Ask Me Help Desk

Ask Me Help Desk (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forum.php)
-   Current Events (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=486)
-   -   Trayvon II (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=646411)

  • Jul 22, 2013, 10:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    Meanwhile the ACLU rather quickly walked back its initial response to the verdict. As much as they wanted to make this about blacks not being able to get justice their previous position on double jeopardy got in the way.

    It went from this:

    Quote:

    “Last night’s verdict casts serious doubt on whether the legal system truly provides equal protection of the laws to everyone regardless of race or ethnicity,” ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero said in a statement on July 14, the day after the Florida jury’s verdict. “This case reminds us that It is imperative that the Department of Justice thoroughly examine whether the Martin shooting was a federal civil rights violation or hate crime.”
    To this:

    Quote:

    That call came even though the ACLU’s long-standing policy, restored in 1993 after the King debate, explicitly rejects such an option. “There should be no exception to double jeopardy principles simply because the same offense may be prosecuted by two different sovereigns,” the policy says.

    Romero’s statement stirred concern among some civil libertarians that in a rush to join the chorus of outrage over the Zimmerman verdict, the group had turned its back on the policy it settled on two decades ago.

    In an apparent attempt to stem the controversy, a top ACLU official wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder on Thursday to make clear that the group does not favor a second prosecution of Zimmerman in federal court.

    “We are writing to clearly state the ACLU’s position on whether or not the Department of Justice (DOJ) should consider bringing federal civil rights or hate crimes charges as a result of the state court acquittal in the George Zimmerman case,” Laura Murphy, director of the ACLU’s Washington office, wrote.

    “The ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction. A jury found Zimmerman not guilty, and that should be the end of the criminal case,” she wrote.

    Read more: For the ACLU, George Zimmerman case is awkward déjà vu - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com
    Glad to see them come to their senses.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 10:36 AM
    smoothy
    Don't hold your breath... its not going to last long... any sort of sense (common or otherwise) is something that is in very short supply at the ACLU.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 11:13 AM
    speechlesstx
    You just can't make this up, although judging by the comments on the article that's exactly what the detractors believe...

    Quote:

    George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue

    George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.

    Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of a family of four -- two parents and two children -- trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. At approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

    The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

    By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

    Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
    Come on admit it, you believe it was staged.

    Meanwhile, even his parents are in hiding because of allegedly receiving "an enormous amount of death threats."

    Zimmerman's Parents in Hiding from 'Enormous Amount of Death Threats': ABC News Exclusive

    Didn't I say something about more than one family being affected by all this?
  • Jul 22, 2013, 11:23 AM
    smoothy
    You'd only see Trayvons homies helping at an accident if it was an armoured car that rolled and they would have been picking up the money because of the unsightly litter out of the spirit of enviromentalizm..
  • Jul 22, 2013, 12:50 PM
    JudyKayTee
    "Come on admit it, you believe it was staged. "

    Either that or George Zimmerman has a marvelous sense of timing - in many ways.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 01:10 PM
    speechlesstx
    I can't think of why a mom and dad would intentionally roll their SUV so Zimmerman could rescue them.

    Quote:

    On Wednesday, July 17 at about 5:45 PM Sanford Police responded to a single car accident in the area of I- 4 and State Road 46 in Sanford. A blue Ford Explorer SUV traveled off the road and rolled over. There were four occupants inside the vehicle, two parents and two children. An eyewitness to the accident told Breitbart News the SUV lost control in front of the witness's car. The SUV later caught fire.

    The deputy reported, when he arrived on the scene that one of the two men helping the family was George Zimmerman. According to Sanford Police Zimmerman had a fire extinguisher with him. The eyewitness told Breitbart News he helped assist the family out of the vehicle and put out the fire with the extinguisher.

    "Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash, which was why he was not referenced in the police report," a Sanford Police spokeswoman told Breitbart News. "He left after making contact with the deputy. There were no reports of injuries of any of the vehicle's occupants," she said.

    An eyewitness to the accident told Breitbart News that people on the scene recognized Zimmerman and thanked him for his help before he left.

    Zimmerman's location has been unknown since he was found "not guilty" of second degree murder and manslaughter of Trayvon Martin recently.
    Must be the timing. But then, it's entirely in line with his past history unlike the twisted version we hear about. Take this for example:

    Quote:

    In this narrative, even Zimmerman’s concern for a black child—a 2011 call to report a young African-American boy walking unsupervised on a busy street, on which the police record notes, “compl[ainant] concerned for well-being”—has been twisted into crazed racism. Writing on the website of The New Republic, Stanford University law professor Richard Thompson Ford describes Zimmerman as “an edgy basket case” who called 911 about “the suspicious activities of a seven year old black boy.” This slander turns up in other left-of-center sources, such as ThinkProgress.org.

    Read more: How the Media Has Distorted a Tragedy | RealClearPolitics
    Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter
  • Jul 22, 2013, 01:35 PM
    JudyKayTee
    "I can't think of why a mom and dad would intentionally roll their SUV so Zimmerman could rescue them."

    I'll believe it when I see the Police Report. Note that the Police are repeating what the eye witness said: "The eyewitness told Breitbart News he helped assist the family out of the vehicle and put out the fire with the extinguisher." I've had witnesses think Elvis helped them out of the car.

    Maybe I'll just follow Zimmerman around with a camera and tape recorder and give up the rest of my business.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 02:51 PM
    speechlesstx
    Pretty elaborate hoax and apparently the Seminole County Sheriff's office is in on it.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 02:55 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    "I can't think of why a mom and dad would intentionally roll their SUV so Zimmerman could rescue them."

    I'll believe it when I see the Police Report. Note that the Police are repeating what the eye witness said: "The eyewitness told Breitbart News he helped assist the family out of the vehicle and put out the fire with the extinguisher." I've had witnesses think Elvis helped them out of the car.

    Maybe I'll just follow Zimmerman around with a camera and tape recorder and give up the rest of my business.

    From what was stated this makes me believe he was at least on the scene.

    "Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash, which was why he was not referenced in the police report," a Sanford Police spokeswoman told Breitbart News. "He left after making contact with the deputy. There were no reports of injuries of any of the vehicle's occupants," she said.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 05:14 PM
    paraclete
    So this Zimmerman character has a heart, is a good citizen, what ever, boring
  • Jul 22, 2013, 05:17 PM
    speechlesstx
    It goes against the false narrative that condemned him.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 05:29 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It goes against the false narrative that condemned him.

    But he wasn't condemned he was acquitted, in other words he was just a good citizen doing what good citizens and good republicans do, seeking out offenders and evil dooooers just like Superman
  • Jul 22, 2013, 06:58 PM
    smoothy
    AFTERBURNER w/ BILL WHITTLE: The Lynching - YouTube

    Goes into and shows all the evidence the lefty press refused to print, all of which is publicly accessible... that the brain damaged naysayers that think Trayvon is destined to become the next Saint.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 07:22 PM
    paraclete
    Hey neither Trayvon or Zimmerman were saints just in the wrong place at the wrong time
  • Jul 22, 2013, 07:26 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Hey neither Trayvon or Zimmerman were saints just in the wrong place at the wrong time

    Treyvon is responsible for this because HE started it... Zimmerman had the right to defend himself after that. Evidence proved it.. the Court decided it. End of story.

    Zimmerman has a track record of helping people... Treyvon has a track record of crime and helping no one but himself.

    The Jury spoke...
  • Jul 22, 2013, 07:31 PM
    paraclete
    Zimmerman helped Trayvon to avoid a life of crime
  • Jul 22, 2013, 07:32 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Zimmerman helped Trayvon to avoid a life of crime

    I look at it like he is saving an unknown number of future victims of Treyvons crimes.
  • Jul 22, 2013, 07:40 PM
    paraclete
    Yes it all turned out well in the end and Zimmerman goes on his helping way
  • Jul 23, 2013, 04:49 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    So this Zimmerman character has a heart, is a good citizen, what ever, boring

    Or he could've stayed in his car and not do anything until the police showed up...
  • Jul 23, 2013, 04:56 AM
    smoothy
    Except Zimmerman was a resident there... and.had the right to walk around... and the fact 911 call center operators aren't the police or agents of the court and have no legal authority to demand anyone do anything... all they can do is suggest.

  • All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:07 AM.