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Originally Posted by talaniman

Don't remember him claiming to be a lawyer. Didn't know he was a practicing one. I could be wrong. What's the point?

The point was that he lied under oath. He was asked if he ever used another name. According to records that we know of he started as Barry Sotoro. He went by that name all the way up to college. And later changed his name without any record of it being a legal name change.

Hello again, dad:

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The point was that he lied under oath. He was asked if he ever used another name.

Now we're getting somewhere... Got a link? I HATE lying under oath.

Excon

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Originally Posted by cdad

The point was that he lied under oath. He was asked if he ever used another name. According to records that we know of he started out as Barry Sotoro. He went by that name all the way up to college. And later changed his name without any record of it being a legal name change.

This? snopes.com: Barack Obama's Columbia University Student ID

Answer Man: Was Barack Obama ever Barry Soetoro? | Answer Man | News Democrat

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/...-beyond-silly/

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

This? snopes.com: Barack Obama's Columbia University Student ID

Answer Man: Was Barack Obama ever Barry Soetoro? | Answer Man | News Democrat

Why the idea that the President attended Columbia University as “Barry Soetoro” is beyond silly | Obama Conspiracy TheoriesObama Conspiracy Theories

Since his college transcripts are national secrets... I'm curious how they were able to prove he wasn't there under that name.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Since his college transcripts are national secrets...I'm curious how they were able to prove he wasn't there under that name.

If you saw Obama on his college transcripts, would that convince you?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

If you saw Obama on his college transcripts, would that convince you?

If we the public saw his college transcripts it would put a lot of questions to rest.

Hello again, smoothy, birther:

What questions would it satisfy? That he's smart? That he's stupid? It's going to be one or the other, and what difference would it make anyway?

Nooooo... I think the question you want answered is whether Obama is REALLY a citizen.

And, Carol brings up a good point.. IF the transcripts were revealed, there's NO WAY you'd accept them as real. Everybody knows that. Don't you?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy, birther:

What questions would it satisfy? That he's smart? That he's stupid? It's gonna be one or the other, and what difference would it make anyway?

Nooooo... I think the question you want answered is whether Obama is REALLY a citizen.

And, Carol brings up a good point.. IF the transcripts were revealed, there's NO WAY you'd accept them as real. Everybody knows that. Don't you?

excon

I haven't seen any proof he is smart... certainly not from his transcripts and his actions in office were those of a special ed student. No offense intended to the special ed students.

The year he got into college affirmative action was just starting and was working on Quota alone... not qualifications.

I happen to know this because we are only a few months apart in age and we both started college nearly the same time.

He got in because he applied... not because he had the grades.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

If we the public saw his college transcripts it would put a lot of questions to rest.

Like with his birth certificate?

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Bush was presented with a smoking gun, so was Nixon, where's yours for Obama?

What smoking gun in the Plame case ? Richard Armitage admitted early in the investigation that he inadvertently leaked Plame's name to Robert Novak . The rest of the investigation was a witch hunt by an over zealous prosecutor who spent months tilting at windmills until he finally caught Scotter Libby on some inconsistent testimony that he used to charge him with perjury.

If perjury is the bar we are going after ,there is already plenty of evidence . But it takes a prosecutor to take the case and make the charges.

As far as Nixon goes ;when his AG resigned ,the Senate (who actually does have some power because of the 'advise and consent clause' ) held up his nominee for AG until Nixon appointed a special prosecutor (Archibald Cox) .

Now Nixon was called the imperial President . But he cooperated . This emperor ? He would let the Justice Dept run with an acting AG or try to sneak his nominee in on some bogus definition of a Senate recess.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, dad:

Now we're getting somewhere... Got a link? I HATE lying under oath.

excon

Already been posted. It shows that he claims to have never gone by another name. That oath would also state that very same thing.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Like with his birth certificate?

Took way too many years to present that... and when it was... there are legitimate questions about certain parts of it that call authenticity into question.

Every previous president or candidate has released their information... whats he trying to hide. Or what is he ashamed of that's in it?

I'm thinking this harkens back to George Bushes last term where JOhn Kerry was making a lot of derogatory claims about Bushes college record... when months after the election when he finally did release his own... they showed his grades were far worse than Bushes were. I think this is another case of the same.

Funny how legitimate national secrets are easier to access and release (several cases in the news reflects that) than those documents..

If he had simply released them it would have defused much of the suspicion about the unprecedented secretive behviour... and the reasons that might be driving it.

You know the old saying... where there's smoke... theres fire.

The birther issue was always bogus. The college records is an interesting issue ,but ultimately not very relevant to anything.There are now plenty of real issues about the emperor to deal with without wasting any effort on what at this point is a diversion . I'm sure he'd love to have people talking about his college records instead of his incompetent and corrupt execution of his duties .

Just part of the ever expenading web of deceit that his administration has woven. And it's a HUGE web.

Hello again, dad:

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Already been posted. It shows that he claims to have never gone by another name. That oath would also state that very same thing.

I'm not going to look. Can you post it again? I want to SEE that oath part. You know, when we're dealing with impeachable offenses, I want to SEE the evidence with my OWN EYES.

Excon

It's funny how Republicans in congress aren't pursuing these issues but anonymous people on the interwebs seem to know more than them. LOL.

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but anonymous people on the interwebs seem to know more than them. LOL.

Like you?

Am I making an outraged issue of it?

Now you know why we call them the party of angry white guys that only love rich guys. They are suspicious of everybody that doesn't look like them, nor conform to what they think is the way they think it should be. They call it principles, but I call it prejudice.

Why else would they blame everything and everybody else but NEVER themselves, for anything? How else could you justify killing a kid, a neighbor, that gave a dumbass with a gun a bloody nose?

Trayvon is a thug, and so is the president, can we not see a pattern here? Can we not see a pattern in the way they govern when they have power?

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Now you know why we call them the party of angry white guys that only love rich guys. They are suspicious of everybody that doesn't look like them, nor conform to what they think is the way they think it should be. They call it principles, but I call it prejudice.

That's funny, we're not the ones telling everyone to beware of white guys, or "white Hispanic" guys.

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Why else would they blame everything and everybody else but NEVER themselves, for anything? How else could you justify killing a kid, a neighbor, that gave a dumbass with a gun a bloody nose?

Trayvon is a thug, and so is the president, can we not see a pattern here? Can we not see a pattern in the way they govern when they have power?

That's even funnier, accusing us of passing the buck while the most transparent administration ever ducks, dodges, obstructs, conceals and blames everyone but himself for his failures and scandals.