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When it comes down to filing federal tax returns married couples have a distinct advantage, and also good luck telling a couple already married and for many years they are room mates and file separately. Good luck telling couples that their church wedding has been voided by your state legislature.
All because they cannot discriminate any longer.
Who said anything about voiding marriages?
Hello again, Steve:
Then you DON'T support the end of marriage, as we know it, in the great state of Oklahoma... But, I can't tell..Quote:
Don't believe I've ever made that argument.
excon
Hello again, Steve:Go see post #790. You'll see that your neighbor, Oklahoma, is going to get RID of marriage if they have to share it with gay people...Quote:
Who said anything about voiding marriages?
excon
Yes I know that, but the question is whether or not the state will regulate marriage, not dissolve them.
If the governor of Oklahoma signs the legislation to dissolve marriage for everybody, the citizens will sue and back to court they go. An expensive exercise in futility. They will need more than luck.
Again, where does this proposal "dissolve" current marriages? The word Turner used was "regulate," not ban, not dissolve, not void. The question is whether or not Oklahoma will stop regulating marriage, not dissolve them.
We will see when the courts rule on Oklahoma's gay marriage ban. Turner's Plan B will then be put in play.
why is it that you have to take everything to extremes, joint tax filings has nothing to do with marriage and everything to do with politics, what part of the government givith and the government takith away don't you understand?
marriage is a simple concept that has nothing to do with taxation but because the government has attached certain perks to marriage others want in on the act
Wouldn't YOU?
I wouldn't want other laws altered so I could, I think all the tax allowances have gone too far so that noone is paying their fair share but they are still expecting handouts and exemptions. you fellows have a minimum tax rate over there so you should ditch all the bull and just make the minimum to tax rate without, exemptions, deductions and incentives. Simplify the whole system and take the complexity out, then the gays have no need to have the definition of marriage altered to include them in the whorting of the tax system
Laws are altered, changed, or whatever all the time. Some are thrown out as being outdated and irrelevant. Time changes everything, or we would still be hiding in caves. And you would be a penal colony.
yes we had our unfortunate past as did you, but we learned a lesson that is lost on you, everyone has a right to a certain basic standard of living and that standard is not subsistence. What we endeavour to do is bring everyone up to a standard rather than reducing everyone down to a minimum.
Many of those who suffered in those penal colonoies were there because the society they lived in took no responsibility for them, it was a capitalist society of the type that some here laud and would like to see the return of. The ethos of this land taught them something and therefore we have a society far removed from yours, a place where we don't have a shutdown of government over providing basic health care, where the hard yards are taken in our stride, and we find a way to get past our differences which are afterall only differences of opinion, and don't assume undue proportions
no it wasn't a capitalist system . They were escaping a mercantile system( government intervention is important in allocating goods and resources and determining prices) such as the statists here are trying to replicate.
Government intervention, price controls, etc.?
Yeah, he should just tell the stores to put out more toilet paper or else!Quote:
At markets, Chavez successor falls short - The Washington Post
CARACAS, Venezuela — On aisle seven, among the diapers and fabric softener, the socialist dreams of the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez looked as ragged as the toilet paper display.
Employees at the Excelsior Gama supermarket had set out a load of extra-soft six-roll packs so large that it nearly blocked the aisle. To stock the shelves with it would have been pointless. Soon word spread that the long-awaited rolls had arrived, and despite a government-imposed limit of one package per person, the checkout lines stretched all the way to the decimated dairy case in the back of the store.
“This is so depressing,” said Maria Plaza, 30, a lawyer, an hour and a half into her wait. “Pathetic.”
Depressing, in an otherwise bright, modern supermarket that sells $100 bottles of Spanish wine, Jack Daniel’s whiskey and organic rice puffs.
Pathetic, in a country with the world’s largest petroleum reserves and oil prices at nearly $95 a barrel, yet unable to supply basic goods because of its crumbling local currency and a shortage of U.S. dollars.
“Soon we’ll be using newspaper, just like they do in Cuba!” said an elderly man nearby, inching forward in line. “Yeah! Like Cuba!” others shouted.
The fate of Venezuela’s revolution, it seems, will be decided at the supermarket.
Nearly a year after Chávez’s death of complications from cancer at age 58, his handpicked successor, Nicolás Maduro, is struggling to contain food shortages, spiraling inflation and rampant crime.
The arrival of basic staples such as cooking oil, chicken, flour or milk brings Venezuelans running to supermarkets and touches off surreal mob scenes, even as the government imposes price caps and rationing to prevent hoarding.
Maduro squeaked past opposition candidate Henrique Capriles in April’s presidential election, and Maduro’s United Socialist Party won enough races in Dec. 8 local elections to push back against perceptions that Chávez loyalists were deserting him. Just before the vote, with television cameras rolling, he sent soldiers into an appliance store accused of price gouging and ordered huge markdowns on televisions and microwaves. Apparently it gave his party a final boost at the polls.
Only the shortages and overall sense of unraveling seemed to have worsened since then.
Each day the arrival of a new item at Excelsior Gama brought Venezuelans flooding into the store: for flour, beef, sugar. Store employees and security guards helped themselves to the goods first, clogging the checkout lines, and then had to barricade the doors to hold back the surge at the entrance.
“The store owners are doing this on purpose, to increase sales,” said Marjorie Urdaneta, a government supporter who said she believes Maduro when he accuses businesses of colluding with foreign powers to wage “economic war” against him.
“He should tell the stores: Make these items available — or else,” she said.
But store managers said they are putting scarce, price-capped supplies out on the floor as soon as they arrive from government-run distribution centers.
obviously never heard of just allowing business to compete, he should open government stores, that would bring down prices
More classy Democrats...
Not to be outdone...Quote:
Ex-Rep. Joe Baca Calls Congresswoman Who Beat Him 'Some Bimbo'
Former Rep. Joe Baca (D-Calif.), who is seeking to return to Congress this year, referred to Rep. Gloria Negrete McLeod (D-Calif.) as "some bimbo" on Tuesday in an interview with The Hill.
McLeod, who beat Baca in 2012 with the backing of then-New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, announced this week that she would be retiring after only one term. Baca told The Hill that he is running in a different district this year, but that Bloomberg and the DCCC made a mistake in campaigning against him.
"Look at what we wound up with: Some bimbo who decided not to run again," he said.
McLeod's office did not immediately respond to calls for comment.
Baca apologized later on Tuesday
“I wanted to apologize for my poor choice of words," he told The Hill. "I was just upset the district lost a representative in a short period of time. To me, that's a disservice to the area. I do apologize for my poor choice of words."
Baca has a history of making offensive comments about female members of Congress. In 2007, Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) quit the Congressional Hispanic Caucus after Baca, then the caucus' chairman, allegedly called her a "whore."
"I'm not going to be a part of the CHC as long as Mr. Baca illegally holds the chair… I told them no," she told Politico at the time. "There's a big rift here. You treat the women like sh*t. I have no use for him."
Baca is currently running in a Democratic primary against Eloise Gomez Reyes and Pete Aguilar in California's 31st district. Reyes, an attorney, has raised $302,000 so far, and Aguilar, the mayor of Redlands, Calif., has raised $147,000. Baca, meanwhile, has raised only $20,000.
"Congressman Baca's continued disrespect for women is outrageous," said Aguilar, who is backed by the DCCC. "We might expect this type of behavior from House Republicans, but not from a Democrat seeking to represent Inland Empire families. Joe Baca should be ashamed of himself."
More from CBS Chicago. Oops, did I say Chicago?Quote:
HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) — Just over a year ago, former U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds tried to shed past disgrace with a potent campaign slogan: "Redemption."
It didn't work then and now Reynolds, once a rising star in the Democratic Party whose career collapsed when he was convicted of rape two decades ago, is under arrest again, this time for allegedly possessing pornography and violating immigration laws in Zimbabwe.
Reynolds, who had won some prominence in Zimbabwe for helping draw investment to hotel and office projects, was being held in custody and was expected to appear in court soon, immigration official Ario Mabika said Tuesday.
The ex-politician, who lost his seat in Congress almost two decades ago because of the statutory rape conviction, was arrested Monday by police and immigration officials at a Harare hotel, according to the state-controlled newspaper, The Herald. He allegedly brought several Zimbabwean models and other women to his hotel room where he took photographs and videos.
I know, I know, it's ok if Democrats behave badly because it's Republicans waging the real war on women. Carry on.Quote:
Another source told the paper Reynolds had filmed more than 100 videos, and shot 2,000 nude pictures of at least 10 different women on various occasions. The paper also said he owes more than $24,000 in unpaid hotel bills.
Everything is about Obama, even Women's History Month.
It's come to this...
Massachusetts Court Rules It's Legal To Take Upskirt Photos On Public Transit
Hello again, Steve:
I see your right wing knee jerked... Well, that's why I'm here..
The issue appears to be a law that hasn't kept up with technology. The ruling was correct.. The legislature simply needs to update the law, and upskirting will be illegal once again..
You can relax.. Judges aren't saying that creepy behavior is good.
excon
I can read, I disagree with the ruling.
An upskirt by definition is generally not "in plain view." Any woman should have a reasonable expectation of privacy up her skirt unless she sits legs spread, but then I would think you "war on women" experts would agree with that.Quote:
"In sum, we interpret the phrase, 'a person who is ... partially nude' in the same way that the defendant does, namely, to mean a person who is partially clothed but who has one or more of the private parts of body exposed in plain view at the time that the putative defendant secretly photographs her," the high court ruled.
The White House war on women continues.
Female White House Staffers Got Smaller Raises Than Men - Business Insider
Even when women were promoted ,they received smaller raises.
Just reading the source proves that your headline is wrong.
the question really is if the information is accurate . But if the source makes a difference ,then here is the Compost article linked in the story
Male-female pay gap remains entrenched at White House - The Washington Post
Nobody can accuse the Washington comPost as being hostile to anything liberal. I don't think they have found fault with anything Obama has ever done more than 2 or three times... and even then they went easy on him.
Yes it's a local paper to me, one of two... yes I see it every day... I am qualified to make that statement.
it's cultural get used to it
You didn't even check the source. It linked the White House's numbers and WaPo's analysis. If you had an ounce of intellectual integrity you'd dispute the facts, but you can't.Quote:
Just reading the source proves that your headline is wrong.
Of course I did or else I wouldn't have posted. This is the source:Quote:
You didn't even check the source.
2014 Annual Report to Congress on White House Staff | The White House
What are you using to base your judgement?
It's the same exact source Weekly Standard used. You would have known that had you checked, in the first paragraph.
Attachment 46280
Stop relying on other people to do your thinking for you. Look at the data, it doesn't support their conclusion.
At least I think, as opposed to this:
P.S. I fail to see hos the data doesn't support the conclusion. Perhaps you can spell it out for us. Show us your math.Quote:
Just reading the source proves that your headline is wrong.
The data is inconclusive at best because even though the WH has more men working in total the salaries by position are equal for men and women and even better than figures for the general population. Also in reviewing data one snapshot is not enough to show a trend or reach a conclusion since staffers experience a higher turnover ratio than the private sector or general population.
In addition there was no account for the available pool of applicants to chose from which would be a major factor in any final hiring choice by position, so the data is too narrow for anything but conjecture and the math is incomplete. Biased? One could certainly think it possible.
The weekly standard never compared this WH to previous WHs so then what's the point? 13% difference is better than the average for white women, and certainly is better than the 27% for non white women. Cristol's data is to narrow to be empirical.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3038806.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-0...rs-ago/4931996
http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghanca...ings-by-state/
What’s the difference? Hypocrisy, and it isn’t Kristol’s data, it’s the regime’s own data and it’s been consistently hypocritical. Had this been Bush you’d be all over him.
The nags from NOW are demanding Obama issue an EO to enforce the contraception mandate, while a clueless Barbara Boxer says SCOTUS is waging a war on women because they didn't allow companies to opt out of Viagra coverage or something.
Um, Viagra is not an abortifacient, coverage wasn't mandated, religious people have sex (and other conditions Viagra treats like pulmonary hypertension), and the president is not a dictator. Get over yourselves people, it isn't all about you.Quote:
“I do not know of any employer that is dropping coverage for Viagra,” Boxer said on the Senate floor. “I don’t. I’ve asked around, I’ve been on TV, I’ve invited folks to let me know. Oh no, Viagra’s fine. Birth control is not fine.
as you see ;the Dems have nothing left ;so they are relying on their old playbook ... stoking up a phony "war on women" and the race card . Meanwhile here in NY there is about to be a major rail strike. So Jr Cuomo smugly says "NYers have survived worse ;and DiBlassio ...head of the Sandanista wing of the Dems .... decides to go on a 10 day vacation to Italy in the middle of the strike . Now there's competent leadership !
I think the emperor calls that “leading from behind”.
I think the emperor likes "getting it" from behind.
I bet you do. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I'd wager a bet that I would like it significantly less than you would.
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