Only the few here ,and Andrew Sullivan are promoting this fiction that it represents anything resembling a victory. Read the Joe Klein article . Read Maureen Dowd. The lefties are bailing ship on this incompetent community organizer turned CIC .

Can face the fact your guys got caught in yeat another serioes of lies... just like Benghazi...

And trying to claim victory after getting punked by Putin...

Your guys screwed up Tal... and got caught yet again, just admit it... you can't spin the truth into some some other fantasy.

Or are we about to hear for the 2 Billionth time... how this is really Bushes fault?

Why blame Bush when the problem is the right wing republicans?

Hello again, wrong wingers:

Let me see if I get this right.. Obama threatens to strike Syria over its use of chemical weapons. Upon BEING threatened, Syria agrees to GIVE UP its chemical weapons..

And, you call that a DEFEAT...

Boy, oh boy, oh boy... We're in more trouble than I thought..

excon

I neither called it defeat or victory . The only thing that you KNOW has happened is that Assad admitted to having them ;and is now in the process of moving them . He has not agreed to anything . What Putin has claimed he agreed to is to have international supervision of his cw in return to a guarantee that the US will not strike.
Meanwhile his air assets are again being decisive . Sounds like a victory for Assad and even more for Putin who is claiming the influence for his nation that the emperor is ceding .

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Hello again, wrong wingers:

Lemme see if I get this right.. Obama threatens to strike Syria over its use of chemical weapons. Upon BEING threatened, Syria agrees to GIVE UP its chemical weapons..

And, you call that a DEFEAT...

Boy, oh boy, oh boy... We're in more trouble than I thought..

excon

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Obama was ready to start WW3 in Syria (who never threatened us much les attacked us until Obama threatened to commit an act of war) ust to distract everyone from Benghazi, the IRS and Fast and furious scandlal investigations... this has nothing to do with chemical weapons.

Hello again, tom:

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He has not agreed to anything

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Uhhh, Yes, he has.

Excon

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Righty's never admit to being wrong, so why would you expect anyone else to? Especially since the president is wrong on everything in your eyes.

Is their anything you guys won't squeal about?

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Dude, you're in denial. Other than a few diehards it's pretty universally agreed, including by people Chris Tingly Matthews, that Obama's handling of Syria has been a disaster. And that's putting it mildly from some of things I've seen.

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Obama's handling of Syria has been a disaster.

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And starting WWIII would have been a disaster too.

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Hello again, tom:


Uhhh, Yes, he has.

excon

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And then he promptly moved the goalpost.

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And starting WWIII would have been a disaster too.

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Was I hoping for WWIII or something?

Hello again, Steve:

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Obama's handling of Syria has been a disaster.

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And, yet, he WON! Whoda thunk it?

Excon

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Was I hoping for WWIII or something?

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You were waiting on the sidelines.

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Hello again, tom:


Uhhh, Yes, he has.

excon

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9/10 is old news. The proposal has been revised with provisos regarding US guarantees to not attack.

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You were waiting on the sidelines.

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We're all waiting for a leader and so far, Putin seems to be winning that race.

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Hello again, Steve:
And, yet, he WON! Whoda thunk it?

excon

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As I said, and then Assad promptly moved the goalpost. Although I got to say it is amusing watching you fly the "mission accomplished" banner.

Hello again, Steve:

I don't know what's so hard about stuff to understand... Getting the agreement was the HARD part. Working out the details should be EASY. Oh, it'll have little bumps along the way, and you'll call them defeats, of course.. But, he WON. The details WILL be worked out.

You DO know that when HE wins, WE win. Actually, as a committed right winger, you DON'T know that, do you?

excon

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Hello again, Steve:

I dunno what's so hard about stuff to understand... Getting the agreement was the HARD part. Working out the details should be EASY. Oh, it'll have little bumps along the way, and you'll call them defeats, of course.. But, he WON. The details WILL be worked out.

You DO know that when HE wins, WE win. Actually, as a committed right winger, you DON'T know that, do you?

excon

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Forgive me for not jumping on the "mission accomplished" bandwagon just yet, all I see is Obama just got punked by Putin and Assad and the administration has sunk so low as to embrace indecisiveness as a virtue in the leader of the free world.

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Hello again, Steve:

I dunno what's so hard about stuff to understand... Getting the agreement was the HARD part. Working out the details should be EASY. Oh, it'll have little bumps along the way, and you'll call them defeats, of course.. But, he WON. The details WILL be worked out.

You DO know that when HE wins, WE win. Actually, as a committed right winger, you DON'T know that, do you?

excon

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The goal Ex was not to get an agreement, the goal was to punish the use of weapons BO told him not to use, so the victory, if there is one, is Assad's. He used the weapons, got told he was a naughty boy, and he had to give up his toys, so he said yes. But what you don't acknowledge is yes, but later, when I'm sure you are not going to hit me

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The goal Ex was not to get an agreement, the goal was to punish the use of weapons BO told him not to use, so the victory, if there is one, is Assad's. He used the weapons, got told he was a naughty boy, and he had to give up his toys, so he said yes. but what you don't acknowledge is yes, but later, when I'm sure you are not going to hit me

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Taking toys away from him (and the message also from everyone else) is better than beating him bloody. Or do you like bloody?