It appears to be a done deal, with the blessing of Sunni Clerics and the Coptic church.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
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It appears to be a done deal, with the blessing of Sunni Clerics and the Coptic church.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Go right ahead and get your state and local gvt to fund it... oh yeah that's right.. you think the Federal Government is responsible for all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Yes another great day for democracy with nazi islamists removed and the voice of the people heardQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Egypt's Atypical Military Coup | StratforQuote:
There are no alternatives to the Muslim Brotherhood because the opposition is a large protest movement without any coherent core. However, it is notable that the impetus for these protests was the liberal and secular opposition, who for the first time demonstrated an ability to establish a united front. It is unclear whether the opposition will coalesce and whether Tamarod's political wing, June 30 Front, represents a political alternative to the Brotherhood's established social networks in the country. Mohammed ElBaradei's appointment as the negotiator for much of the opposition could be a first step toward a political entity besides the Brotherhood that could wield civilian power.
I have a feeling that the Brotherhood will not submit quietly . I think we are on the road back to the future ,where the military will sanction the civilian leadership ,and the president will serve as the defacto Pharaoh at the pleasure of the military .
Actually private industry and state and federal governments should be in on the fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The eqyptians are not noted for their bravery under fire. I think what will happen is an unfair constituition will be trashed and a little desert despot has been deposed for good. Muslim democracy is different, the people vote in many ways but you ignore the voice of the people at your perilQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You know I am no fan of Morsi or the Brotherhood . It is never a good sign when a military coup removes the 1st ever democratically elected government. I kind of doubt new democratic elections will happen any time soon. And even if it does ,the precedent has been set that any time the "people " take to the street ,the elected government will be deposed by the military . There is a recipe for stability .
Nor will any installed technocrat be able to solve the economic difficulties .
This is not the 1st time the military has intervened in Egypt . Typical m.o. is to try to unite the nation by blaming Jews and provoking war with Israel .
Whatever happens I'm sure we're deeply concerned and will continue leading from behind.
Look these things happen. It happened a couple of times in the Philippines and now in Eqypt. It isn't necessarily a bad thing after all your own democratic processes had some rocky roads way back when.
I live in a place where the leader can be changed at the whim of a few politicians, I think this is a fairer process but military intervention shouldn't be necessary. It just demonstrates how short on leadership they are over there
The emperor has ordered a review of our aid to Egypt. He's about a year late by my estimation.
Yes ours did. But this reminds me more of the Thermidorian Reaction that preceded the Napoleon rise to dictatorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
You think they will execute the former appointees of Morisi and Morisi himself? Most are in custody now. Or will the Muslim Brotherhood retaliate against the new government, or the military? I think the military will act with putting in place civilians to run not just the government but necessary day to day civilian services.
Morisi was building an Islamic theocracy and consolidating power to the few that the many had deep objections to because they were effectively excluded from power sharing and decision making.
Nahh that wasn't the issue. Morsi let the economy go into crapperQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
On all these questions the answer is that it is a definite possibility . Another possibility is that the Brotherhood would not officially react ;but let the heavy lift reaction come from the Salafists .Quote:
You think they will execute the former appointees of Morisi and Morisi himself? Most are in custody now. Or will the Muslim Brotherhood retaliate against the new government, or the military?
Of course they will . That is their m.o. appoint a Pharaoh that answers to the military chain of command.Quote:
I think the military will act with putting in place civilians to run not just the government but necessary day to day civilian services.
Well hindsight is marvellous egypt got the result they wanted which is basically that someone listens, a lesson for islamists who listen to no one
It's come to this... and nothing will come of it because no conservative was involved.
Yes indeed, "toxic little queen" obviously is not homophobic and bigoted, particularly when coupled with "I'll put my foot up your f***ing a**, George Stark, but I'm sure you'd dig it too much."Quote:
Alec Badlwin apologized to GLAAD for his latest Twitter rant that some interpreted as homophobic.
"My ill-advised attack on George Stark of the Daily Mail has absolutely nothing to do with issues of anyone's sexual orientation," he wrote in a letter to GLAAD. "My anger was directed at Mr. Stark for blatantly lying and disseminating libelous information about my wife and her conduct at our friend's funeral service."
The letter, which was posted on the New York City-based lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights group, also included, "I would not advocate violence against someone for being gay and I hope that my friends at GLAAD and the gay community understand that my attack on Mr. Stark in no way was the result of homophobia."
GLAAD accepted the actor's apology stating that he has a history of supporting the LGBT population and working towards the community's equality.
Baldwin's rant came after the Daily Mail journalist accused his wife Hilaria Thomas Baldwin of tweeting during actor James Gandolfini's funeral on Thursday. The journalist said that Baldwin's wife was tweeting about her wedding plans.
The 55-year-old defended his wife by saying that she left her phone in the car and went on to call Stark a "toxic little queen."
His wife also spoke on her husband's behalf and explained that his actions were in no way a target against the LGBT community.
"Almost all of my best friends are gay... I would have NEVER married a homophobic man. Hear my husband out on his meaning of the word 'queen,'" she wrote on her Twitter on Friday.
She continued the conversation on Saturday and tweeted, "It wasn't twitter's fault - it was poor journalism & libel. "Reporters" write untrue articles w no repercussions."
However, this wouldn't be the first time that the actor attacked a journalist. In 2012, the actor was accused of punching a photographer from The New York Daily News for trying to photograph the couple after obtaining their marriage license.
But that's OK, conservatives are leading the way against his homophobic rant (filth and foul and foul and filth warning).
Good Luck. :)
Such is the islamic way and there are already protests and clashes The Muslim Brotherhood will not go quietly into the night but Egypt has seen enough of islamic theocracy in other places to know they don't want itQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
In other words, you agree homophobia only counts when perpetrated by conservatives?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
No just good luck, nothing more.
Taking his cue from our fearless emperor ,and MIA Evita , Sec State JF Kerry was yachting Wednesday afternoon as the Egyptian crisis unfolded .
John Kerry on his boat during Egypt upheaval, State Dept. concedes - CBS News
The White House denied it before they confirmed it .
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