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My solution is to NEVER NEED an abortion, not even at 20 weeks. Yours is to let it go until its too late and the hollering starts. We have the science and technology. We just don't use it properly to be effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
No mine is also to not " need " an abortion . But the solution to that isn't how many sundry items or prescription drugs you can dispense.
That should be up to a doctor NOT a lawmaker with no scientific training or background. Or one that doesn't even believe in science or fears his right flank. I mean a pill the next day to save YEARS of frustration and expense and CONFLICTS is not a sundry item in my book. Nor is going to a private physician in a clean clinical setting at 6 weeks.
Admittedly there is no quick fix, but subjecting the debate to one set of principles, beliefs, or ideology is not conducive to changing bad conditions or situations. Now if you had said a victim should seek immediate care and support and follow through then you may have me hooked so define 'reported' so its palatable to those NOT on the far right.
Maybe your presentation and implementation scares the hell out of people. FEAR is the distraction. I know women who have been traumatized by rape for years, and were not even pregnant.
Like Kathleen Sebilius or the emperor ?Quote:
That should be up to a doctor NOT a lawmaker with no scientific training or background.
Did you know that many of those enlightened European countries like Italy, have a limit of 12 weeks with the usual exceptions, and that more and more doctors are refusing to perform abortions at all for conscience' sake? I bet that number continues to rise thanks to Gosnell.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
This country has some of the most permissive abortion laws in the world and with every post it's becoming more and more clear your middle ground means adopting your position.
Since Daniel Snyder has indicated he intends to never change the name of his team it's come to this...
Dear Editors: Ban Redkins
NFL needs to just designate a name change for one of the teams to 'Pale Faces'
Lol, I think the Jets could use a makeover.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Woody Johnson is such a media whore ;and runs his team like a circus... I'm sure that change is right up his alley .
It's come to this...
Mick Jagger Tells DC Concert Crowd: 'I Don't Think Obama Is Here But I'm Sure He's Listening In'
Word is Obama was booed heartily when his name was mentioned. When you've lost the stoner crowd...
P.S. I didn't know Mick was a "closet conservative."
Hello again, Steve:
Nobody likes being lied to.
excon
Closet ? He is secretly a proud conservative . He got that by running the operations of what is essentially a franchise... The Strolling Bones .Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
What Mick Jagger knows about making money in music - CSMonitor.com
Hello again,
He IS a grad of the London School of Economics.
excon
Speaking of Obama's pivot to climate change, they're circling the wagons and prepping supporters on how to head fake the people while they get screwed.
Who's up for their energy costs necessarily skyrocketing? You think all those people we heard about just yesterday living paycheck to paycheck are all in, or does Obama even care that we need jobs, not higher electric bills?Quote:
Obama Allies Urge Environmental Activists to Avoid Economic Arguments
A talking points memo sent Monday night ahead of President Obama’s speech Tuesday on climate change tells Obama supporters to downplay economic arguments and words like “regulations.”
The memo, obtained by National Journal, includes a “do’s and don’t’s” list of phrases to use (and not use) when advocating for action on climate change. “Do discuss modernizing and retooling power plants and innovation that will create green jobs…Don’t try to suggest net job increases,” reads one part of the memo.
Ken Berlin, chair of the Energy & Environment Team, a group of national, state and local energy and climate leaders, distributed the memo to his group of about 1,300 people who have organized around these issues for the Obama campaign.
Berlin said the memo was written by the Climate Action Coalition, a new coalition of most major environmental groups. He added the umbrella group is coordinated in part by Kevin Curtis, who is also affiliated with The Climate Reality Project, an advocacy group founded by environmentalist and former Vice President Al Gore. A call to Curtis was not immediately returned.
More from the 14-page memo’s “do’s and don’t’s” list: “Do inform audiences about the nature of the problem, who is at fault, and what can be done…Don’t debate the increase in electricity rates. Instead pivot to health & clean air message.” Another one says: “Do use ‘cutting carbon pollution from power plants’…Don’t use ‘regulations to control greenhouse gas emissions from power plants.’ ”
Berlin acknowledged that although one could read the talking points as pivoting away from the economy, that’s not what the memo meant.
“Essentially, we think the priority arguments to make are the ones that climate change is having an impact now, hurting people now, hurting the economy now,” Berlin told National Journal Tuesday afternoon.
In his speech Tuesday, Obama stressed that combating climate change and growing the economy should not be an “either/or” proposition. “It’s both/and,” Obama said. “We’ve got to look after our children; we have to look after our future; and we have to grow the economy and create jobs.”
Nonetheless, talking points like the one in this memo could further inflame the already incendiary debate around what role Washington should fill in combating global warming. Republicans in Congress maintain that it is an either/or proposition with climate and the economy.
“This is not a problem that calls for a one size fits all solution. Ohio knows this better than most, since more than 80 percent of our electricity comes from coal generation,” said Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, in a statement after Obama’s speech. “This new regulation could raise costs for Ohio families, many of whom are struggling to make ends meet.”
Hey that's almost like the guy who gave us the job creator spin for greedy rich guys, and the way for you guys to talk about rape (don't say anything). Its called priority of talking points and we all do it don't we?
So you're OK with deceiving and screwing the American people after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I don't go along with your characterization. Unless it applies equally to both sides.
I don't like any of 'em lying to me, is that equal enough? I'm particularly tired of Obama blowing smoke about the middle class while screwing them in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
It's come to this...
I don't think there is any amount of money that would satisfy me if some perv teacher spoon-fed his semen to my kid. But hey, this is what you get when you can't fire bad teachers, right? Even this guy got $40k payoff.Quote:
Alleged victims of abuse at Miramonte Elementary have until July 5 to accept recent settlement offers from the Los Angeles Unified School District, officials said Tuesday.
The school district pressed its point with a new website that emphasized that fact with a countdown clock clicking toward the deadline second by second.
"The reason we’re setting up the website is to provide information to the community -- both to the community at Miramonte and to the taxpaying community at large," said Sean Rossall, an L.A. Unified spokesman.
"There is a finite time on these offers," he said. "The idea is not to ratchet up the pressure, but to make sure the community understands there are deadlines on this.”
Attorneys representing alleged victims have accused the district of trying to strong-arm their clients into settling for less than they deserve. They have scheduled a news conference for Wednesday morning to respond.
The damage claims stem from allegations that former teacher Mark Berndt spoon-fed his semen to blindfolded students as part of what he called a "tasting game," among other alleged incidents of abusive conduct.
If someone did that to me of one of my family... losing his job would be the least of his worries.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
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