Just ask someone who is effected by the provisions that have already started, and from what my mom says it's a great start. Or ask the poor people who are going to free clinics, or health centers.

If its working great so far, it may turn into a greater idea with a few tweaks here and there. Just ask the people of Massachusetts, and Vermont, one has single payer, mandated, and the other is moving that way. May I remind you that the full law doesn't even take effect until 2014, and the cost savings kick in fully. And about that mandate every one is hollering about, and thinking that will get it repealed through the court.

Do you know what the civil, and criminal penalty is for NOT having health insurance? You can't take your premiums off your federal taxes. All of us that have insurance CAN. You know the part that seldom gets told? Your boss doesn't have to pay for your health care insurance, and if he does/wants to, he gets a tax break too. WIN-WIN!

I ask again, what's the downside of this deal?

Hello again,

There's a Democratic primary today, and the Republicans are running FAKE Democrats... In other words, they're LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH.

Uhhhh... Why is that OK, but leaving the state isn't?

excon

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Hello again,

There's a Democratic primary today, and the Republicans are running FAKE Democrats... In other words, they're LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH.

Uhhhh.... Why is that ok, but leaving the state isn't?

excon

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Weird, it's all over the news but our conservative political pundits here seemed to have glossed over this.

Its okay for Republicans to rely on dirty tricks, but not you doing it to them. You act surprised, what, you think they run out of them? More to come.

I haven't glossed over anything, it's not my responsibility to raise every possible issue. Personally I think it's wrong, just as wrong as the fake Tea Party candidate in NY-26. I know it was mentioned here, were you just as upset then?

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Personally I think it's wrong,

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Hello again, Steve:

Cool. We'll fix the world next...

excon

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Cool. We'll fix the world next...

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You can start with the Playasaurs. :D

According to the thred on the NY-26th ,the fate TP candidate didn't matter... it was the issues... throwing grandma over the cliff and all that. I assume in Wi. The "fake Dem" won't matter either unless the Dem's ox is gored...

Here in NY there is frequent cross party issues because the system sucks. Bloomberg went from Dem to Rep to Ind in the course of 3 elections . Evita purchased a house for the purpose of becoming a NY Senator ;and Bobby Kennedy rented a hotel room for his residency.

In case anyone cares...

WISCONSIN RECALL: Republicans Retain Senate Control, Dems Fall Short

Looks like Walker's collective bargaining measure - and the savings it's already racking up - will stand.

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Hello again, Steve:

I care..

You know, I was 26 before I met my first Republican... I'd heard about them, but I didn't think anybody would actually BE one - especially since they weren't BORN that way. I've been reading.. You can pray it away, if you wanted.. It's a lifestyle choice. Just say no. (Oh, I forgot.. That's what you DO say.)

excon

It stands for now. I doubt that its over.

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Hello again, Steve:

I care..

You know, I was 26 before I met my first Republican... I'd heard about them, but I didn't think anybody would actually BE one - especially since they weren't BORN that way. I've been reading.. You can pray it away, if you wanted.. It's a lifestyle choice. Just say no. (Oh, I forgot.. That's what you DO say.)

excon

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LOL, OK, that was funny.

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Hello again,

There's a Democratic primary today, and the Republicans are running FAKE Democrats... In other words, they're LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH.

Uhhhh.... Why is that ok, but leaving the state isn't?

excon

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But when the Democrats do that... they get saluted?

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Hello again,

Nahhh... It ain't over yet. I think we might see a READJUSTMENT in the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Seems as though the recently re-elected Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser attempted to strangle liberal Justice Ann Walsh Bradley during an argument last week. The cops are investigating.

excon

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No charges will be filed.

Walker is already trying to figure out how to change the laws in Wisconsin to deal with his upcoming recall challenge. Stay tuned. Its just getting started there, and in Ohio, and Florida. Watch Michigan, and NEW JERSEY, Maine, New Hampshire, aw heck, anyplace with a first term Republican Governor. Its all related.

Walker is starting to sweat bullets.

While Walker's collective bargaining law continues to save money for otherwise strapped cities and school districts, union thugs are protesting at a successful school while the governor was reading to students, instead of doing something useful like educating children.

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In a statement released Friday morning to FOX6 News in Milwaukee, Messmer President the Rev. Bob Smith said the Catholic school's mission is to educate students and instill values.

“We teach our students to respect adults and individuals they disagree with. Our students work hard and succeed. There are no gimmicks or tricks here, just a focus on traditional values,” Smith said in the statement.

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Messmer sends 85% of its well-behaved high-school graduates to college. That's what's so threatening to the unions, the public schools they have in their grips can't compete with alternative schools that teach values, graduate their students and send them to college.

Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What would you expect from a right wing Republican organization? And tell me how they know about the savings when school just started? Oh, that's right from the money they cut from education, that the schools won't get.

Budget cuts $834 million from schools - JSOnline

Uncharted waters: Public school superintendents may be facing ?perfect storm?

Basically he takes public money to fund private, and charter schools. You start letting rich families get free education through the Walker plan, guess who gets squeezed out? The numbers don't lie.

That's what the recall will be about!

Personally... the Public schools are doing such a crappy job thanks to the NEA and Teachers unions pushing an agenda rather than education as their purpose in life... the money is rightfully going to Charter schools who will educate rather an indocrinate. And they on average do a far better job.

Where are the NEA and Teachers unions entitled to exclusivity in the education system?

When it cuts out the ones who can least afford it. How does a $50,000 household need state money for education??

http://legalclips.nsba.org/?p=6411

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Gov. Scott Walker supports expanding the voucher program, saying it gives families more choices in how to educate their children. The present voucher program is limited to low-income students. Walker would like to eliminate income limits and expand the program to other cities, including Racine, Beloit and Green Bay.

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