I see that gets your attention...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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I see that gets your attention...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I don't eat bar-B-que Koala bear...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Being able to tell the good guys from the bad guys and crazy people. And some reasonable dialog without paranoia and fear dictating everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
Yeah your family doctor asking is a threat to your rights Sheeesh!! He only asks if he thought you were a dangerous NUT!! Are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Not true... The President announced 23 executive actions on Jan. 16 addressing gun violence . Number 16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
It's a small step from that the HHS mandating that doctors add it to the ever expanding questionnaire they are required to ask under Obamacare . Many already have. It's a clever play on words for the legislation to prohibit the Justice Dept from keeping a registry .
The Volokh Conspiracy » The “Pro-Gun” Provisions of Manchin-Toomey are Actually a Bonanza of Gun ControlQuote:
The limit on creating a registry applies only to the Attorney General (and thus to entities under his direct control, such as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives). By a straightforward application of inclusio unius exclusio alterius it is permissible for entities other than the Attorney General to create gun registries, using whatever information they can acquire from their own operations. For example, the Secretary of HHS may consolidate and centralize whatever firearms records are maintained by any medical or health insurance entity. The Secretary of the Army may consolidate and centralize records about personal guns owned by military personnel and their families.
Nor do I it's a protected species what I suggest you go find a wild boar you would be great matesQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Wild boar makes for good eating...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
It's a delicacy in Italy... chingiale
Cinghiale: Wild Boar
All they are is little more than feral hogs... and genetically they are very close to domestic hogs.
Taste good and a real menace ,sort of like the deer population in NY . What we need to do is encourage hunters to kill them and donate the meat to shelters .
Careful now, Speech will come along shortly to tell how irrelevant your posts are and how stupid you all are.
That was totally uncalled for.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I reckon if my doc asks I'll just have to lie to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Lol!
Rhymes with troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Stop stalking me!!!!!
Grow up.
It might be a small step to identifying whether a patient with mental issues or under strong medication can become dangerous to himself, or others. I mean you do want a list of those people don't you? Probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Good then the doctor won't be responsible for knowingly letting a dangerous loony bird with access to a firearm should you go off and shoot up a movie theater. You do see where a crazy person with a gun is dangerous don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Why should doctors be tattling to the government who owns a gun or not... why should a docter even know if you have a gun or not... what business is it of theirs.
This is not unlike getting kids to tattle on their parents like under Pol Pot in Cambodia, under the old Soviet Union... or under Chairman Mao... or any other number of oppressive regimes.
Reporting the mentally unstable is their field... not trying to be a back door to finding out who owns a gun or not.
Or a more saner version of your rant is he may not prescribe certain things if he knows you can shoot up your own family, or shoot yourself. I know, you can't imagine any drug that make you crazier than what you are. Honestly, neither can I even if you add loads of alcohol. But you never know.
If meds can say don't drive or operate machinery, why can't a doctor tellyou don't play with a loaded gun?
I answered that before you asked it, but since I'm not a loon if my doctor asked me that I'd tell him it was none of his business.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Apparently the only ones really angry about it are 26 percent of Democrats. That's got to be another kick in the groin to Obama after trying so hard to fool the people into buying into his BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Take TWO aspirin, call me in the morning. If paranoia persist seek an emergency free clinic.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
We have more of a legal right to know about Obamas still secret college transcripts than ANY doctor or the government has to know if we have a gun or not...
I took some aspirin but you're still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
You want him to leave this site?Quote:
I took some aspirin but you're still there.
SMH... will you ever grow up? Ask Tal if that's what I meant, k?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
So what did you mean? It's a public forum.
It's an old, old joke, dude. As I said before, Tal can answer for himself, we don't need your help.
Gun control is apparently not dead, yet, and Bill Clinton is giving us advice on self-defense a la Joe Biden.
Something like this baby? The SRM 1216 semi-automatic tactical shotgun, holds 16 rounds.Quote:
If you live in a city and you think you need protection of your home, you’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon,” Clinton added. “Trust me. It’s not even close.
http://www.tactical-life.com/wp-cont...008/02/srm.jpg
Hello again, Steve:
No, it's NOT dead. That's because you wingers don't know how to read polls. Ok, that's not true. You don't BELIEVE the polls you read.
Of course, this blowback is going to DESTROY the Republican majority in the House, and RUIN your hopes of taking over the Senate.
How could you guys miscalculate so badly?
excon
I haven't miscalculated, you guys are miscalculating on these polls. It just isn't that important to Americans, they're worried about the ECONOMY and jobs, but you guys cannot get your priorities straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The best defense against Clintoon is a chastity belt
Nice add for 1776, but kind of stupid for 2013.
Kind of stupid for lefties to have freedom of speech... what the heck do they need that for anyway... your handlers tell you what to think anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello smoothy/traitor:
See you on the battlefield. I'll be the one carrying the American Flag.
excon
Hello again,
Right wingers argue that background checks would NOT have stopped Sandy Hook.. That's the answer to a question that NOBODY is asking.. They give that answer, because they don't want to answer the CORRECT question...
The CORRECT question, is what can be done to prevent the NEXT one. I'm SURE Frank Luntz has something to do with the right wing lockstep response.. They think they're FOOLING us...
From MY vantage point, I don't care that the proposed law wouldn't have stopped Sandy Hook.. I care if it'll stop the NEXT one... And, if the next one is perpetrated by a person who WOULD have been stopped by a background check, what will right wingers say? What COULD they say? Would they embarrassed? Would they be ashamed? Would they come out and ADMIT they were answering the wrong question? Will they RESIGN? Will they fall on their swords?
Nahhh... They'll just LIE again..
excon
The FBI conducted 14,409,616 background checks in 2010, 16,454,951 in 2011, and 19,592,303 in 2012.
Add to that the first four months of 2013 (2,495,440, 2,309,393, 2,209,407 and 1,714,433 respectively) and the total number of background checks under President Obama comes to 72,005,482.
Obama has been President for 1,550 days. That works out to 46,455 background checks for gun purchases each day.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nic...als-033113.pdf
Hello again,
Yes, I have more to say... One of the reasons right wingers don't want background checks is because they say the EXISTING background check law ISN'T being enforced... That's a pretty BIZARRE way to look at it... In fact, it's SOOO bizarre, that it's not credible... I'm STILL scratching my head over it...
From MY perspective, the purpose of the current background check law is to PREVENT felons from buying guns. And, it's WORKING. It's DOING that. It REALLY is. However, right wingers, say it's not being enforced because the cops DON'T arrest the felons who were DENIED... Makes NO sense to me..
Now, let me see... They CAN'T buy a gun.. They were REFUSED. They didn't WALK out of the gun shop WITH a gun. But, the law doesn't work because the cops don't chase them down?? Really.. They want cops to arrest the guy who COULDN'T buy a gun. And, if they don't, they're not going to let OTHER felons be denied.?
Am I the only one who thinks that's STUPID, STUPID, and even more STUPID than that??
Over to you, wingers...
excon
Hello again, tom:
Cool. What's your point?Quote:
That works out to 46,455 background checks for gun purchases each day.
Excon
The only gun recovered so far from the Tsarnaev brothers' shootout was a semiautomatic handgun with its serial number scratched off... which means it was probably purchased /obtained illegally (as ,most guns used in crimes are ).That means that the brothers somehow neglected to register for gun permits as required in Massachusetts. Would expanded backround checks have made a difference in this case ? Nope . For that matter ;all the other lists the government maintains made no difference either .
Democratic Rep. Carolyn Maloney said background checks would have stopped the Boston bomber.
Personally I didn't know pressure cookers were that hard to come by.Quote:
As it stands right now, Tamerlan, as we know now, was on the terrorist watch list, so we know a gun check would stop him. If there was a background check, as it stands now, Tamerlan… or the next terrorist, can go to any gun show, and buy a hundred-round magazine. They can buy all the assault weapons they want, no questions asked. The gun lobby has the upper hand now, even though 90 percent of Americans want gun safety. This in no way infringes on the right of law-abiding Americans… but for the terrorist, for the bad guys, let’s pass sensible gun-safety legislation.
As long as you lefties keep making dubious, make that moronic links you can't be taken seriously.
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