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  • Oct 25, 2012, 04:49 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    Quote:

    I suspect the time frame would've been fine any other year .
    I suspect you're right.

    Excon
  • Oct 25, 2012, 06:28 AM
    speechlesstx
    Until the next election then you'll whine and moan all over again.
  • Oct 25, 2012, 06:42 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    What is a resonable time frame ? The PA law was passed in the spring. I suspect the time frame would've been fine any other year . Your guys played prevent defense and delay ... and then complain there isn't enough time .

    There you go, blaming US for YOUR screw UP!! Had you done it right in the first place, we wouldn't be able to delay, or play prevent defense. NOOOO, you guys where in such a hurry to get it in place to defeat Obama, you screwed it up!

    Its like the debt ceiling crisis last summer that cost us a credit ratings drop, and led to a stop gap deal, and this coming sequester. Your zeal to push your agenda has screwed up everything, and its come back to bite you in the butt.

    When do you guys take responsibility for YOUR own actions, starting with GWB?
  • Oct 25, 2012, 06:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    When do you guys take responsibility for YOUR own actions, starting with GWB?
    That's funny coming from the side who still blames Bush for everything and won't take responsibility for anything except what anyone would do, kill bin Laden.

    Back to that voter fraud thing... Rep Jim Moran's son was caught:

    Quote:

    Project Veritas has released a new investigation that exposes Representative Jim Moran’s Field Director, Patrick Moran, conspiring to commit election fraud.

    When approached by an undercover investigator for advice on how to steal the votes of more than 100 people, Moran advised falsifying documents to satisfy Virginia’s new voter ID law. He said, “Bank statement obviously would be tough, but they can fake a utility bill with ease.”

    Moran went on to clarify that, “You’d have to forge it.”

    Announcing the release, James O’Keefe said, “This is the most damning evidence to date of the scope of voter fraud in this country. Patrick Moran is not only the son of an 11-term Congressman, but is also the Field Director on his father’s re-election campaign.

    “If anyone should be opposed to voter fraud it’s him. Yet he actively encouraged our investigator to forge documents and pose as a pollster to disenfranchise registered voters in Virginia, Washington, D.C. and Maryland.”
  • Oct 25, 2012, 06:51 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Rep Jim Moran's son was caught
    "Caught" at what exactly?
  • Oct 25, 2012, 06:54 AM
    talaniman
    No one can correct an 8 year mistake in 4 especially when you guys won't help, and are part of the problem.
  • Oct 25, 2012, 07:04 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    "Caught" at what exactly?
    Can't you read? "Conspiring to commit election fraud" is what.

    Quote:

    No one can correct an 8 year mistake in 4 especially when you guys won't help, and are part of the problem.
    Tal, keep fooling yourself but America doesn't buy that tired, old line
  • Oct 25, 2012, 07:08 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    "Conspiring to commit election fraud" is what.
    Has he been charged? It sounds like a nasty offence.
  • Oct 25, 2012, 07:24 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Tal, keep fooling yourself but America doesn't buy that tired, old line

    YOU guys don't buy the truth, or the facts.

    But you buy the Romney lies! Before he agreed with the president of course!
  • Oct 25, 2012, 07:32 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Has he been charged? It sounds like a nasty offence.
    As usual you ignore the issue in trying to make a puerile point.
  • Oct 25, 2012, 07:32 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    As usual you ignore the issue in trying to make a puerile point.
    Why are you dodging a valid question?
  • Oct 25, 2012, 07:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Why are you dodging a valid question?
    I gave you all the information needed from the start, look it up yourself.
  • Nov 4, 2012, 06:14 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Thank goodness I'm watching FOX. I've been wondering what the reason is that the Secretary of State in Ohio wanted to eliminate 3 days of early voting... I've even asked here several times. Steve says he TOLD me, but I couldn't find it...

    Anyway, FOX told me this morning that the very reasonable Secretary of State wanted to eliminate those voting days simply to give the poor, over worked poll workers TIME to count the votes.

    Well, now.. Who could complain about THAT?

    Floridians USED to be able to vote TODAY, but Republican governor Rick Scott ended it. I STILL don't know why. Is HE looking out for the poll workers too? Or, is he suppressing the vote?

    excon
  • Nov 4, 2012, 08:56 PM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    "Caught" at what exactly?


    Good question.

    "Project Veritas has released a new investigation that exposes Representative Jim Moran's Field Directing, Patric Moran conspiring to commit election fraud"

    This statement is false and misleading. It will be a determination of the courts at a later date to decide if a crime of conspiracy has been committed.

    What Veritas should have said is they have evidence of an alleged conspiracy.

    Steve, can't you find any decent standards of journalism to post? This one was pathetic in its entirety.

    Tut
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:49 AM
    TUT317
    Just so there is no confusion regarding my above post.

    I realize that my quote was a question from N.K. to Speechless. I used NK's quote in my above post. However, my question to Speechless( Steve) at the end of my post is in relation to the original video and transcript posted by Steve.

    I am not referencing Steve as NK

    Tut
  • Nov 5, 2012, 05:57 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Everybody SAW the lines to vote. There were waits of 5, 6, and even 8 hours to vote.. What is the problem??

    Ahhha... The problem is REPUBLICANS... If THIS is the best they can do, they shouldn't even be allowed to pick up the trash... It IS on purpose, isn't it? They think they WIN when voter turnout is SMALL.

    MY state?? We have NO wait. NONE. We LOVE it when people vote. Of course, MY state is run by Democrats.

    excon
  • Nov 5, 2012, 07:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Steve, can't you find any decent standards of journalism to post? This one was pathetic in its entirety.
    Tut, if we had any decent standards of journalism left Obama would lose in a landslide. With a few exceptions they have failed to do their job and hold this administration accountable.

    Project Veritas' is not a media outlet so I'm not expecting them to be any more objective than say, Media Matters.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 07:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Everybody SAW the lines to vote.
    The lines are long because people want Obama out.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 08:13 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The lines are long because people want Obama out.

    Received in email this morning from a friend, "Kathy's son Jimmy stuck with it in Florida. The Republicans were trying to add steps and make people leave. He was there well over 2 hours and this was early voting. Wonder what other tricks are up the conservative sleeve."
  • Nov 5, 2012, 08:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Got anything more than an email? Not impressed.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 08:24 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Got anything more than an email? Not impressed.

    One example from a reliable person I know, and I am guessing there will be many more similar stories.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 08:29 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    Got anything more than an email? Not impressed.
    Well then these facts won't impress you either. Reality isn't one of your strong suits.

    Excon
  • Nov 5, 2012, 08:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    The reality is there wasn't supposed to be any early voting yesterday.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 08:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    One example from a reliable person I know, and I am guessing there will be many more similar stories.
    I've never voted where election workers could be identified as Republican or Democrat so I can only conclude this reliable person is making assumptions.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 11:09 AM
    talaniman
    Its reasonable to assume shenanigans are republican tactics. All the documented shenanigans this year have been from the right because that's what they do! I know a shameless partisan view. I am to lazy to post all those links this morning.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 11:24 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    The Republicans were trying to add steps and make people leave.
    Just waiting for documentation and not rumors.

    Quote:

    All the documented shenanigans this year have been from the right
    Except this guy, this lady, whoever this is, all these old Dems in NC...
  • Nov 5, 2012, 11:41 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Just waiting for documentation and not rumors.

    Not a rumor... have an email out to her for details. I know polling places have been shut down in certain areas and long lines caused some polling places to close and lock doors.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:03 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Just waiting for documentation and not rumors.



    Except this guy, this lady, whoever this is, all these old Dems in NC...

    None of these example rise to the level of republicans creating long lines for voters like in Florida, and Ohio. Seems 10 democratic shenanigans doesn't equal one of yours. You guys are really good at shenanigans.

    I mean really good and still one day left for more shenanigans and I am sure you fellows will not dissapoint.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:03 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    I know polling places have been shut down in certain areas and long lines caused some polling places to close and lock doors.
    That was addressed, there was not supposed to be any early voting yesterday.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:07 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That was addressed, there was not supposed to be any early voting yesterday.

    This was while polling places were open, but then shut down midstream.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:26 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That was addressed, there was not supposed to be any early voting yesterday.

    From my friend -- "Long lines and then they had to move to stations to verify signature and registration. He is in Miami."
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:29 PM
    speechlesstx
    By Florida law the polls weren't supposed to be open, which is one of the reasons for all the outrage in this thread... the left can't seem to agree to any rules when it comes to voting. Vote early, vote often, no matter who you are and if you don't get your way then throw a fit or threaten to blow the mfer up.

    Me, I follow the rules. Rules are good.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:34 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Me, I follow the rules. Rules are good.

    Florida opened the polls (so much for rules), then closed them, then reopened them because of the outcry. So much for rules.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:55 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    By Florida law the polls weren't supposed to be open, which is one of the reasons for all the outrage in this thread...the left can't seem to agree to any rules when it comes to voting. Vote early, vote often, no matter who you are and if you don't get your way then throw a fit or threaten to blow the mfer up.

    Me, I follow the rules. Rules are good.

    Only a NUT would wait 4 hours to vote, and then wait another 4 hours to vote again for a grand total of one fraudulent vote.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 12:59 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Florida opened the polls (so much for rules), then closed them, then reopened them because of the outcry. So much for rules.
    And that's why we have rules, so sh*t like this doesn't happen.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 02:33 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And that's why we have rules, so sh*t like this doesn't happen.

    Jimmy is a college student and was in line with many other college students, so profiling may be taking place.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 02:40 PM
    excon
    Hello, again:

    Republican voter suppression is in full view these days. I don't know. Maybe the Republicans are telling us the truth.. Maybe it's a logistics problem and NOT a voter suppression problem... Maybe there's just TOO many voters for the state to handle...

    Bwa, ha ha ha..

    In MY state, there's no wait.. Let me say that again.. We have NO wait. Voting is EASY. Of course, MY state is run by Democrats. We LOVE it when people vote... Republicans don't...

    Why do they have to cheat?

    excon
  • Nov 5, 2012, 02:41 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Jimmy is a college student and was in line with many other college students, so profiling may be taking place.
    LOL, you're a riot.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 02:54 PM
    tomder55
    Conspicuously absent from the States that allow early voting beyond absentee is the very populous and very blue state of NY . Also Mass. Is not on the list . Why are the Dems suppressing the vote in those states ?

    Answer ,they are not . There is no compelling reason to have early voting ,even in very populous states like New York. I haven't even heard any call to extend voting hours tomorrow despite the ravages of Sandy.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 02:58 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Answer ,they are not . There is no compelling reason to have early voting
    Exactly, their outrage is manufactured BS. As long as everyone in the state has to play by the same rules then they have nothing to stand on but faux outrage.

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