of course there is a racist motive. Margaret Sanger's intent in creating Planned Parenthood was eugenic extermination of Blacks
Margaret Sanger Introduces Her ‘Negro Project’, 1939 – Landmark Events

The Judge issued a ruling that rejected .Trump discovery requests to see more of the “evidence” compiled by Special Counsel Jack Smith for the Jan 6 show trial. She also said that Trump could be in legal jeopardy for the riot without specifically authorizing it.

“It is entirely conceivable, for instance, that Defendant could share responsibility for the events of January 6 without such express authorization of rioters’ criminal actions,”

gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.263.0_8.pdf (courtlistener.com)

Trump wanted discovery from AG Garland and his deputy Lisa Monaco. The judge refused it claiming they were not part of the case. But they initiated the investigation.

Today the judge will unseal the redacted parts of the updated indictments just in time for the final campaign push.

Judge in Trump's Jan. 6 case rules additional evidence will be unsealed Friday - ABC News (go.com)

Jan 6 was a protest turned to a riot. The issue was the VP doing the ceremonial certification of the electors and the election.

Now Repubs have been repeatedly asked this campaign cycle to declare that Trump lost in 2016 .
Let's not forget that several Dems in Congress with the support of the compliant press were creating ads calling for electors to be faithless

‘Faithless’ electors, faithful citizens hold out final hope to unseat Trump (france24.com)

The last-ditch push for the Electoral College to stop Trump, explained | Vox


So in fairness ;Repubs should demand Kam the Sham to declare that if Trump wins this election that she as VP will certify the results . Put her on record if they can.

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of course there is a racist motive. Margaret Sanger's intent in creating Planned Parenthood was eugenic extermination of Blacks
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Exactly correct. If the shoe fits...

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So in fairness ;Repubs should demand Kam the Sham to declare that if Trump wins this election that she as VP will certify the results . Put her on record if they can.

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Great observation.

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Here is where the data came from. I still think that the preponderance of black abortions sure makes all of you abortion supporters look mighty racist.

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I used etc. after black. That is Latin for "and others", meaning white, Asian, South American, Indian, Philippino, ETC.!!!

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As for the rest of your post, it's all window dressing. There is only one question that's important. Is the unborn child a living human being? If it is, then the only acceptable reason for an abortion is to preserve the life of the mother, and that situation basically does not occur anymore other than ectopic pregnancies. But if the unborn child is just a useless collection of cells, then having an abortion is of no more importance than having a tooth pulled.

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And if your wife or daughter has an ectopic pregnancy or is pregnant with a fetus that has no head or has other horrible physical problems or is the result of a rape, then what?

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As to the participation of men, I have said here for years that sex should be reserved for marriage. You are the one who is unwilling to go there.

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And husbands very unhappily get wives pregnant and wives very unhappily become pregnant -- jobs become in jeopardy, family finances can't handle another child, marital abuse is occurring, a divorce is pending, et al. (Latin for "and others). Condoms work. Birth control meds work. Abstinence works.

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I used etc. after black. That is Latin for "and others", meaning white, Asian, South American, Indian, Philippino, ETC.!!!

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As a self-proclaimed Google expert, why haven't you located the "and others"? Isn't it strange that I'm the only one able to locate data. And for those who know a little about grammar but evidently nothing about reading, the "etc." was covered in the data. Your empty complaining is lending support to the idea that Wondergirl could have more in common with Margaret Sanger than we might think. "Oh yeah! Well sure, 40% of abortions are performed on black women, but I said et cetera!!"

As for all of your scenarios, it all comes back to what I said before. If the unborn child is a living human being, then it deserves the protection of law. If it's not, then take the option you prefer which is to kill it with no reservations. "I know it's a living human being, but we want a new car, so it just has to go!"

The only one you mentioned that is valid is the ectopic pregnancy. If nothing is done, then both mother and child will die. It is not possible to save the embryo. A fetus with "no head" would not be alive. It's a dumb statement. And there are many children born with physical problems. Should we kill them as well? After all, we shouldn't have to deal with all of these "severe physical problems".

But you are, I suppose, to be congratulated. Thanks to people like you, the occurrence of children born with Down's Syndrome has dropped significantly since they generally don't live long enough to be born thanks to abortions.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

As a self-proclaimed Google expert, why haven't you located the "and others"? Isn't it strange that I'm the only one able to locate data. And for those who know a little about grammar but evidently nothing about reading, the "etc." was covered in the data. Your empty complaining is lending support to the idea that Wondergirl could have more in common with Margaret Sanger than we might think. "Oh yeah! Well sure, 40% of abortions are performed on black women, but I said et cetera!!"

As for all of your scenarios, it all comes back to what I said before. If the unborn child is a living human being, then it deserves the protection of law. If it's not, then take the option you prefer which is to kill it with no reservations. "I know it's a living human being, but we want a new car, so it just has to go!"

The only one you mentioned that is valid is the ectopic pregnancy. If nothing is done, then both mother and child will die. It is not possible to save the embryo. A fetus with "no head" would not be alive. It's a dumb statement. And there are many children born with physical problems. Should we kill them as well? After all, we shouldn't have to deal with all of these "severe physical problems".

But you are, I suppose, to be congratulated. Thanks to people like you, the occurrence of children born with Down's Syndrome has dropped significantly since they generally don't live long enough to be born thanks to abortions.

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I'm tired of your nasty b--ching and unsupported arguments. I'm outta here!

You're kidding yourself. You just don't like having to face the truth. And comments such as, "I'm tired of your nasty b--ching and unsupported arguments," don't exactly set a good example for civility, now do they?

I would encourage you to stick with it and learn how to advocate for your positions more effectively. Rather sadly, the liberals have largely abandoned the field here and left it to the two surviving conservatives.

Newsweek citing former assistant US attorney from NY -AG of NJ Elie Honig ;along with legal scholar Jonathan Turley, details that all Jack Smith did was file the same charges against Trump he had done previously . To comply with recent SCOTUS decision about President's immunity ,Smith swapped out "President " Trump for "candidate " Trump.

Turley also accused Smith of violating DOJ policy of not interfering with elections. Since the trial could not happen until 2025 ,there was no reason to file the indictment before the election.

Jack Smith's 'Irregular' Trump Case Actions Raise Red Flags—Legal Analysts - Newsweek

Jack Smith Launched an October Surprise Against Donald Trump

They've sure got all their guns blazing.