Hello again, clete:
What makes ME a better person than you, is that when I've offended someone, I apologize.. A$$holes like you, don't.
FUK YOU! And then FUK you some more, you piece of sh*t.
excon
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Hello again, clete:
What makes ME a better person than you, is that when I've offended someone, I apologize.. A$$holes like you, don't.
FUK YOU! And then FUK you some more, you piece of sh*t.
excon
Hello again,
Looks like the pres has a victory in Iran, too. I'm sure you wingers will call it a failure...
Bwa, ha ha ha ha.
excon
Ex I don't apologise for telling the truth, If you are offended by the truth then you need to reflect on it
Actually the victory is the Iranian President who didn't use belligerent talkQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
I know you are not naïve . All this boils down to is a replay of the NORK playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, clete:
I know you don't understand the distinction between talking about my opinions, and talking about ME. Maybe that's cause you got no upbringing... I've NEVER talked about you. I talk about your opinions.. But, I don't talk about YOU...Quote:
Ex I don't apologise for telling the truth, If you are offended by the truth then you need to reflect on it
You talk about ME, and you tell me how dumb you think I am. I looked for the particular post where you said it, and I can't find it. I'm sure you'll deny it.. That's another character flaw.
So, I'm DONE with you, you prick!
Excon
They aren't talking nice because they are nice, they have to be nice because those sanction are kicking their arses.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Doesn't matter the games Iran, or the NORKS play does it? They still have to be dealt with one way or another. So does every other crazy SOB in the world. Naïve has nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Its reality.
Tal you've become a neo-con !
victory!! The depiction of the emperor's Syrian chemical weapons “Red Line” policy as victory looked less than glowing in the light of -Assad's demands.
Assad Says Chemical Weapons Disposal Will Take A Year And $1 Billion - Business InsiderQuote:
President Bashar al-Assad said on Wednesday it would cost about $1 billion to get rid of Syria's chemical weapons under a plan agreed to by Russia and the United States last week.
In an interview on the Fox News television channel, Assad said his government would dispose of its chemical weapons arsenal but insisted that his forces were not responsible for a chemical weapons attack outside Damascus on August 21.
Getting rid of his chemical weapons stockpile would likely take about a year, Assad said.
"I think it is a very complicated technically and it needs a lot, a lot of money. Some estimated about a billion for the Syrian stockpile," he said.
Asked whether he would be willing to hand over chemical weapons to the U.S. government, Assad said:
"As I said, it needs a lot of money. It needs about 1 billion. It is very detrimental to the environment. If the American administration is ready to pay this money and take the responsibility of bringing toxic materials to the United States, why don't they do it?"
This is the same pattern that the NORKS and now Iran successfully employ . Stall, negotiate and wait for more concessions .That pattern has worked so well for the NORKs that they have moved their nuke program to detonation tests ,and their rocket program to intercontinental status. Meanwhile they are always on the verge of giving them up.
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I wonder how many al-Shabab jihadists are fighting for the FSA using American weapons ? What a mess. This is what victory looks like .
It's a messy process, but what would Tom do?
Getting rid of the Syrian WMD is progress and I'm sure that no one thought it could be done without cost. Undoubtedly doing it in the middle of a war adds complications. Its fine to talk and negotiate but ultimately someone has to do the work. Who knows how Assad has costed the exercise or whether he seeks to extort money but this is what you get when you get involved. There is always a price but it is a long bow to suggest al shabab is involved in Syria, al qaeda undoubtedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
No it isn't.. they were active in Libya as mercenaries and I'm sure they are being recruited to fight Assad.
US says Kenyan recruited Islamist fighters for Syria: News-africareview.com
Former Defense Secretaries Scold Obama on Syria
Two former defense secretaries who served under President Barack Obama have leveled surprisingly harsh criticism at the administration's handling of the Syrian crisis.
Robert Gates and Leon Panetta appeared jointly at a forum at Southern Methodist University in Dallas on Tuesday, and criticized Obama for asking Congress to authorize military force in response to a chemical weapons attack the United States blames on Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime.
Gates said Obama's proposed attack was a mistake, while Panetta asserted it was a mistake not to go forward with a strike on Syria, The New York Times reported.
Gates, who served under George Bush and remained in office under Obama until July 2011, said: "My bottom line is that I believe that to blow a bunch of stuff up over a couple of days, to underscore or validate a point or a principle, is not a strategy.
"If we launch a military attack, in the eyes of a lot of people we become the villain instead of Assad."
Panetta, who replaced Gates and left office in February, said Obama should have followed through on his pledge to act if Syria used chemical weapons: "When the president of the United States draws a red line, the credibility of this country is dependent on him backing up his word."
Panetta said it was wrong to "subcontract" the decision to Congress, stating that the president "has to retain the responsibility and the authority on this issue."
Gates agreed it was wrong to seek authorization from Congress, because if Congress rebuffed him "it would weaken him. It would weaken us in the eyes of our allies, as well as our adversaries around the world."
Gates also said he is skeptical about Russian President Vladimir Putin's efforts to work out a deal with Syria to remove its chemical weapons, and about Syria's intentions to disarm.
Russia insists that rebels carried out the chemical weapons attack, which the United States says killed more than 1,400 people. But the advocacy group Human Rights Watch said on Tuesday that rocket trajectories detailed in a United Nations report suggested the poison gas shells had been fired from a base belonging to the Republican Guard, run by Assad's brother Maher.
Asked if the West should trust Putin, Gates said: "Are you kidding me?"
They appear to be fairly active in KenyaQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
They are reporting there were Americans among the terrorists, and this is about Somalia.
Kenya terror attack: Blasts shake Nairobi mall as military tries to free hostages | Toronto Star
Westerners said to be among Kenya attackers | The Times of Israel
Doesn't surprise me.. there are a lot of Americans from the region who have "alleged " ties to various jihadist groups . This could be a precursor of things to come here . Soft targets are very vulnerable .
Yes it is, Kenyan troops are operating in Somalia and the terrorists say they will persist while ever the Kenyans fight in Somalia. This isn't about america but if they were to win they would become like the Taliban. The problem is that none of us have control of our Muslim populations. So far what they have done internally is fairly low level after 9/11 and they insist on martyring themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Here is the unconfirmed list of jihadists involved in the attack. The names were released by al-Shaabab :
Sayid N. from Kismayu, Somalia.
Zaki Jama C. from Hargeisa, Somalia
Saad D. from Damascus, Syria
Mohamed B. from Aleppo, Syria
Qasim Said M. Garissa, Kenya
Ismail G. from Helsinki, Finland
Ahmed Nasir S. from London, UK
Mustafa N. from Kansas City, US
Abdishakur Sheikh H. from Maine, US
Abdifatah Osman K. from Minneapolis, US
Ahmad Mohamed I. from Saint Paul, US
Abdikarem Ali M. from Illinois, US
Shafie D. from Tucson, US
Abdirazak M. from Ontario (Canada)
Eliko M. from Dagestan, Russia
Mohammed A. from Svalov, Sweden
Moulid A. from Sweden
The left out Samantha Lewthwaite, from the UK.
I would say the north american continent figures too promenently as a source of fighters in al shabab, the question now remains are these native or recent arrivals, obviously those from Sweden would fit into that category. This proves what I said long ago, Muslims represent a fifth column in western countries, it also demonstrates that al shabab will send foreign fighters on suicide missions
Hello again,
Hmmph... Doesn't seem like we're winning any hearts and minds, does it? In my view, we should do one of two things - bomb them back to the stone age, or leave them alone. Anything in between is asking for trouble.
excon
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