Okay, we can vote on that too if you want. Right after the senate takes up the votes on its agenda.
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Okay, we can vote on that too if you want. Right after the senate takes up the votes on its agenda.
The Senate needs to have a vote on the budgets it has been presented the last 4 years its still sitting on. FIRST.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Okay let's vote on that too.
Hello again, wingers:
Would you get on an airplane if you KNEW that 40% of the people DIDN'T have to go through security?
excon
I didn't comment on the politics . I asked a follow up question which was : What are the poll #s on a national gun registry ?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Do you think you can have universal backround checks without a universal registration ?
To answer your question... no I don't think there is political consequences for Repubics who vote against it . I think there will be plenty of political consequences for Dems from Red or swing states that do vote in favor of it . Harry Reid knows this . That is why he has been luke warm and moving at a snail's pace ;while Emperor 0 has been in full campaign mode. If he thought he had the votes ;he wouldn't fly the Sandy Hook families in Air Force One on campaign stops .
I don't believe airport security is covered in the bill of rights.
Hello again, tom:
Sure. Put the bad guys in the data base, and if your name doesn't come up, no records are kept. Now, I COULD presume that the government would CHEAT, but that wasn't your question..Quote:
Do you think you can have universal backround checks without a universal registration ?
By the way, if that were the law, and it was ENFORCED, the government COULDN'T keep records.
Excon
Hello again, Steve:
So, you DO believe that bad guys WILL get guns. That, plus you think your right to bear arms is DENIED because you have to go through a background check?Quote:
I don't believe airport security is covered in the bill of rights.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... That is the MOST CRIMINAL FRIENDLY position I have EVER seen from you wingers... You are SOOOOO unwilling to spend 5 minutes of your precious right wing time, and so what if real bad guys get some guns?? At least I won't be inconvenienced.
You guys are positively bleeding hearts...
Excon
The Schumer bill is a back door registry . The only difference is that technically the government isn't keeping the records... the gun dealers and law-enforcement agencies that conduct the checks keep the records . Without the records ,the law is useless. So no , a universal backround check is a defacto registry .
Sorry dude, you can rant all you want I cannot support a bad bill, no a TERRIBLE bill just because you and Obama are OUTRAGED.
Hello again, tom:
You didn't ask me about Schumers bill. You asked me if such and such is possible, and I said yes.Quote:
So no , a universal backround check is a defacto registry .
Now, you can call paper records kept at 10's of 1,000's of individual gun shops, a registry if you want to. You could call a bus a filet mignon too, but it isn't.
Excon
So that's your choice... an ineffective bill that doesn't do anything useful ;or a gun registry .But if it's a feel good bromide “something must be done” you are looking for that doesn't do any good ,and tramples on more rights... well that's what you are getting .
That's all that matters to libs, tom, that they feel better about themselves.
Hello again, tom:
What's feel good about DENYING criminals from getting guns? Look. This is simple... Put the bad guys IN the data base. When you buy a gun, if you're NOT in there, you get a gun.
Oh, I'm sure you'll throw up some other BS. You don't want to debate actual FACTS because you won't WIN.
excon
Last year the no-fly list doubled in a year . The government will not tell people whether they're on the list or why they're on it, making it impossible for people to defend themselves if they believe they are wrongly on the list People who complain that they're unfairly on the no-fly list can submit a letter to DHS , but the only way they'll know if they're still on the list is to try to fly again. We hear about the famous people who were denied a seat due to being on the list ;like Teddy Kennedy . But we don't hear about how many people were wrongly put on the no-fly list .
No-fly list strands man in on island in Hawaii | Fox News
Actually we do hear of some ;like the 13 people that the ACLU is going to bat for... including a four military veterans who were denied a plane ride for falsely being on that list .
That's 20,000 people.. How many would make it to your national database?. and more importantly ;how many people will end up on that list by a mistake ,clerical error etc. For a due process kind of person ,your position suprises me.
You know good and well that we don't want guns in the hands of criminals, but like health care again you guys won't settle for trying fix what's broken you want to get intrusive and overbearing. You know what I say to that? Bite me, I won't support a terrible bill, period.
Hello again, tom:
Because government hasn't worked well in the past is NO reason why we couldn't make it work now. Look.. Laws against murder haven't worked well in the past, but I don't hear you saying we should repeal them.
excon
Keep cheer leading for government like that and you'll have everyone convinced in no time. Go ahead, let the Senate vote and make all those red state Dems put it in the record before the House kills any chance of it passing.
14 People Stabbed at Lone Star Community College in Texas
I hope and pray everyone is OK. Now who is going to start the push for knife control?
Lets see Excon, Tal and crew push for knife registrations.. background checks before being allowed to be near sharp objects.
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