You need to read his post again. He was never denying the existence of such people.
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You need to read his post again. He was never denying the existence of such people.
Finally, LGBT+ people are starting to feel comfortable with themselves and are "coming out". As I mentioned earlier, they've been among us since the beginning of time and are finally, joyfully, revealing their real selves.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
The pedophiles and zoophiles are next in line to joyfully reveal their real selves. Their claims will be every bit as valid as the LGBT crowd in the minds of many people.
Criminals don't reveal their true selves.
Sodomy used to be illegal. If we think we can celebrate two men having sex with each other, then adults/children and people/animals will come next. This describes it all perfectly.
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...with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
So a married couple, male and female, are allowed to have sex only one way, correct? No variations on a theme.
One thing I'll say; Rick Levine waited well into adulthood before he began pretending he was a woman.
If an adult chooses mutilation then I suppose it is a free will thing as long as I don't have to pay for it .
But there is a 10th level of Dante's hell for adults who encourage youth to mutilate themselves .
As Paul Stanley said
“Turning this into a game or parents normalizing it as some sort of natural alternative or believing that because a little boy likes to play dress up in his sister’s clothes or a girl in her brother’s, we should lead them steps further down a path that’s far from the innocence of what they are doing,”
That's not what happens, not how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
As Paul Stanley said
“Turning this into a game or parents normalizing it as some sort of natural alternative or believing that because a little boy likes to play dress up in his sister’s clothes or a girl in her brother’s, we should lead them steps further down a path that’s far from the innocence of what they are doing,”
That's why family and individual counseling is done. No surgery (if any) is done for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I'll just say it again. Sodomy used to be illegal. In England, "buggery" was punishable by death. You claimed that "criminals do not reveal their true selves," but what if it is no longer illegal? In your mind, is it OK then? I ask because that is what they are pushing for. Tom posted on this a few weeks back, speaking of some wanting to use the term "minor-attracted persons" rather then pedophiles. I suspect that you will support that should it be legalized. After all, if a fourteen year old girl is old enough to decide to have her genitals removed/altered, then surely you would think she is old enough to decide to have sex.Quote:
So a married couple, male and female, are allowed to have sex only one way, correct? No variations on a theme.
Nope. No way. Still too young.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Well at least you are agreeing that fourteen year olds should not have this type of surgery. That is progress.
A 14 y/o (and older) can dress the part, behave as the opposite sex, etc. I know at least a half dozen individuals who are old enough but can't afford the changeover. They are meanwhile satisfied with how they are able to present themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
How old is "old enough"?Quote:
A 14 y/o (and older) can dress the part, behave as the opposite sex, etc. I know at least a half dozen individuals who are old enough but can't afford the changeover. They are meanwhile satisfied with how they are able to present themselves.
Over 21, self supporting.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
No questions as to how they present themselves???
As a Christian minister, or just as a Christian, I would oppose it, but I don’t think it should be illegal.
Why oppose it?
Because women do not become men.
What makes him a man?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Michael Bailey is a professor of psychology and a researcher on the topic of gender confusion for 40 years .
His article on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria( ROGD) was retracted by 'Archives of Sexual Behavior' because trans-activists don't like to hear the truth . The truth being that most of the fad behind the transformer movement is a social construct .
There is ample evidence that in progressive communities, multiple girls from the same peer group are announcing they are trans almost simultaneously. There has been a sharp increase in this phenomenon across the industrialized West.
But there have been virtually no scientific data or studies on the subject.
In part that is because researchers who have touched this topic have been punished for their curiosity.[
My Research on Gender Dysphoria Was Censored. But I Won’t Be. | The Free Press (thefp.com)
Bud Lite sales and popularity continues to plummet .
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07...8794023543.jpg
Bud Light sales shrunk 28% in the week before holiday weekend | Daily Mail Online
Men have XY choromosomes and are born with male genitalia.Quote:
What makes him a man?
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE
News story.
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A former pro-transgender activist said she regretted her previous work in pro-transgender activism, adding she felt she was "indoctrinated" on gender ideology in an interview with Fox News Digital.
"I started to realize that what I had been doing at my job at the LGBT Center, it was grooming," Kay Yang, a former employee of a location in New York, said. Grooming in this context means "to get into readiness for a specific objective."
Yang is now an outspoken critic of gender ideology being taught to young children in K-12 education. Recently, Yang was attacked while protesting at a pride event in NYC for espousing views against the topic.
This is an on-going problem in a number of areas of study. Conservative researchers in origin of life and intelligent design studies cannot get published.Quote:
His article on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria( ROGD) was retracted by 'Archives of Sexual Behavior' because trans-activists don't like to hear the truth . The truth being that most of the fad behind the transformer movement is a social construct .
Aha, those chromosomes! Them's the problem!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
If you only knew the variations of humankind among whom you walk!
If only you knew science.
Yeah, I know you want science to say we're only 100% male or 100% female, like Adam and Eve. Sorry, the apple eating changed God's plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Like I said, if only you knew science.
And I do. With real-life examples of how the science can get twisted when Mother Nature steps in.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
You have not a clue. People who know the science don't ask questions such as, "What makes him a man," and then act surprised when chromosomal makeup is offered as an answer.Quote:
And I do. With real-life examples of how the science can get twisted when Mother Nature steps in.
Estrogen overload while a fetus.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Estrogen overload while a fetus makes a child a man??? Wow. Your knowledge of science is even more meager than I thought.
You know what I mean. (They took my prednisone away. I may turn into a man.)
I imagine prednisone could become a nice habit. I think they restrict it since it's hard on the heart.
birth defects and mutations are not nornal . They are the exception .
Very true. Even if a biological influence could be found, it would not make this a condition to celebrate.
California Bill AB957 passed the House and is now being debated in the Senate . It would add a parent’s denial of their child’s "gender expression" to the list of offenses deemed child abuse and would be considered in child custody considerations.
Bill Text - AB-957 Family law: gender identity. (ca.gov)Quote:
(B) As used in this paragraph, the health, safety, and welfare of the child includes, among other comprehensive factors, a parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity or gender expression. Affirmation includes a range of actions and will be unique for each child, but in every case must promote the child’s overall health and well-being.
If the bill passes and ends up on Guv Newsom's desk ,will he sign it ? I know he has to pander to the radical Dems and the alphabet soup LGBTQ++XYZ crowd . But he has national aspirations . Will this bill sell in the swing states ?
Another good reason to flee Cali.
Dylan Mulvaney has been named by Forbes by it's “30 Under 30 Social Media” list for being one of the most influential young social media influencers in the world.
Mulvany contributed to the destruction of a major beer brand so perhaps the award is deserved. He "influenced " millions to boycott Bud Lite .
Perhaps he will be able to do the same for Mr. Biden.
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