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Yep, it's law and I can already tell you that 100% of the youngun's you need enrolled that I've spoken with about it since yesterday are pi$$ed. Plus, it's the government and the feds suck at most everything. Day one and besides the non-functioning websites, 2400 people had their private data leaked. That we know of.
Hello again, Steve:
Yeah, it has glitches...
Yawwwwwn..
excon
Hitlers Nazi Gerrmany had a few glitches too.
Maybe because its true...
Not everything about Nazi germany was bad... but they did pull a couple of whoppers (the final solution as well as invading other countries.).
Glitches? 2400 people potentially had their lives stolen on day one and you call that a glitch? Having your identity stolen is no glitch, that's hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
So you have gone from data leaked to identity stolen. Let me know when it gets to abducted by aliens or replaced by pod people.
Just pointing out the exaggerations on your part, that justifies me calling you guys squealers, and howlers.
Guess you missed that word "potentially" in there. Or was that just an intentional exaggeration on your part?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Should I have said your potential exaggeration, and howling? Naw, sounds better my way.
Oh I believe that if an Apple operating system was unusable the day it was introduced there would be a whole bunch of ex-Apple employees.Quote:
Every new app/technology has glitches to work out, challenging yes, doable of course. Ask Microsoft or Apple.
The ACA operating system is unusable? If anything, yesterday and today will sharpen up the system. Each day will give cues to sharpen more.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello again, tom:
It's true. But, they wouldn't have pulled the product back.. They just would have fixed it. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if a whole lot of Obamacare roll out dufus's get fired too.Quote:
Oh I believe that if an Apple operating system was unusable the day it was introduced there would be a whole bunch of ex-Apple employees.
But, he's NOT going to delay, it, defund it, or repeal it. When you want to talk about FIXING it, you'll have a welcome audience. But, that ain't what you want to do. You've NEVER wanted to do that.
Excon
California ;a state that was gung-ho for the whole thing from the git-go had the max time to prepare their exchanges ;and also the best minds in silicon valley to develop the software and systems . Well that was full of glitches... Now all the reports we are hearing is about glitches in all the states... we have heard nothing about the integration of all of them into a national data base (hint ;the IRS is still using 1970s and 1980s computersQuote:
It's true. But, they wouldn't have pulled the product back.. They just would have fixed it. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if a whole lot of Obamacare roll out dufus's get fired too.
And just a warning for all. There are bogus phishing sites all over the web .
Copy that on bogus sites and scammers.
Apparently the system worked flawlessly in Florida.
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Originally Posted by smoothy
Perhaps you could give us some examples of things that were not bad. Maybe, the "feeble-minded" legislation(s) is one you had in mind.
Well Tutt just maybe they way they got youth off its backside and participating is something we could get a take on in this age, but we must remember the bad aspects are never far awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
Look at the Autobahn system... that was mostly designed and build in the 1930's when most cars were pathetically slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
But here is a list of only 10 of the many..
http://listverse.com/2011/01/31/top-...zis-got-right/
Or these..
He wrote first law of protecting the animals.
He started first checking of drunk drivers.
Organized crime was brought to 0% during his time.
He created ecologic laws for protecting water, earth and air.
For the first time in history workers had paid vacations.
After death of Fritz Todt he created black box for airplanes.
He prohibited selling of cigarettes to women.
He prohibited smoking to people in uniforms and persons under the age of 18.
He also prohibited smoking in public areas.
He first placed photos of lungs etc. on cigarette boxes.
He is the founder of Volskwagen (people cars), and the designer of VW beetles, the world nr 1 saled car.
He fighted Breast Cancer and Lung Cancer.
The first freeways in the world were built in Germany. Autobahn ("The whole world came, and saw, and copied.").
He saved Germany from unemployment and financial ruin.
He Promoted of architecture,music and the arts;
First epic olympic games were held in 1936-Germany
World's first research linking smoking and cancer thanks to Hitler;
An Affordable Vacation is your right, thanks to Adolf
Women's rights
Homes with gardens. No more "rabbit-warrens".
Under the guidance of the Reich, Europe would speedily have become unified.
He free the German media, German education, Geman finance, German politics, German culture from the Jews and all communists who wanted to transform Germany into a ruined country under soviet power.
Reunited all German speaking langues into Großdeutsches Reich
Protection of animals and
During his reign Germany was the most powerful state in the world
Greatest tehnology in human history was developed by Third Reich (first jet fighters, bombers, first stealth plane, first stealth submarine, first rockets, nuclear weapons, orbitals bombers, first helicopters, first flying disk, first TV programs, first 3d movies, first rifles and the list can go on... )
Nobody is ignoring the bad he did... but that's stuff everyone knows already.
Actually that isn't true. Look at Apples history and then look at the Apple Lisa. Or in the news as of late Micrsoft with its release of Win8. Bad bad mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Apparently you are correct. I will keep this stuff in mind next time I am driving a volkswagen down an autobahn not smoking a cigarette.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
As hinted in my earlier post I am interested in the social policies in relation to race,culture and ethnicity you think he got right. It is just a simple matter of saying you don't think he got any of these right. It is a simple as that.
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Originally Posted by smoothy
You think so?
P.S. In relation to your 6th point. How can someone create a black box for aircraft after they they have died?
Also, I though it was an Australian who invented the black box recorded was an Australian invention.
Don't worry about it. I just worked out who the ubiquitous "he" is in your list.
I stand corrected... Windows 8 sucks and is unusable and yet it still sells. I am working on one right now and only use the Desktop feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
Windows 8 could be a whole other thread. Its sad. That is why Im still holding on dearly to Win7 ultra.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
If I understand you correctly you are telling us we are all living in a post Nazi utopia and should thank AH. I have travelled on the autobahns, can't say I enjoyed the experience, I used to own a VW a long time ago and I came to know what Hitlers revenge means and these war time advances in weaponry were used to kill people so not good, you also forget to say he was a racist B@stard who carried out the mass extermination of a race, you cannot just classify that under badQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
The request was for the good things he did... the list was limited to that. Also take time to read the last sentence... its in the quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I've also traveled the autobahns... In Austria AND Germany... they sucked in Austria (bumpy expansion joints)... but they were freaking awesome in Germany (at least the parts that were once WEST Germany). And I've been east west north and south on them.
I don't know where you travelled on them but I travelled from Switzerland right through the Rhineland to Holland before the fall of the wall and the only place I found them to be of good standard was near the Dutch border, but then I wasn't tarvelling in a high speed car and had to contend with the trucksQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
As far as I'm concerned anything to do with Nazi is not good, some outcomes may have been all right for the time but the thinking stinks. Who wants to live in a national socialist homerginised state. Zieg Heil and all that crap
When I was on a Autobahn.. I was traveling at prety high speeds over 90 mph... sure there is traffic at certain times of the day... thats to be expected in densely populated areas. But I was talking about the quality of the roads. I traveled most of it in excess of 120 mph. (heck... some of it was in a 1987 VW Jetta, 125 mph in light rain)Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I didn't have a Ferrari or what even passed as a sports car... and driving at those speeds was as effortless as 55mph on American Highways.
As far as what the Germans did... your argument would be the same as disregarding the person who finds the cure for cancer... because they once had an accident driving while drunk that had a fatality.
If you are going to acknowledge the bad... you have to acknowledge the good as well.
NY State claimed they had 30 million visits to their web site.. FYI the population for the state is estimated to be 19.5 million . In contrast ;the White House ,which handles the Federal exchange for 36 states claimed 4.7million hits according to Jake Tapper. They would not say how many enrolled .Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Also in constrast was California... which has the most populus state , had 5.7 million hits . Clearly the NY enrollment is working fine .
Hello again, tom:
Yeah, glitches... Yawwwwn.
excon
Cavuto: Mr. President, we at Fox News are not the problem - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
Sleep through this video if you want to .
Hello again, tom:
That video is brought to you by the network who told us about the death panels... Well, that wasn't so. So, I didn't sleep through it. I simply paid it no attention...
The law needs FIXING. But, you don't want to FIX it. You want to DESTROY it. You have from the get go. Nothing you've EVER said about it wound up being so. Oh, it's wieldy. It's complex, and it NEEDS tweaking... But, it NEVER was a "takeover". It NEVER was ANYTHING you've ever said about it.
But, all that's PASSED. It's LAW. Live with it.
excon
Tom you know this is all down to how much access you provide, but it may be that there were problems and therefore multiple attempts to progressQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Funny, but that's what we were saying about your view of the system we had before you rammed this crap sandwich down our throats.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
That argument of course has always persuaded the lefties .Even when they can't change the laws through legislation or the courts ,they undermine them through executive action ,or ignore them in the bureaucracy.Quote:
But, all that's PASSED. It's LAW. Live with it.
Since we know you guys never liked the way he handles his job doesn't mean everybody agrees with you and obviously your failure to take his job away should tell you something.
But you guys are good at ignoring facts, and making up your own.
You keep porgetting a very slim majority of the vote is NOT equal to the majority of the adult population agreeing...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
We don't like the way he's doing anything because he's a blundering buffoon.. And he's screwed up everything that he's touched so far.
I didn't like Clinton when he was in office either... but at least there were some things he did I could agree with... and he didn't screw everything up he touched... only some things.
And MORE proof Obama and his flunkies are illegally using the IRS for retaliation against those who do not bow and lick the Messiahs feet.
Criticizing ObamaCare | Fox News Video
And that is how he got elected, ignoring facts and making sh*t up.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
And he got elected TWICE when he did that? You really think people are that stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Actaulyl yes... people are that stupid. Look at a lot of the posts on this site... (not this forum). Heck... just look at half the pregnancy questions alone. Not to mention the people seeing things that aren't there in the Paranormal forum.. people that believe in alien abduction and aliens that are probing their butts usually while drunk or high on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Maury Povich and Jerry Springer aren't sham shows... those are real people... they breed and they vote.
Scary... isn't it?
5 million more people believed his stuff than your guys stuff. A FACT, next fact 2014. My side has been dragging your side forward forever. You haven't stopped kicking' and screaming yet, so I doubt you ever will, but don't worry, we will just keep dragging you forward anyway!
>sigh<
Now that's love, and be nice if you guys show some, or at least learn to not be afraid of walking forward. It really ain't that bad, might be fun. :) :D
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