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Same reason as the time you asked. He was a mediocre candidate, but not nearly so much as the most inept, unqualified, and thoroughly dishonest candidate to run in my lifetime, and that of course was the "hero of Benghazi", the queen of emails, Ms. Hillary Clinton.Quote:
Just ask JL why he is still holding his nose two years after the dufus won.
But it is still good to hear from you, Tal. We retired folks do have to stick together.
I guess it's the Dufus's turn in the barrel.
What a big deal, Donald the Dump answering questions, I hear you have the much used fifth amendment
I don't think it's just the Dufus. There is a sword hanging over the heads of his family as well. Mueller got Manafort caught up in a money paper trail, and a president who pleads the 5th... I don't know if he gets away with that. Justice Dept has a lot of leverage even though the dufus has a snitch and sycophant embedded, and a Kavanaughed Supreme Court. Let's not forget he lost his sycophants in the House, and is still losing more as votes are certified, and the opposition grows and who knows what other rat jumps ship, or walks the planks in the coming weeks.
I might not have time for Netflix for a while.
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yup keep counting until you get the results you want . Very convenientPalm Beach Co commish Susan Bucher delaying handing in the machine recount past the deadline triggering a mandated hand count .I don't recall Trump pleading the 5th .This is more strawman building.
You object to the counting of all the votes cast Tom? It would probably go faster with some updated reliable counting equipment rather than some old outdated stuff whose maker no longer exists, and less voter suppression tactics by repubs in the first place. Repubs have had 8 years to fix the system and they clearly have failed. The whole notion of not counting all votes is as absurd as the claims of fraud that repubs have spewed for decades now.
Clete never said the dufus has pleaded the 5th, but he does have a right as Mueller's investigation continues and he ties Stone, Assange, and the dufus together.Quote:
What a big deal, Donald the Dump answering questions, I hear you have the much used fifth amendment
You see it is easy to get verballed here, and just as easy for Trump I suspect, there are two question, what did he know, and what didn't he know and any answer he gives will be misinterpreted, so the fifth is the better optionQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
That's just what the dufus gets for running his big mouth without engaging his brain or EARS first. He's been told to shut up and stay off twitter, but still he persists.
Oh well. Another one bites the dust! Nelson concedes.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bil...manual-recount
Yes I do because provisional ballots were never verified that the people casting those ballots were eligible to vote .Quote:
You object to the counting of all the votes cast Tom?
Trump never plead the 5th . He has written responses to Mueller's inquiry and will submit them this week. No doubt Inspector Clouseau will try to build a perjury charge based on Trump's responses . The one thing that is clear is that the original cause for investigation Russia-gate has no merit .
Those provisional ballots were probably voters purged by repubs suppressing the vote.
Exactly correct, especially the part about Russia-gate.Quote:
Trump never plead the 5th . He has written responses to Mueller's inquiry and will submit them this week. No doubt Inspector Clouseau will try to build a perjury charge based on Trump's responses . The one thing that is clear is that the original cause for investigation Russia-gate has no merit .
Drink more Kool aid if you're going to let the dufus feed you that rotted meat!
Says the man who believed every word out of the mouth of Obama and Clinton.Quote:
Drink more Kool aid if you're going to let the dufus feed you that rotted meat!
Those provisional ballots were people who could not prove they were eligible to vote in that district ......period .
Or didn't know they had been purged. I think they have a time limit to prove they should be counted, but of course by then it would be too late. Nice plan to suppress the vote by repubs, a craft they have perfected over the years. They should enjoy it while it lasts as that pendulum seems to be swing back the other way.
You seem to believe that everyone too disinterested or lazy (or whatever) to keep track of their eligibility to vote must certainly have been a sure-fire democrat vote.Quote:
Or didn't know they had been purged. I think they have a time limit to prove they should be counted, but of course by then it would be too late. Nice plan to suppress the vote by repubs, a craft they have perfected over the years.
Repubs think they are and that's what counts. They drew the maps up so likely they know who lives where.
Why would Republicans suppress Republican votes?
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Nice plan to suppress the vote by repubs, a craft they have perfected over the years.
60 million people voted Democrat IN A MIDTERM. Republicans are the worst vote suppressors EVER.
The 1993 National Voter Registration Act mandates that state and local elections officers keep voter registration lists accurate by removing the names of people who die, move or fail in successive elections to vote. Voters who’ve been convicted of a felony, ruled mentally incompetent or found to be noncitizens also can be removed.(1993 both Houses of Congress were Democrat and the President was Bubba).
The primary thing to me is that YOU think they are. So you're saying that democrat voters are the ones most likely to be too stupid, lazy, indifferent, or whatever to keep up with their eligibility to vote. Interesting.Quote:
Repubs think they are and that's what counts.
A false premise based on faulty data. Why do you seem to ignore voter suppression, and Jim Crow tactics? Maybe it's a NORMAL thing in your state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_..._United_States
AND
https://www.sunherald.com/news/natio...220534340.html
Or maybe your great at holding your nose and will keep doing so in your OWN state election run off for the US senate?
I simply pointed out the logical conclusion from your own statement: "Or didn't know they had been purged. I think they have a time limit to prove they should be counted, but of course by then it would be too late. Nice plan to suppress the vote by repubs, a craft they have perfected over the years."
You are plainly implying that most of the voters who "didn't know they had been purged" would have voted democrat. That's not exactly a flattering statement about democrat voters. I have no sympathy for anyone who doesn't pay enough attention to keep up with their voter eligibility, especially in democratic strongholds where you can have been dead for years and yet still have your vote counted.
As for my state of Mississippi, we have more elected black individuals in government, including the mayors of most of our larger cities, than any other state. That would hardly be the consequence of "Jim Crow tactics". So if you are going to make a statement about it, at least try to make an informed one.
Those voters were purged BECAUSE they had voted Democrat in the past.Quote:
You are plainly implying that most of the voters who "didn't know they had been purged" would have voted democrat.
If there was any proof of that, then they would all be in court by this afternoon.Quote:
Those voters were purged BECAUSE they had voted Democrat in the past.
BTW, how would you, or anyone else, have known how those people voted on a secret ballot?
Oh come on dude, I plainly SPECIFIED your stateWIDE races, which is a nuanced difference between the locals that give the state election officials a great database to target certain zip codes. You seem rather oblivious to those nuanced targeted tactics of your own state officials.
Now would be a great time to let your nose go and achieve a broader view of a BIGGER picture than just your own narrow perspective. Take no offense as there is none intended, as conservative repubs and dems alike tend to not want any kind of sweeping changes that improve the lots of the collective being comfortable with what the world is to them. I place no blame or fault for that position as what human happy with the way it is considers those that are not, or even listen and acknowledge there may be an issue.
Such transitions of the human condition are never smooth, or popular, though changes and adjustments are inevitable for evolution and survival. In Mississippi specifically, if you can hold your nose and vote for Hyde Smith after she joked about lynching and suppressing votes of the others...go for it.
Would shock me at all!
No, you did not. "Why do you seem to ignore voter suppression, and Jim Crow tactics? Maybe it's a NORMAL thing in your state."Quote:
I plainly SPECIFIED your stateWIDE races,
As to the senate race, which is the ONLY specific reference you made, if the dems would run a Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, or Dr. Ben Carson instead of the amazingly corrupt Mike Espy, they would probably be winning now. It is a matter of policy, not of race.
You need to start checking your facts. She has made no jokes at all about lynching. As to jokes about suppressing votes, I have never even heard the allegation made until you made it. Where are you getting that from?Quote:
vote for Hyde Smith after she joked about lynching and suppressing votes of the others...go for it.
Of course you are fine with Espy getting paid 400k for one month's work for an African dictator who is now on trial for crimes against humanity and afterwards lied about it. Yes, that is fine.
https://www.sunherald.com/news/polit...221738685.html
No, because they are brown and black people who don't know what power they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Because gerrymandering in Illinois is a popular Republican sport. Have watched that sport for years. Suppressing votes and purging voters are popular pastimes.Quote:
BTW, how would you, or anyone else, have known how those people voted on a secret ballot?
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-voting-995510
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cont...ry?id=59256622
I guess it still silly season in Mississippi.
Yeah. I'm sure the democrat party would just stand around with their hands in their pockets and do nothing. You are living in the America of fifty years ago.Quote:
No, because they are brown and black people who don't know what power they have.
Uhm...Perhaps you can explain how the repubs are doing that when the dems are FIRMLY in control of both houses of the Illinois legislature.Quote:
Because gerrymandering in Illinois is a popular Republican sport.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-voting-995510
Did you bother to read this? It seems to support the contention that Hyde-Smith was taken out of context. Even the quote they provide doesn't support your allegation.
In the meantime, you are content with Espy's corruption, and considering you voted for Clinton, that is not surprising.
It was a sneak attack by Republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Republicans want back the control they lost.Quote:
Uhm...Perhaps you can explain how the repubs are doing that when the dems are FIRMLY in control of both houses of the Illinois legislature.
I've reached the conclusion we all are screwed up. Some a lot more than others.
So the republicans, who do not have control, have magically gerrymandered districts so the can regain control. Lunacy.Quote:
Republicans want back the control they lost.
Looking at my reply an hour later, "Lunacy" is a mean-sounding response. My apologies. I do think your reasoning, however, is not as well thought out as it could be.
Just about right.Quote:
I've reached the conclusion we all are screwed up. Some a lot more than others.
mandates that state and local elections officers keep voter registration lists accurate byQuote:
Why do you seem to ignore voter suppression, and Jim Crow tactics? Maybe it's a NORMAL thing in your state.
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Those voters were purged BECAUSE they had voted Democrat in the past.
The 1993 National Voter Registration Actremoving the names of people who die, move or fail in successive elections to vote.Voters who’ve been convicted of a felony, ruled mentally incompetent or found to be noncitizens also can be removed.(1993 both Houses of Congress were Democrat and the President was Bubba).
My rep was gerrymandered out of office years ago. My current rep is in a solid Dem district who ran unopposed and will now chair the very powerful House Appropriations Committee . But I am not represented in Congress at all. She lives in a different county on the other side of the Hudson river from my town. My vote was suppressed years ago.Quote:
Because gerrymandering in Illinois is a popular Republican sport. Have watched that sport for years. Suppressing votes and purging voters are popular pastimes.
Yup. They redraw the boundaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That's what all the lawsuits have been about. What? You haven't been keeping up? Maybe this will get you caught up and currentQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/unpac...ndering-cases/
https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/redistricting
@Tom
Provisional Ballots Protect Voting Rights — When They Are Counted
In addition... https://www.justice.gov/crt/about-na...gistration-act
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The Act also requires notification of all applicants of whether their voter registration applications were accepted or rejected. The Act requires States to keep voter registration lists accurate and current, such as identifying persons who have become ineligible due to having died or moved outside the jurisdiction. At the same time, the Act requires list maintenance programs to incorporate specific safeguards, e.g., that they be uniform, non-discriminatory, in compliance with the Voting Rights Act, and not be undertaken within 90 days of a federal election. The removal of voters for non-voting or for having moved can only be done after meeting certain requirements provided in the Act. The Act allows for removal of voters from registration lists when they have been convicted of a disqualifying crime or adjudged mentally incapacitated, where such removals are allowed by state law. The NVRA also provides additional safeguards under which registered voters would be able to vote notwithstanding a change in address in certain circumstances. For example, voters who move within a district or a precinct will retain the right to vote even if they have not re-registered at their new address. The NVRA became effective in most states on January 1, 1995. The Act applies to 44 states and the District of Columbia.Section 4(b)of the Act provided that states were exempt from the Act if, as of August 1, 1994, they had no voter registration requirements or had election-day registration at polling places. These six states are Idaho, Minnesota, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. In addition, the Act granted additional time to Arkansas, Vermont, and Virginia to comply because they needed to change their constitutions in order to comply with the Act and maintain a unitary registration system for federal and state elections.
If you are going to put up links, at least take the time to read them and be sure they actually have something to do with Illinois. I'm not going to read your links anymore. It's just plain nonsense.Quote:
That's what all the lawsuits have been about. What? You haven't been keeping up? Maybe this will get you caught up and current.
Yes. The democrats in power redrew the boundaries so the repubs could gain power. That certainly makes a lot of sense.Quote:
Yup. They redraw the boundaries.
LOL, of course its nonsense to you since you cannot relate federal law to state law nor comprehend the differences. You would actually have to look up the state you want to reference and being a Texan (Transplanted from right outside Chicago) at this stage of life why the heck would I argue what goes on in freakin Illinois? Heck you can barely keep up with YOUR state rules and regs, and tricks and traps.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Okay, Lets start you off real slow with the basics
https://www.bettergov.org/news/gerry...ntional-wisdom
Repubs redraw boundaries -- Illinois, in Chicago, on Native American reservations, wherever there are large groups of people who tend to vote Dem.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Your arguments make no sense at all considering that the discussion was ABOUT Illinois. And I'm finished with your aimless links.Quote:
LOL, of course its nonsense to you since you cannot relate federal law to state law nor comprehend the differences. You would actually have to look up the state you want to reference and being a Texan (Transplanted from right outside Chicago) at this stage of life why the heck would I argue what goes on in freakin Illinois? Heck you can barely keep up with YOUR state rules and regs, and tricks and traps.
Yes. I'm sure that's what happened. The democrat controlled state legislature redrew the district lines to benefit the republican minority. Of course. It all makes perfectly good sense. And then they all flew over to Never Never Land and visited with Peter Pan.Quote:
Repubs redraw boundaries -- Illinois, in Chicago, on Native American reservations, wherever there are large groups of people who tend to vote Dem.
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