I was going to add no sex until marriage and that can happen only after the successful completion of an intensive 10-week training program, but figured that wouldn't go over well.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
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I was going to add no sex until marriage and that can happen only after the successful completion of an intensive 10-week training program, but figured that wouldn't go over well.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
No sex police please. You don't need a 10 week intensive training program to avoid sex or to participate in it. Nor is such a program desirable before marriage. What is needed is to go beyond mechanical sex education, which does nothing more than encourage experimentation and deal with moral and ethical matters so that both understand that personal gratification has very undesirable outcomes outside of a long term relationship. In other words less focus on biology and more focus on the importance of personal integrity and self disciplineQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Hmmm, like good sex ed and mentoring and modeling by parents?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Less sex ed and more mentoring and modelling by all authority figures. It goes beyond the family, everything in western society is allowed to drag morals down to the lowest denominator. There should be greater censorship of media in all forms but particularly film to reduce presentation of casual sex for entertainment and profiteering. The whole society fails to deal with prostitution, deviance and depravity, with pornography and moral issues.
More sex ed, for parents.
Now with cable TV, any time of day there is swearing (*beep*) and references to sex even in family sitcoms. That used to be only in the late evening, if then.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
As I said, more censorship of mediaQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I guess half the marriages ending in divorce and parents return to working and dating has nothing to do with the morality thing.
Oh yes, the horror of having to take responsibility for the risk you took. Anything for an excuse. That should make one 'shudder.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie95
Hey! I have the answer to that. Simple! DON'T GET MARRIED!Quote:
I guess half the marriages ending in divorce
My roomie, companion and best friend, Teresa Marie, and I have been hooked up for over 18 years and we love each other just as much now as when we first hooked up. In fact,
More!
One of my proudest boasts is that in all the years we've been together we have NEVER had a screaming fight where one of us said, " That's it! I'm done!"
So there's the secret, Hey! Works for us. Just thought I'd share. Tom
Buddy wait till 25 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by speedball1
Divorce is part of the morality thing, people not will to go through with the commitment they made, they model this for children and what do you get, a society that can't make commitment, and when did this get worse, right about the time women were liberated to abort their babiesQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Contracepetives, and proper sex education on how to use them both man, and women, is the responsible way to explore, and experiment. This isn't 1960.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Abortion has been in practice for thousands of years, its just not something that was just invented.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
For the third time now, what is "proper" education? But thanks for repeating my response to her that using contraceptives is a choice. It's still a risk, so accept responsibility for taking that risk - don't punish the natural result, the child.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
And then it gets better?Quote:
Buddy wait till 25 years
No it is something that recently became legalQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Yeah buddy they leaveQuote:
Originally Posted by speedball1
Perhaps yours but not mine. We're joined at the hip. You should be sop fortunate, everybody should! Regards, TomQuote:
yeah buddy they leave
Guess you missed it,Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Of course it helps to have insurance and most educated females do, even so, its especially important for financially challenged females to know where to go. The only problem is you religious types keep pushing for laws that make that really hard and don't seem to be interested in making sure a female is properly educated to protect herself.Quote:
The consequences of unprotected sex, and the procedure to not get pregnant. How/when to use an HPT, and having a family doctor for regular check ups, and have procedures available to prevent pregnancy, not just with contraceptives.*
*See my posts about a routine D&C.
Of course your position of responsibility doesn't cover a guy stepping up, and
Creates a helluva dilemma for females that do it your way, let things take a natural course. The problem with that is when they don't fit into YOUR idea of proper behavior, you make things hard by denying love a support.
On one hand you make them fit your mold, but on the other hand you take away choice and options. In reality this only happens when females are dependent and have no resources, or support, and then both mother and child suffers while you self righteously remove logical choices for unrealistic ones.
Even the ones who do the right things by YOUR standards are subject to the same hardships after a divorce. I get you lobby for unborn children, a noble endeavor, but unless YOU take responsibility for YOUR positions, by giving that love and support, you should mind your own business and take care of your own.
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