Then they get a third job then... if they got 8 kids they couldn't afford... thats their problem... not mine. Maybe she gets a job other than popping out one kid after another.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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Then they get a third job then... if they got 8 kids they couldn't afford... thats their problem... not mine. Maybe she gets a job other than popping out one kid after another.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Who exactly is "she" in your second sentence?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
The stay at home mom without a paying job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
If "they" get a third job then "she" can't be a stay at home mum without a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Meanwhile, back to the OP. The emperor has delayed yet another feature of Obamacare, the oh so important feature of capping out of pocket expenses.
I thought Obamacare was supposed to bail us out...Quote:
First, there was the delay of Obamacare’s Medicare cuts until after the election. Then there was the delay of the law’s employer mandate. Then there was the announcement, buried in the Federal Register, that the administration would delay enforcement of a number of key eligibility requirements for the law’s health insurance subsidies, relying on the “honor system” instead. Now comes word that another costly provision of the health law—its caps on out-of-pocket insurance costs—will be delayed for one more year.
According to the Congressional Research Service, as of November 2011, the Obama administration had missed as many as one-third of the deadlines, specified by law, under the Affordable Care Act. Here are the details on the latest one.
Obamacare contains a blizzard of mandates and regulations that will make health insurance more costly. One of the most significant is its caps on out-of-pocket insurance costs, such as co-pays and deductibles. Section 2707(b) of the Public Health Service Act, as added by Obamacare, requires that “a group health plan and a health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage may not establish lifetime limits on the dollar value of benefits for the any participant or beneficiary.” Annual limits on cost-sharing are specified by Section 1302(c) of the Affordable Care Act; in addition, starting in 2014, deductibles are limited to $2,000 per year for individual plans, and $4,000 per year for family plans.
Hello again, Steve:
If, like you, I believed that, in this great country of ours, nobody has ever gone without being treated for their ills, or ever would be, then I'd be squealing just like you are.
But, I don't believe that.
excon
I keep posting things like this hoping some day certain among us might see the parallels between their rants and the administration they defend.
Hello again, Steve:
Ok, what's YOUR plan? If it's to go back to what we had, as flawed as Obamacare is, it's BETTER than that.
excon
Scrap it all and start over.
Hello again, Steve:
If we did, would you STILL say that we don't need it because, in THIS great land, EVERYBODY gets treated? And, if you WOULD say that, then once it's scrapped, the "start over" crap you're spewing, isn't something you intend to do, is it?Quote:
Scrap it all and start over.
Excon
No it would not be feasible or advisable to scrap it all. But your question has been answered many times.
Hello again, Steve:What would you keep, and how would you pay for it?Quote:
No it would not be feasible or advisable to scrap it all.
Excon
I'd keep it private.
Hello again, Steve:
In other words what we had PRE Obamacare, and you wouldn't keep ANYTHING in the ACA...Quote:
I'd keep it private.
Excon
Oh yeah, I'd scrap Zerocare completely and keep health care private. I don't trust our federal government and thus far they've proven to be mostly incompetent at most everything, including and especially the ACA.
If your goal is better, affordable health care for everyone let's work together. But that isn't your goal, you want single payer and nothing less so what's to discuss? In the meantime we've been sold a bill of goods, a train wreck that was designed to fail and so far the only ones being left in the lurch here are the consumers.
You have had your chance over the years and decades to make things better, but you didn't. Not my fault you righties prefer to be exploited by the inure industry but you can if you want to, just keep what you got and be happy.
Oh that's right, they till kept jacking the price up before Obama Care, and during. What, are you afraid to tell the insurance companies enough already? Sure you are.
Things were better before Al Gore dreamed up HMO's. That's when all the middlemen started the money grab that has nothing to do with delivering health care to the pattient. And inflates the costs of everything.
Before that costs were lower because the patient paid the doctor... there wasn't 50 other people expecting their cut .
Time for an Obamacare experiment. Go to your favorite search engine and search for health insurance exchanges. Let me know which ones aren't legit.
The ones that I have looked up are spin offs of the major regional/local carriers from what I have seen. I have only checked Oregon, Utah, California, New York, and of course Texas.
Even the so called independent plans are underwritten by a larger insurance GROUP.
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