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Originally Posted by paraclete

so once again Tom you are saying BO is a white nigga, not representative of his people. how polite of you not to say something else

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Your words ;not mine.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom;
Zimmerman was acquitted because NOBODY knows what happened at that crucial moment. Why you take his words as gospel is beyond me.

excon

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Show me where the prosecution disputed that fact .

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom;
Zimmerman was acquitted because NOBODY knows what happened at that crucial moment. Why you take his words as gospel is beyond me.

excon

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Zimmerman was acquitted because the prosecution could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt he was guilty of the charges even though he admitted to shooting Martin. That's the way it works, get over it.

Hello again, Steve:

Your right wing knee jerked. I said NOTHING different than you. The NOBODY above, was the jury, and that's WHY they acquitted him.. Get over it.

At least you didn't say you took Zimmermans word like tom did.

excon

Then why are we still talking about it?

I take his word because no evidence was presented to dispute it even as the defense made it a key point . The prosecution had the last word and still did not dispute it .

Hello again, tom:

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show me where the prosecution disputed that fact .

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I'm not here to carry water for the prosecution. They were UNABLE to prove the allegations BEYOND a reasonable doubt.. That's just so. It was an IMPOSSIBLE hurdle from the get go.

The prosecution would have to PROVE, beyond a reasonable doubt, that, in those final moments, Zimmerman was the aggressor. Since we ONLY have Zimmerman's version, proof BEYOND a reasonable doubt cannot be known. It's an IMPOSSIBLE task. Whether the jurors believed him or not CHANGES nothing about the impossibility of the prosecutions case... It's absolutely consistent to BELIEVE that Zimmerman is a LYING, murdering, SOB, and I do, and believe the verdict was correct...

I don't know if he lied.. But, he WOULD lie if he were a murderer. You KNOW that he would.

Excon

Yeah the last card the prosecution played was the "liar" card .The evidence was something else. The evidence provided by Rachel Jeantel was that even though she advised him to run ,that he confronted Zimmerman instead . The evidence shows that when Zimmerman was advised by the dispatcher that they did not need him to pursue or even find out an exact address that Zimmerman attempted to return to his car. The evidence shows that Treyvon initiated the confrontation and that it was his option to either confront or avoid confrontation.

Hello again, tom:

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The evidence shows that Treyvon initiated the confrontation and that it was his option to either confront or avoid confrontation.

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Nahhhh. It's like I said, NOBODY was there but Zimmerman.. Therefore, the words out of his mouth AIN'T evidence. It's not even CLOSE. Evidence is CORROBORATED... At best, it's an accused murderer's VERSION of the facts - NOTHING MORE!

Now, you can BELIEVE it if you CHOOSE, but I'd ask myself why.

Excon

It's what the jury believes that matters and they've spoken.

Hello again, Steve:

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It's what the jury believes that matters and they've spoken.

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We were talking about what YOU guys thought. But, if you want to leave it at that, I'm cool with it.

Excon

What I think has been established, no need to rehash. Again, and again and again.

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The evidence shows that Treyvon initiated the confrontation and that it was his option to either confront or avoid confrontation.

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There was no evidence that showed who started the confrontation, just the word of the survivor who had a lot to lose, and was shown to be knowledgeable in what to say in this situation, yet lied about it on tape when asked directly.

That didn't seem to give the jury or you guys pause, or consideration for some reason. Nor the lack of remorse by Zimmerman. He got what he always wanted, he didn't let one of those guys get away this time, bloody nose and all the scraps and bumps.

Sorry while I try to respect the process, and the verdict, I can't believe Zimmerman in anything he says, and still see Trayvon as his victim, wannebe thug, or not. I guess the law did what it was supposed to. Protect a scared dumbass from his own stupidity, and bad judgement, and kept him out of jail.

Still with repeating the same old lies. I've documented his remorse. What do want from him, spend the next 20 years walking around with a sign saying I'm sorry or what? Where's the remorse from the media that falsely portrayed him as a racist "white Hispanic" murdering a helpless little black boy for wearing a hoody?

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Still with repeating the same old lies. I've documented his remorse. What do want from him, spend the next 20 years walking around with a sign saying I'm sorry or what? Where's the remorse from the media that falsely portrayed him as a racist "white Hispanic" murdering a helpless little black boy for wearing a hoody?

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It's probably in the same place as you swallowing his story completely without reservation.

He apologized to the family at his bond hearing,  he tried to apologize to them privately but was "rebuffed" acccording to CNN, and also in the Hannity interview,  but what you guys got out of that was God made him do it. 

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At times Zimmerman seemed to eke out a nervous smile, with sweat gathering on his upper lip. He spent much of the one-hour interview recounting the moments just before and after the shooting. But he also addressed Martin's parents. When asked what he would say to them, he answered, "I would tell them again that I'm sorry."

"I don't have my wife and I don't have any children," he said. "I have nephews that I love more than life, I love them more than myself. I know that when they were born it was a different, unique bond and love that I have with them. And I love my children, even though they aren't born yet. And I am sorry that they buried their child. I can't imagine what it must feel like, and I pray for them daily."

Zimmerman Apology: Trayvon Martin Shooter Tells Parents He's Sorry During 'Hannity' Interview

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So what more do you want?

P. S. He sure sounds like a cracka when he talks eh?

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So what more do you want?

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Apologies are easy to give when you have nothing to lose.

If I don't believe his account of events, or his reasoning behind his actions that led to the events why should I believe his apology. But I do believe the dead kid was afraid of the stranger stalking him.

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Apologies are easy to give when you have nothing to lose.

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John 8:7 But when they continued asking him, he lifted himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone... (ASV - sent from CadreBible)

Would you be as respectful had a black jury convicted him?