excon and tal will argue they never said that... just wait... its coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
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excon and tal will argue they never said that... just wait... its coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I have no clue who said what you said, no names where mentioned but the article does substantiate the fact that no one was close enough to help. Had he been in Tripoli, we wouldn't be here would we?
All those geniuses couldn't take cover for the one day of the year that stuff get hairy, and did all over the place?
Oh I get it . It's Stevens fault he got killed .
He's been implying that all week.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
If I were his boss and given the lack of security and Steven's propensity to ditch his security entourage I would have ordered him to Tripoli and had the marines sit on him for a week. That's my outrage over the matter.
Maybe they thought 30 CIA, and a few local types were enough, I do NOT! Nor do I think he would have been safe in Benghazi after 9/11, today, or any other day.
Oh we know Benghazi was not safe enough for a State Dept outpost . What does that tell you about what was really going on there ?
Since you're the one that keeps wanting to know why Stevens was there, amongst the other speculations we know this much from Hicks testimony...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
There you have it, Stevens was there because Hillary needed his report before the end of the fiscal year for her little project, which according to hearsay from some other potential whistleblowers was cleaning up her mess from wanting to “overthrow Gaddafi on the cheap.”Quote:
Benghazi witness points finger at Clinton on lapses in consulate security
The star witness in the Benghazi investigation said former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton personally ordered Ambassador Chris Stevens to set up a permanent post in the restive city and should have known about deteriorating security.
The revelations from the second-ranking U.S. diplomat in Libya at the time come as the audit that cleared the former secretary of State of any wrongdoing has come under fire for not interviewing Clinton or her top lieutenants.
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Gregory Hicks, who briefly took over as head of mission when Stevens and three other Americans were killed, testified on May 8 that Clinton personally ordered the ambassador to turn Benghazi into a full consular post, and that she planned to announce the upgrade during a visit in December.
Hicks’s attorney has been drawing attention to that section of his testimony, which was overshadowed by revelations that no one at the U.S. embassy in Libya believed the terrorist attack was preceded by a peaceful protest, and that the Pentagon told a special operations team to stand down.
“According to Stevens, Secretary Clinton wanted Benghazi converted into a permanent constituent post,” Hicks testified.
“Timing for this decision [to visit the region on Sept. 11] was important. Chris needed to report before Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year, on the … political and security environment in Benghazi.”
He said Pickering appeared “surprised.”
“I did tell the Accountability Review Board that Secretary Clinton wanted the post made permanent,” Hicks testified.
“Ambassador Pickering looked surprised. He looked both ways … to the members of the board, saying, ‘Does the seventh floor [the secretary of State’s office] know about this?’ ”
The ARB appears to have ignored Hicks’s statement in its public report. Instead, the board appeared to place responsibility on Stevens.
Read more: Benghazi witness points finger at Clinton on lapses in consulate security - The Hill's Global Affairs
Not looking pretty for Hillary right now...
Beat me to it . I was going to post Hicks testimony today. But Evita's desire for a permanent Benghazi consulate only partly explains why he was there . There is still that meeting with the Turkish diplomat an hour before the attack.
Hello again, Steve:
I wonder if the realization that Hillary is going to run for president has anything to do with your SWITCHEROO from demonizing Obama to demonizing Clinton...Quote:
Not looking pretty for Hillary right now...
Nahhhh... Republicans would NEVER do that..
Excon
It would've been the crowning achievement of her otherwise miserable term as Sec State. Me ? I never miss a chance to take on Evita and her record.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Dude, you never take advantage of opportunities? Yeah, you do, the difference between us is I don't make sh*t up, I follow the facts where they take me and right now they're not looking good for Hillary are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I am sure your facts will fit your spin regardless. Mine do! :)
Ex they weren't loking good for Hillary right from the start, this is surely why she retired from the position, didn't want it to ruin her chances laterQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Hello again, clete:
In right wing fantasy land, that's true.. But, there's not a Democrat who can touch her, and Republicans will NEVER win a national election again, unless they fix what's wrong.Quote:
Ex they weren't loking good for Hillary right from the start
And, they're NOT fixing it. They're making it worse... Bwa, ha ha ha.
Excon
As if dems have fixed anything? Bwa ha ha!
Hello again, Steve:
Uhh, whatdawe need to fix? The American people voted FOR the Democrats by a LOT. Where were you?Quote:
As if dems have fixed anything
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Excon
It ain't broke?
Hello again, Steve:
Couple things.Quote:
It ain't broke?
That government workers screw up ISN'T a Democrat problem. It's not even an Obama problem unless and until it's PROVEN that he ordered the IRS to target his enemy's..
Now you guys THINK it's true, but you're the only ones...
That four men were killed in an attack ISN'T a Democrat problem, and it's not even an Obama problem. It's NEVER going to be an Obama or Clinton problem..
Now, you guys THINK it is, but you're the only ones who do.
That the Government is targeting whistleblowers at the AP, is something somebody who thinks Julian Assange is a scumbag would LOVE. You're one of those, aren't you?
That you don't is kind of funny, doncha think? You HATE Obama, but you HATE whistleblowers... Poor right winger.. You can't decide WHICH side to hate more.
Bwa, ha ha ha.
The progressive ideas that garnered MORE votes than your side did are alive and well. Now, you guys THINK they're not, but you're the only ones.
Excon
Ex I agree there is a great big show going on in Washington and all it needs to make it a three ring circus is the tent, however if you are pinning your hopes on Hilary, I suspect that she has acquired some unfortunate baggage, she would have done far better to have been vice president if she holds aspirations, less opportunity to have shlt stickQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
Ex, if nothing else your fairy tales are entertaining
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