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Could it be these cities your talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
60% of Gun Murders Take Place in Major Cities Which Voted for Obama
The 5 U.S. Cities With the Worst Gang Violence - Neighborhoods - The Atlantic Cities
Gun Violence Destroying Pennsylvania Cities' Black Community
Chicago, Rahmbo, toughest gun laws... how many murders last year?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I'm only 12 and this upsets me because the politicians are disagreeing with the country. We get it you have more authority than we do but we have the freedom to keep our children safe . If they put themselves in Newtowns' position they would have changed that law quicker than the speed of lightning. but its not only that all of the crazy people out there can just take someone's gun and go on a rampage!! :(
It is important that you have opinions on subjects and also be willing to defend them. The best way is through educating yourself. But you have to be very careful with what you read on the internet. Not every thing you read is true and you have to filter it. Do your own research to be able to form defendable opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by JARIXA
Having said all of that. What do your parents think of all of this mess that we are in and have you spoken with them about it? Have they also read through this thread and cheked it for accuracy?
Hello again;
So, there ARE some pro lifers who get the disconnect between supporting life in the womb at ALL costs, and supporting UNLIMITED guns in society...
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More than 60 Catholic priests, nuns, scholars and two former ambassadors to the Vatican sent a letter this week saying that if marchers and politicians truly want to defend life they should support “common-sense reforms to address the epidemic of gun violence in our nation.”
They called in particular on Catholic lawmakers, naming the House speaker, John A. Boehner, and Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, both Republicans.
The key words being common sense. They don't support a ban on everything. While emotions are running high it is far to easy to overstep the problem that truly exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
60 that many ? I think there are more than that in my county .
Hello righty's:
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60 that many ?
ONE fruit vendor set off the Arab Spring.Quote:
They don't support a ban on everything.
We SHOULD be able to make a deal then, because nobody plans a ban on everything...
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Yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Maybe the anti-gun protesters that were headed for the Harrisburg PA Gun Show that was cancelled a day or so ago, will go on a pro-life march instead. Harrisburg claims the area lost $ 80 million in business over the cancellation when more than 200 vendors, including companies like Cabelas pulled out.
I think it depends on who you talk to. There are some out there that are squalling about an all encompasing ban. Also there are talks about banning ammo.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I think the real problem is that many speaking out on the subject are not educated about what is real and what is just the truth being blown out of proportion. Also Im not overly comfortable about those that plan on making a ban for thee but not for me. That makes no sense to pretnd something doesn't exist.
As much as I admire Feinstein for her fortitude through the years as a politician. She has double speak when it comes to this debate. When she felt threatened she got a carry permit. At about the same time she also voted for banning guns in the city of SanFrancisco. There can be no debate when it is a one sided argument. It either applies or it doesn't. This does not preclude the need for secret service protection or the need for LEO's throughout the country to have the tools needed to do the job they were hired for.
Hello dad:
Don't pay attention to the kibbitzers. Pay attention to the lawmakers. Yes, Feinstein got a gun... And, her proposal doesn't BAN handguns. The Obama/Biden proposal doesn't ban handguns..
excon
Not at this point as it hasn't been formed fully yet. But there is a push for semi-automatics to be banned. That would also include many hand guns. That is why I have been pushing for education of all sides so the debate can be even and just. Otherwise those armed with misinformation are going to be much more dangerous then any gun could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And to be fair so its completely clear I am in favor of defending the second amendment and also gun owners rights. So there is a bias in what I say but I try to stick to the truth.
I think they should vote on her bill immediately.. get a count... I expect there are enough Dems opposed to the bill to prevent a straight 51 % majority .Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, dad:
The targets I shot when I was a kid were NRA targets.. The distinguished pistol shot medal I won is from the NRA. I'm biased toward the Second Amendment too. I support the ENTIRE Constitution..
And, like you, I believe in "common sense" gun regulation.
excon
I know we stand in common on many sides of issues we all face. I think what my concern is that when we start talking about military style weapons then by extension the debate may include semi-automatics. As most military can atest to when being issued a firearm it usually involves 2 parts. One being a rifle (the choice of the service your in) and another is a sidearm (most likely a semiautomatic). That is why I push for education and ask that the debates stay as honest as information allows.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I skimmed through it and I see some major problems coming from it. The people that they are going to be taking guns away from aren't going to be happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
As I understand the ban, its for future public sales, and owners are grandfathered into it.
How weak you are? How unwilling to meet the challenge, you have been brainwashed
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