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  • Dec 30, 2013, 12:06 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    SCOTUS hasn't ruled on all aspects .They haven't as an example ruled on the 14th Amendment equal protection clause violations of the emperor's waivers .
    They haven't ruled on all the 1st amendment religious freedom violations .They haven't ruled on the 2nd amendment violations of a defacto back door gun registry by doctors . They haven't ruled on the
    4th and 5th amendment violations of the Fed Government having access to your bank accounts to make sure that you are paying your Obamacare premiums .They haven't ruled on the 8th amendment violation of excess fines. And I'm sure there's more if I think hard enough. Since there is this stupid 'standing' rule ;no cases can be heard until there is an injured person who has standing to bring a case. That means the law has to be enacted before many of the cases coming are filed .
    let me see if I get this right, it's legal until it's not, so constitutional rights exist only if the SCOTUS says so, I would have expected it was encumbrent upon legislators and the POTUS to avoid contravening the constitution in the first place
  • Dec 30, 2013, 03:10 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I would have expected it was encumbrent upon legislators and the POTUS to avoid contravening the constitution in the first place
    Indeed .
  • Dec 30, 2013, 05:54 AM
    tomder55
    Apparently insurance provided to the Federal work force may not comply with the min. Obamacare standards.
    Quote:

    The Obama administration has told Vista volunteers and other AmeriCorps workers that their government-provided health coverage does not measure up to the standards of the new health care law, and that they may be subject to financial penalties unless they obtain insurance elsewhere.

    The notice has surprised and worried workers in AmeriCorps, the federal community service program that is often described as a domestic version of the Peace Corps.

    Mary Strasser, the director of AmeriCorps’ Vista program, described the changes in a bulletin to members on Dec. 16.

    The coverage provided by the agency — the AmeriCorps Health Care Benefits Plan — “does not satisfy the individual responsibility requirement of the Affordable Care Act,” which takes effect on Jan. 1, Ms. Strasser said. Accordingly, she said, Vista members may be required to pay a tax penalty if they do not have other coverage and do not receive an exemption.

    The impact on community service workers is another unanticipated consequence of the health care law, which is making coverage available at little or no cost to many uninsured people but disrupting coverage for others who already had it.
    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/27...ails-test.html
  • Dec 30, 2013, 08:18 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    AmeriCorps members say their existing coverage, which pays for doctors' services, hospital care and prescription drugs, meets most of their needs. However, according to the members' handbook, “AmeriCorps does not provide benefits for any diagnosis that is considered a pre-existing condition,” and the coverage for preventive care appears to be less than the law requires.

    Sarah L. Sklaw, a 22-year-old Vista member from New York City, said: “I really support the Affordable Care Act, and I don't want to be a naysayer. But it was surprising and frustrating to be told that our health coverage would not meet the law's standards, especially because the Corporation for National and Community Service told us at orientation in August that we did not need to worry about the issue.”

    Other AmeriCorps members said they occasionally needed more extensive coverage to pay for treatment of pre-existing conditions or injuries requiring specialty care, and they noted that some members did dangerous work, such as fighting wildfires or building trails on steep mountains.
    Equal application and treatment under the law. You saying they shouldn't be treated equally? Or adequately covered just because they volunteer? Or all of us shouldn't have to make adjustments for a better quality product from insurance companies?

    The shame is the federal government had an inadequate program in the first place for so long.
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:33 AM
    tomder55
    don't worry .I smell another emperor exemption .
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:37 AM
    talaniman
    Or extension since the agency never bothered to make any plans to change what they were doing.
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:40 AM
    speechlesstx
    In other words, still finding out what's in obamacare because the emperor keeps changing it to cover his a$$.
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:55 AM
    talaniman
    Considering the haphazard way republicans implement their voting laws, and abortion restrictions there is little room to validate your own one way criticism.
  • Jan 1, 2014, 03:34 AM
    tomder55
    Justice Sonia Sotomayor has ordered a delay in the implementing of the birth control mandate . Sotomayor acted on a request for an emergency stay from the Little Sisters of the Poor Home for the Aged.
  • Jan 1, 2014, 06:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    Naturally the tone deaf administration still defends the mandate as only Democrats can.

    "The president believes that no one, including the government or for-profit corporations, should be able to dictate those decisions to women,” Jay Carney, the White House press secretary, said last month.

    Aren't they dictating choices to these nuns? Aren't they women, too?
  • Jan 1, 2014, 08:13 AM
    talaniman
    The administration has until Friday to respond. Let it go to court.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 07:34 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Four states are responsible for ONE FOURTH of America's uninsured. Can you guess which ones? I'll bet you can.

    The governors of Texas, Florida, South Carolina and Louisiana are rejecting Obamacare saying their uninsured don't need any help. These stated combined, add up to one fourth of the nations uninsured.

    I suppose there ARE good reasons why these governors did this. Can you relate some?

    excon
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:18 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Four states are responsible for ONE FOURTH of America's uninsured. Can you guess which ones? I'll bet you can.

    The governors of Texas, Florida, South Carolina and Louisiana are rejecting Obamacare saying their uninsured don't need any help. These stated combined, add up to one fourth of the nations uninsured.

    I suppose there ARE good reasons why these governors did this. Can you relate some?

    excon

    I take issue with the assertion that they are "saying their uninsured don't need any help." That's a bullsh*t argument if I ever saw one.

    P.S. I see no supporting evidence either, just numbers pulled from their a$$ as far as I know.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:20 AM
    speechlesstx
    Removed due to site bugs. Kind of like healthcare.gov.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:24 AM
    talaniman
    Ex asked for information not rock throwing. So tell him what your state does for uninsured poor people.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    ex was throwing the rocks, if you don't want them thrown back don't start off with a bullsh*t unsupported, trap question.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 09:17 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Upworthy is a website for viral content started in March 2012 by Eli Pariser, the former executive director of MoveOn, and Peter Koechley, the former managing editor of The Onion. One of Facebook's co-founders, Chris Hughes, was an early investor. It is dedicated to publicizing progressive narratives
    Upworthy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Jan 2, 2014, 09:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    In other words just so much progressive propaganda, aka bullsh*t.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 10:19 AM
    tomder55
    the article had the look of Onion content .
  • Jan 2, 2014, 11:19 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    So, right wing rags like the Free Beacon is gospel, whereas a left leaner is not to be taken seriously... I got it. I really understand.

    I'm STILL blown away that you compared that blog to the NY Times.

    excon

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