all the Republicans (and even the Democrats) trying to out Christian each other. Frankly, I’m embarrassed by it.

Me? I believe the Constitution where it says that there shall be no religious test for president. Apparently these people are trying to pass a test that they're all making up.

I don't like it when people make up stuff about the Constitution, or disrespect what it says. If I were running for PRESIDENT of the most powerful nation in the world, where in my oath of office, I'm going to promise to faithfully uphold the Constitution, and I was asked about MY religion, I would politely decline the invitation and cite the Constitution. But, that's just me.

excon

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My friend, you will know the rubber has hit the road when Obama is visiting in Southern, black churches; the Democratic South Carolina primary is two weeks away?? Politics does make strange bedfellows.

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Hello Steve:

How many?? All those people who think this is a Christian country. I think there's quite a few people who think that.

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Yeah, but we aren't talking about all those people, just the 30-35 percent of the country that fit the bill of an evangelical. And among those, the ones that more than likely would vote Republican, and among that number those that support Huckabee without knowing much of anything about his politics.

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My friend, you will know the rubber has hit the road when Obama is visiting in Southern, black churches;

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Hello again, George:

I'm sure he'll be a regular old black Elmer Gantry.

excon

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Carter is most definitely an evangelical. Check this: frontline: the jesus factor: president and his faith: religion in the white house - then and now | PBS

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Carter is and was most definitely a liberal Baptist, in his politics and in his religion. He and Huckabee are miles apart in what I'm referring to.

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Carter is most definitely an evangelical. Check this: frontline: the jesus factor: president and his faith: religion in the white house - then and now | PBS

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From the article you quoted:

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But Jimmy Carter comes out of an old Baptist tradition that very much respected, highlighted, revered the separation of church and state.

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I really don't care what he does on his own time, it's how he brings it, or not, to the office and effects change because of it.

Of course one issue not reallly mentioned, there is no "real" separation of church and state, the constitution only stops the government from passing a law that restricts the church ( although they do it all the time anyway) and it stops them from having a national religion.

At no time does it really say that churches can't have a say in the political process, it does not say that churches can't work for the election of people that will help make thins happen.

For example, the issue here was that he was against gay marriage and abortion. Now if his religiouis views allowed these and he wanted to make gay marriage legal because of his religioius views on it, then the same people against the one, would be all for the other.

Religion is only bad when it is against your moral lifestyle to most people complaining here.

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Religion is only bad when it is against your moral lifestyle to most people complaining here.

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