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Originally Posted by talaniman

The ones that I have looked up are spin offs of the major regional/local carriers from what I have seen. I have only checked Oregon, Utah, California, New York, and of course Texas.

Even the so called independent plans are underwritten by a larger insurance GROUP.

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The question was which ones are legit?

Obamacare is coming, and so are the con artists

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"There are fake exchanges already up and running on the Internet," said Monica Lindeen, Montana's Commissioner of Securities and Insurance. "If you do a search and type in 'exchange,' you'll find all sorts of websites that claim to be in the exchange when they are not."

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

The question was which ones are legit?

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And it was always so in the marketplace.

For years though the idea was to open up the insurance market for out of state competition. Don't know if that's good or bad because I doubt big companies allow smaller ones to take their dollars from them.

Hello again,

IF Obamacare is SUCH a disaster, why not let it get implemented? It'll FAIL, and then it'll be easy to repeal?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

IF Obamacare is SUCH a disaster, why not let it get implemented? It'll FAIL, and then it'll be easy to repeal?

excon

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I'm sure that's your approach to business, right? Maybe you can take that approach in fantasy football.

Hello again, Steve:

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I'm sure that's your approach to business, right?

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Actually, it IS.

I've been told a zillion times that MY business ideas are CRAZY and would NEVER work. In response, I've said if they're so bad, let the market decide.

And, it did.

Excon

And you can always change course without resistance. Put what you know is a bad football team out there and let's see how it works. Please.

We had the same argument over Social Security, and Medicare, and both have become popular bedrocks of our society, even among the TParty.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

The ones that I have looked up are spin offs of the major regional/local carriers from what I have seen. I have only checked Oregon, Utah, California, New York, and of course Texas.

Even the so called independent plans are underwritten by a larger insurance GROUP.

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The problem is going to come in when you try to regulate what is going on with a given insurance company. As it is now the States have been controlling them from within the States. If / when sales from outside insurance companies come to market the States may have no way of controlling the quality of payment to subscribers.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

IF Obamacare is SUCH a disaster, why not let it get implemented? It'll FAIL, and then it'll be easy to repeal?

excon

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That of course is the plan ;implement it and it will put the final nail into private health care system ;opening the door for the single payer system the left truly wants. The Dems don't even try to hide the fact that that is the goal.

No we don't, everybody knows that's the goal but you are wrong about the role that private insurance companies will play.

Canadian Health Care: Private Health Insurance

I guess you don't want anyone to know that most countries with single payer also have private insurance providers.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

No we don't, everybody knows that's the goal but you are wrong about the role that private insurance companies will play.

Canadian Health Care: Private Health Insurance

I guess you don't want anyone to know that most countries with single payer also have private insurance providers.

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We have something similar. Government and private institutions provide for health care. We also have a PBS. Most prescription medication is heavily subsidized. But not over the counter medication.

Private and employer based insurance has been going up for decades here Tut, and I am sure costs are going up still in places that have single/private payer.

I can't think of one damn thing that hasn't gone up, and keeps going up. NOT one damn thing. Even the cost of discount toilet paper is too damn high!!

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Private and employer based insurance has been going up for decades here Tut, and I am sure costs are going up still in places that have single/private payer.

I can't think of one damn thing that hasn't gone up, and keeps going up. NOT one damn thing. Even the cost of discount toilet paper is too damn high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ain't that the truth. Here as well.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

No we don't, everybody knows that's the goal but you are wrong about the role that private insurance companies will play.

Canadian Health Care: Private Health Insurance

I guess you don't want anyone to know that most countries with single payer also have private insurance providers.

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That's accommodations for the greedy... right ?

No just a balanced and fair for the most part. OPTIONS.

I won't even bother with how UPS is cutting coverage for employee spouses, the school district that just made all it's substitute teachers part-timers or anything like that, just a note that unions are still not happy with Obamacare, especially in Dingy Harry Reid's state. They seem to be upset about that oft-quoted promise of if you like it you can keep it being broken...

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"We want to hold the president to his word that you can keep the plan you like," Taylor added.

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OK, carry on.

It will never be the emperor's fault.. UPS is just being greedy don'tcha know ?

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I won't even bother with how UPS is cutting coverage for employee spouses, the school district that just made all it's substitute teachers part-timers or anything like that, just a note that unions are still not happy with Obamacare, especially in Dingy Harry Reid's state. They seem to be upset about that oft-quoted promise of if you like it you can keep it being broken....



OK, carry on.

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Forever 21... just comverted or are in the process of.. converting every full time job into a 29.5 hour part time job. Because they can't afford mandated health care.

Democrats would be harping about how many new jobs were created... while ignoring the fact they used to be full time jobs.

UPS has seen rising costs any way for many years, everyone has, so now they have an excuse to screw the workers. Guess you haven't noticed workers across the nation are mobilizing, and citizens are angry, and mobilizing, against their state legislatures.

If the pizza guys can figure it out, and Olive Garden, surely UPS can too. I know you guys want to fight somebody, but you better pick your fights carefully. The earth is round and what goes around comes back around. I mean Squeal and Repeal I great, but what do you replace it with? >waiting for the crickets to chirp, or the squeal to get louder.<

At least acknowledge the price of everything has been going up before Obama came along.