Ask Me Help Desk - Mosque at Ground Zero

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No, I was just born and raised there (in the hills with the hillbillies, spitting out watermelon seeds and eating fried chicken with flour weevils on it). I'm a Tar Heel.

This Tar Heel happens to be a member of Mensa. Do you know what that is? She spells words correctly too.

You do not know that. That has not been confirmed in any way, shape, or form.

You're opposing it. Looks like you have rights.

The neo-Nazis have paraded in the Chicago heavily-Jewish suburb of Skokie. Those neo-Nazis have rights. The Jews protested but didn't stop them.

President Bush, less than a week after 9/11, visited the Washington mosque and declared that Islam is a religion of peace.

There is a mosque less than 80 feet from where the plane flew into the Pentagon.

excon did, pages ago.

So freaking what... can you NOT read english or can you simply not understand it.

The ONLY legitimate excuse for a NEW mosque is as as a VICTORY symbol honoring the Terrorists. THey have an old masque two blocks from that one... are Muslims to damn stupid to find it? I don't think so... It will be erected in Honor of Mohammed Attah and his band of terrorists... and they have suckered a small group of Americans into believing that is a great Idea.

Really, 80 feet... Bullsh*t. I know what is in the area the Plane hit on the various levels, and the functions performed there did not include a Mosque a Chapel, restaurant or a nudie bar, that is elsehere in the Pentagon. And it isn't a mosque... Its a multi-denomination Chapel. Different religions have services on different days and times... in the same space.

So, the lefties will drop their Protests to using the Cionfederate flag on the state flags and locally.

I'll be waiting to hear them bring court cases to reverse their previous fights to deny the southerners the right to their Heritage, symbolised in that flag. But I'm not going to hold my breath... the left lies about everything, they believe anything they are told to believe, much like a majority of the Muslims... why would their leaders lie to them...

And after all, as long as Iran is funding Obamas Agenda, ever wonder where he got his MILLIONS, Illinoise Senate doesn't pay that kind of money and he didn't inherit it... and he certainly didn't EARN it, a democrat would defend the right of Muslims to impose Sharia on the USA for a buck and fight anyone that stood up for American values.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

So freaking what....can you NOT read english or can you simply not understand it.

You have very little respect for others than yourself, this much is obvious.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

The ONLY legitimate excuse for a NEW mosque is as as a VICTORY symbol honoring the Terrorists.

It's not a mosque, it's more akin to a YMCA. BTW your writing is atrocious.

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The neo-Nazis have paraded in the Chicago heavily-Jewish suburb of Skokie. Those neo-Nazis have rights. The Jews protested but didn't stop them.

No they did not... I commented on that way back on comment #53 (page 6 )

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Now for the record ,because some people may not be aware of the case , the Skokie, Ill. March did not actually happen in Skokie .The Nazis wanted to march there because there were a lot of holocost survivors in the town . SCOTUS ruled in favor of the Nazis.

But public pressure effectively applied ; the Nazi instead held 3 marches (poorly attended ) in the Chicago area and did not march in the area where it would've been most offensive.

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There is a mosque less than 80 feet from where the plane flew into the Pentagon.

Nope . As Smoothy pointed out it is a room set aside for prayers. Anyone assigned to the Pentagon can use it ;including the Muslim members of the military .But it is not set aside exclusively for any religion.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

the left lies about everything, they believe anything they are told to believe,

Hello kettle:

Now, THAT'S funny.

Pot

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Originally Posted by smoothy

So freaking what... can you NOT read english or can you simply not understand it.

You didn't apologize. You continue to disrespect me and put me down.

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The ONLY legitimate excuse for a NEW mosque is as as a VICTORY symbol honoring the Terrorists.

Can't have a new mosque? This location on Park Pl. is already being used as a mosque, overflow from another one farther away.

My town of 50,000 has three Catholic churches and maybe 15 (or more -- didn't Google for a list) Protestant ones. Too many?

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Really, 80 feet...

It's a mosque when Muslims use it, which they do frequently. Do you how often they pray?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You have very little respect for others than yourself, this much is obvious.

It's not a mosque, it's more akin to a YMCA. BTW your writing is atrocious.

Big damn deal.. The lefties show no respect to others... and never have.

We saw the lefts respect the last 8 years when Dan Rather was caught fabricating a story to bash Bush... that many lefties refuse to beive he did. Typical lefty actions... they never let facts get in the way of Party propaganda.

Hell the dumb SOB in the White house after almost TWO years still blames everyone else for everything HE is Presidentm has been for almost 2 years... the Democrats have been in the Majority in Congress for the last 4 years. If the left had any brains they would remind dumbo ears he is president... this is HIS watchm, and HIS responsibility... NOT somebody that's been in TX retired for almost two years now.

So? I'm not an English Major... did I ever make the claim that I was at any point since I joined this site 5 years ago? I'm an Engineer not a writer or english teacher.

What they Plan to Build is a Mosque... just because they plan to put something else in it as well doesn't change its Main Purpose, a Memorial Mosque honoring the 9/11 terrorists. There is an Existing Mosque two blocks away... they HAVE an existing place of worship.

And Besides, who would a YMCA even it it were if it were a YMCA in an area with NO residential Housing nearby?

YMCAs are only near residential housing developments? I didn't know that! LOL!

YMCA near New York, NY, United States - Google Maps

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Nope . As Smoothy pointed out it is a room set aside for prayers. Anyone assigned to the Pentagon can use it ;including the Muslim members of the military .But it is not set aside exclusively for any religion.

When Muslims pray, as smoothy said, a space is a mosque. Therefore, when this room is used as a place of prayer (how many times a day?), the space is a mosque.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

When Muslims pray, as smoothy said, a space is a mosque. Therefore, when this room is used as a place of prayer (how many times a day?), the space is a mosque.

Really, More lefty claims... You said its 80 fweet from where the Plane hit the Pentagon... right smack in the middle of an area where OTHER offices are located and have been, no figure out WHAT offices they are, I'm not telling you. Its NOT a publicly accessible area where you claim it was. Must be Invisible... or like the Tardis.

Do you think that the Pentagon is the Size of a Walmart or a little larger?

When it towers 15 stories over the site of the attack and is funded in an opaque manner by foreign sources ,then I'll be concerned about a triumphant mosque at the Pentagon.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

YMCAs are only near residential housing developments? I didn't know that! LOL!

YMCA near New York, NY, United States - Google Maps

Huge need for a YMCA near Office Building in a HIGH rent district... yeah, Manhattan needs another one of those.

The Mohammed Attah Memorial Mosque and YMCA. With a Dedication Plaque in the Lobby showing Paid for by Osama Bin Laden.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Really, More lefty claims.....You said its 80 fweet from where the Plane hit the Pentagon

"fweet"?

I'm a Republican.

Time for lunch. Bye for now.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

"fweet"?

I'm a Republican.

Time for lunch. Bye for now.

You know what... THAT will be VERY hard to prove... Unless you are a well known and ranking member in the Republican party aparatus. Because you have done nothing but bash the right and justify everything the left dreams up.

Not everyone is a fanatical extremist as it concerns politics. Some are more in the middle.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

You know what....THAT will be VERY hard to prove......Unless you are a well known and ranking member in the Republican party aparatus. Because you have done nothing but bash the right and justify everything the left dreams up.

My word isn't good enough for you? I do not lie. I am a registered Republican and have never been anything else.

I haven't bashed anyone. (The eggs for egg salad are cooking.)

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

My word isn't good enough for you? I do not lie. I am a registered Republican and have never been anything else.

I haven't bashed anyone. (The eggs for egg salad are cooking.)

Well being this is online... we only have what we say. And you are entitled to and should maintain your anonymity. Basically, I'm NOT asking or wanting you to fax me a copy of it.

Maybe the intent wasn't bashing... but it did certainly come across that way.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Not everyone is a fanatical extremist as it concerns politics. Some are more in the middle.

Far more are ideologs (many aren't radicals... just gullible) who believe only what they are told to believe, usually by people who have an agenda and are less than truthful . Like any religious radical those people are dangerous.

There is a term for them... I think it was Stalin that coined it... "Usefull Idiots".

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Originally Posted by smoothy

And Besides, who would a YMCA even it it were if it were a YMCA in an area with NO residential Housing nearby?

The people who understand that sometimes it's easier to go on lunch, or on your break from work. The same people that know sometimes there ISN'T enough people in a residential area who need a YMCA--but PLENTY of people will stop on their way home from work.

I think you're forgetting that people WORK in this area--and many people (like me) won't go back out to work out, or get involved, or whatever, if we go home first. Once I'm home, I'm home--but stopping to work out on the way home (and psst--my YWCA is in a business district) is MORE than feasible, it's desirable. If my lunch were a little longer, I'd go on my lunch every day instead of on the way home.

It doesn't need to be in a residential area to be used. Just ask the members of the many churches ALREADY in the vicinity of Ground Zero.

Jefferson had a hand in the constitution I believe and he recognized that the rights of all citizens must be considered, law or no law. I'll take him at what he said, not what others guess he might have been thinking, 200+ years ago.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
Thomas Jefferson