Um, where did I literally call someone stupid? And if you have an issue with tones there are others with much worse tones than mine so excuse me if I don't take you seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
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Um, where did I literally call someone stupid? And if you have an issue with tones there are others with much worse tones than mine so excuse me if I don't take you seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Here, I made it bold for you.Quote:
The implication is perfectly clear to anyone with half a brain. Must be why you didn't get it.
I didn't read the entire thread, too much back and forth posturing "I'm right, you're wrong, I'll bully you and talk down to you because you don't agree with me" for my liking. Not my cup of tea. But sadly I do see this thread pop up because there's so much traffic on it. So today I took a look.
So let me explain what I posted to you. Saying that your point of view is clear to anyone with half a brain (people with half a brain aren't that smart, clearly), and then saying that that's why the poster didn't get your point of view, clearly says "You don't even have half a brain". Surely you understand that you called that person stupid. You didn't use the actual word, but hey, that's semantics.
Saying that there are people that act worse, or post worse than what you posted, what does that matter? So you bully, and belittle, but because there are others that are worse, that makes it okay?
You don't have to take me seriously, no problem, I didn't post to join the fight, I posted to point out that acting like a bunch of bullies in a school yard, calling each other names, doesn't prove your point. It only proves that you're not willing to listen to anyone other than people with your point of view. It also proves that when you don't get your way, you name call and try to belittle people. That's not the way to get people to respect your point of view.
So stop acting like a bunch of children, and start acting like the grownups you purport to be.
Show that you are actually willing to listen by reading my post and accepting your part in all of the bullying going on. If you all can't put on your big boy pants and big girl panties, listen to each other with respect, than why even bother? You accomplish nothing by going at each others throats because your views differ and you're not willing to listen to any point of view that doesn't mesh with your own.
In other words, you all need to grow up.
The irony of you not understanding the meaning of "literally" while lecturing me on not listening to the point of view of those who expect me to believe insurance companies, who are only concerned about profit, are selling premium plans for a third of the cost of "junk" is breathtaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
I am not the one implying on a daily basis the other side is stupid. You really need to pay more attention to the BS I'm fed before lecturing me.
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You really need to pay more attention to the BS I'm fed before lecturing me.
Read my post again. I was "lecturing" all of you.Quote:
you all need to grow up.
I'm open and listening, will you go back and see the bullsh*t we deal with before lecturing any of us?
Hey I wasn't even here don't include me in all
Alty, it's probably best that you stay out of this thread. ;)
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes, well I guess the BS is a problem everyone has to put up with from time to time. After all this is largely a political forum. It's not a mathematics or physics forum.
You mean BS like this? The whole obamacare rollout disaster is apparently due to Republican sabotage.
The Obamacare sabotage campaign - Todd S. Purdum - POLITICO.com
That's right, the dysfunctional website, sticker shock and even the muddled white house message is Republican's fault.
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes, that would be an example. Not to difficult to find it on both sides of politics. Isn't that how your political system works?
I wouldn't confine that to just us my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I didn't
I'm just sayin'...
The propaganda wing of the regime has been mobilized to have a full frontal recruitment drive to get people signed up during the coming holidays
. It's time to have the talk
They need to get 2.7 million invincibles signed up to pay for all those expanded Medicaid types that have dominated the Obamacare market so far.
Yes, that's exactly what's on our minds for the holidays. Sebelius received an early Christmas gift from Sen. Brian Kelsey...Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
https://mobile.twitter.com/memphisda...523392/photo/1
What they didn't show in the video is the kid calling his parents nuts. He said for the $600/per month I can get me a Tesla !!
I remember the roll out of Medicare part D and it was a disaster, but look at it now, I can tell you it works and getting better. Many seniors though had to purchase a supplemental policy for prescription drugs and the donut hole was closed. But lets not forget before online pharmacy's became available, seniors ran to Canada by the busloads.
It's been widely reported and documented that even though democrats opposed the new law tooth and nail, once it became law it was all hands on deck to make it work. There were no shutdowns over it, or soaring gloom and doom rhetoric. Prices came down, delivery was improved.
Yeah America can make things work. It's a proven FACT, but the call for all hands on deck is being ignored by some that have forgotten where the true power of America is working together, for some insane notion that the few can dominate the many. That's always a recipe for disaster.
That's the way I see the sticker shock of a few, against the healthcare needs of the many.
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello again,
Yaaaawwwwnnn... The website WILL be fixed, and JILLIONS of people will enroll.
Or not.
The tipping point is whether the site actually GETS fixed IN TIME. Fact IS, it's BEYOND time, and every day the website doesn't work, the prospects for Obamacare, AND the Democratic party, grow DIMMER and DIMMER.
I HOPE they fix it, because I don't want "severe" conservatives like Ted Cruz running my country... But, I'm NOT sure they will.
excon
Yep, Dems have to own this. But I thought it was Romney who was severely conservative.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
They should just 'deem' it fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
There's a part of the book 'Atlas Shrugged', when a politician who was delayed in his travels, demands that a coal burning train travel through an 8 mile tunnel. He deemed the job done. Predictably the tunnel filled with smoke ,and 300 passengers asphyxiated.
Hello again, Steve:
Even though you THINK we "anointed" Obama, Ted Cruz's FATHER actually DID anoint his son.I suspect HIS anointment pleases you. Well, it scares the SH*T outta me.Quote:
excon
Cruz and Paul do have old man problems. I wonder if the press will ignore them like they ignored the emperor's relationship with Rev Wright or his childhood mentor Frank Marshall Davis .
Yaaaawwwwnnn, here we go this dominionist conspiracy again.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
So, you think Obama WAS influenced by his pastor, but you DON'T think Ted was influenced by his FATHER...Quote:
here we go this dominionist conspiracy again.
Okee doakee.
excon
I said nothing of the sort, I'm saying this dominionist conspiracy is bunk. You need not worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
What's the chance of a religious right wing conservative being president? NONE if any. That doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm sure there are many that would gladly like the country to be ruled by the theocrats strictly based on the bible.
No church should have that kind of power.
That was the fear with Bush, I must have missed the theocracy he established. I'm betting theocracywatch is repurposing for the Cruz theocracy. Do you guys even listen to yourselves? You sound awfully with this nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
No worse than you guys trying to destroy your own government.
That's almost as silly a conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
That's the reality of your words and actions, but you will fail to destroy this nation!
Lol, you don't need us to help destroy this nation. You're doing a damn fine job on your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I'm just cooperating in letting the results speak for themselves...
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Sticker shock often follows insurance cancellation
MIAMI (AP) — Dean Griffin liked the health insurance he purchased for himself and his wife three years ago and thought he'd be able to keep the plan even after the federal Affordable Care Act took effect.
But the 64-year-old recently received a letter notifying him the plan was being canceled because it didn't cover certain benefits required under the law.The Griffins, who live near Philadelphia on the Delaware border, pay $770 monthly for their soon-to-be-terminated health care plan with a $2,500 deductible. The cheapest plan they found on their state insurance exchange was a so-called bronze plan charging a $1,275 monthly premium with deductibles totaling $12,700. It covers only providers in Pennsylvania, so the couple wouldn't be able to see the doctors in Delaware whom they've used for more than a decade.
"We're buying insurance that we will never use and can't possibly ever benefit from. We're basically passing on a benefit to other people who are not otherwise able to buy basic insurance," said Griffin, who is retired from running an information technology company.
The Griffins are among millions of people nationwide who buy individual insurance policies and are receiving notices that those policies are being discontinued because they don't meet the higher benefit requirements of the new law.
They can buy different policies directly from insurers for 2014 or sign up for plans on state insurance exchanges. While lower-income people could see lower costs because of government subsidies, many in the middle class may get rude awakenings when they access the websites and realize they'll have to pay significantly more.
Those not eligible for subsidies generally receive more comprehensive coverage than they had under their soon-to-be-canceled policies, but they'll have to pay a lot more.
Because of the higher cost, the Griffins are considering paying the federal penalty — about $100 or 1 percent of income next year — rather than buying health insurance. They say they are healthy and don't typically run up large health care costs. Dean Griffin said that will be cheaper because it's unlikely they will get past the nearly $13,000 deductible for the coverage to kick in.
Your anecdotes never have enough data to make reasonable decisions because in fact all you want is to portray the downside of sticker shock.
I still ask if you have junk insurance or a bare bones policy and NEVER use it, how do you know you like it? In the past many who liked their insurance didn't like it when they had to use it, and I am sure a 64 year old healthy guy or woman would not like to have cancer screenings or prostate exams NOT covered by the insurance they paid for and liked so well.
I think you are mistaken. We aren't destroying this nation, your leader is.Quote:
That's the reality of your words and actions, but you will fail to destroy this nation!
He is our president duly elected AND re-elected under the law whether you like him or not and but one branch of government and I point out the branch you wingers control is the only one that's shut down the government because they didn't have the votes to get what they wanted.
We would have been destroyed if republicans of good sense had not stepped in and ended the insane path YOU guys tried to force us on.
Getting a little defensive now, aren't you? If the Commander in Chief, cough cough, were in the right, you wouldn't have to scream at us, now would you?Quote:
He is our president duly elected AND re-elected under the law whether you like him or not and but one branch of government and I point out the branch you wingers control is the only one that's shut down the government because they didn't have the votes to get what they wanted.
We would have been destroyed if republicans of good sense had not stepped in and ended the insane path YOU guys tried to force us on.
Force on us? Obamacare was forced on us. It will be one of the biggest subsidy programs in existance. Millions of people that never wanted a government hand out are now forced to take it. Yeah your side is doing a great job of ignoring the truth in favor of destruction. We can't afford this yet your side keeps pushing it through. It is a train wreck and your side wants to see it happen. It didnt work for the Soviets nor the Nazi's. Do you really think your side is any different?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Lay off the koolade.
Hello again, dad:
Forced??? Is THAT what you call democracy in action???? Let's see.Quote:
Force on us? Obamacare was forced on us.
Lay off the koolade.
If I were to say that Texas, for example, is FORCING abortion clinics to close, I'll betcha you'd call THAT democracy in action, wouldn't you?? I'll bet you'd tell the sniveling libs that if they DON'T like it, WIN some elections.
Given those irrefutable facts, WHO'S the one drinking koolaid?
excon
Come off it, the US you refer to are the ones who where OUT VOTED. That's the way America works, by votes. Win a few elections and get your way. That's how it works.
What's in YOUR koolade?
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