I'd still like to see NK's interpretation.
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I'd still like to see NK's interpretation.
This is correct. I'm not sure how else it could be interpreted.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Just checking.
No they sprayed the right group. Of course that other Phelps group needed it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
It's bad pr if nothing else . People are photoshopping that picture and it's gone more than viral.
The images of the Brits banging on Indian heads sealed the deal with the Gandhi protests .
Until now the police were responding to violent protests and their response has been the correct one . The image of the movement was one of naiivity to the extreme of nihilists . But in this case they are victims . This crosses the line gave them a very important pr victory.
It was a pr victory, but not quite as pivotal as Michael Moore thinks...
Michael Moore: UC Davis Pepper Spray Incident ‘Resonates’ With The World Like Tienanmen Square
Hello again, Steve:
Who would have thought that a fruit vender setting himself on fire in Tunisia would be HUGELY pivitol to the entire world?
I've predicted OWS is THIS generations' 1968. I wish them well.
excon
You know, there are federal laws protecting abortion clinic access and that's fine, I don't agree with blocking abortion clinic entrances as a tactic any more than I agree with the occupiers blocking businesses and commutes. In fact, the Obama administration is cracking down on such clinic protesters. And while I deplore the UC pepper spray incident, what makes blocking the police after being warned or blocking private business and streets any less egregious a violation than blocking a clinic entrance? Why doesn't the media treat the current obstruction as seriously as if clinic access was blocked somewhere?
yeah isn't that peaceful assembly or something ?
My guess would be the level of violence that has occurred around clinics as people have been killed, and clinics firebombed at clinics across the country.
For sure, if violence escalates around OWS and student protests, no doubt the push back will escalate also.
This site has but some of the clever photoshopping being done with the image of the pepper spraying incident .
Pepper Spray Cop / Casually Pepper Spray Everything Cop | Know Your Meme
Pepper Spray Cop / Casually Pepper Spray Everything Cop: Image Gallery | Know Your Meme
casually pepper spray - Google Search
My favorite... Sgt .Pepper .
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/i...crop-smart.jpg
And for Ex... I give you the anthem for the movement you were looking for .( apoligies to John Steinbeck)
Occupy Wall Street ANTHEM Bruce Springsteen Tom Joad OWS - YouTube
I saw Springsteen do this song live with Tom Morello of 'Rage against the Machine ' at Madison Square Garden at the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Concert a couple years ago.
Hello tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
To quote a famous politician, it's twue, it's, it's twue, it's twue..
Happy Thanksgiving.
excon
Very similar to the Woodstock crowd. The artists who gave anthems to the movement got on their helicopters and limos to get from venue to venue and lived in the nicest hotels while the kids camped out for 3 days in the mud.
Springteen is 1% isn't he ? Tom Joad ,in desperation ,packed up his family and became a migrant worker. The Occupiers wear designer jeans ,have ipods and pads ;and think working with your hands is beneath one.
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Here's the thing you miss... You think Al Gore can't be legitimate because he flies around in a jet.. You think Springsteen is phony because he has money. You think people who DON'T work with their hands can understand someone who does.. You think they can't have legitimate complaints because they wear designer jeans... Although I don't know, I'll bet you de-legitimized the Kennedy's because they thought of OTHERS besides their rich friends...
Why would those who recognize the plight of the underclass BE de-legitimized in your mind? Because they aren't members?? If you have to BE poor to speak for the poor who's going to hear you? Do you even believe that the underclass SHOULD have a voice??
Sure, you'll say... They're free to hire well dressed spokesman, IF they can. That's the American way, after all... But, it's not.
I suggest, again, that you look PAST the people who are doing the talking, and LISTEN to what they say... But, you can't do that.. You're blinded by their bling.
That's one of the things I soooo admire about myself... I HAVE the ability to empathize with people ACROSS the board... I get along with death row inmates, just like I do CEO's. I can relate to a drug user as I can a senator.. I understand HOW the wealthy feel and what they want, and I also relate to the poor..
If you want to talk with me ABOUT their complaints, we could engage... But, I'm not going to talk to you about what they wear.
excon
My beef isn't with Springsteen . He's out to make a buck... and a 1990s song of his that was pretty much a bust will get a rebirth because someone took stills of the OWS crowd and made a clever video.
But for the Occupiers to think their beef is similar to what the Tom Joads of the 1930s were is delusional ,self absorbed ,and a distortion.
Maybe what they really want is -ism ?
50-year-old CARTOON TRIED TO WARN US - YouTube
Hi Dad,Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
Some irony in this cartoon as well.
It is through disunity we maintain our freedom rather than unity
When we make a concerted effort to guard against others who would take our freedom we run the risk of creating a tyranny of the majority.
"Society can and does exercise its own mandates; and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all in things which it ought not to meddle, it practices a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression.........."
J.S. Mill
Calling themselves 1%ers is likely to get their butts kicked...
The REAL 1%ers are dudes like the Hells Angels, The Bandidos, Pagans, etc...
an interesting contrast with your society today, one could say your values have shifted somewhat and you adopted an ISM or two or three.Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
CapitalISM, EnvironmentalISM, MilitarISM
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