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The kids love that "garish" parade, will laugh and clap and wave their arms in glee

That's why we call them "children". They will also "laugh and clap and wave their arms in glee" as they run across a busy street. It is our job as adults to protect them and not expose them to what is nothing better than nonsense and in reality much worse.

With the many options available for quality, accomplished adults to read to children, it's ridiculous to choose a bunch of men dressed up as women. It's nothing less than a thinly veiled effort to promote that which is disgusting as being normal. "Hey boys, maybe someday you can grow up and wear a dress!!"

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It is our job as adults to protect them and not expose them to what is nothing better than nonsense and in reality much worse.

There is no thteat, no danger. And you haven't watched tv much lately, have you. Even the cartoons can be scary. Roadrunner jumping off a cliff into the abyss! Daffy getting smashed by a train.

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With the many options available for quality, accomplished adults to read to children, it's ridiculous to choose a bunch of men dressed up as women.

Yeah, and this happens at least once a week at every public library. Bwahahaha!

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It's nothing less than a thinly veiled effort to promote that which is disgusting as being normal. "Hey boys, maybe someday you can grow up and wear a dress!!"

You've never worn a dress or makeup or a wig for fun? That's what this is -- fun! Oh, yeah, I forgot....

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There is no thteat, no danger

Only in your view.

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Yeah, and this happens at least once at week at every public library. Bwahahaha!

Not in ours.

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You've never worn a dress or makeup or a wig for fun?

I know this is going to come as a great shocker for you, but the country, thankfully, is still filled with many men who don't regard wearing dresses or makeup as "fun". I would be in that group, so the answer is no. There are still men who just want to be men unlike those two in the pic above.

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Only in your view.

And in the view of many other fun-loving, open-minded people!

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Not in ours.

I was being facetious.

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I know this is going to come as a great shocker for you, but the country, thankfully, is still filled with many men who don't regard wearing dresses or makeup as "fun". I would be in that group, so the answer is no. There are still men who just want to be men unlike those two in the pic above.

And the women who wear pants and a t-shirt and NO makeup? Ewwwww!!! Stay away from them! They must be "transformers"!!!

Those women who wear women's pants and women's t-shirts are not parading around as men and labeling themselves as "drag queens". Surely you can think better than that.

Women belong in dresses or skirts! It shows their subservience to men and shows that they are always "available"! (Told to me by Christian men)

Just a foolish statement.

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Those women who wear women's pants and women's t-shirts

I order mine from the Eddie Bauer catalog, in the men's section. They're very comfortable.

Last time I wore a dress was Christmas 1974.

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Just a foolish statement.

But CHRISTIAN men told me that in no uncertain terms!!!

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If you are going to the public library garishly dressed as a man, then I would have a problem with that. Otherwise, I have no idea why you even bring it up.

I don't care what Christian men told you. We are talking about this, so I do see why you keep trying to change the subject since you enthusiastically support it. If I supported that, then I'd change the subject too.

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If you are going to the public library garishly dressed as a man, then I would have a problem with that. Otherwise, I have no idea why you even bring it up.

Many of the women employees wear pants and knit shirts or cotton blouses. Lots of bending and stretching and reaching and climbing on stepstools and even ladders. Dresses aren't functional, are unnecessary, are even annoying.

I just don't understand your discomfort. Wearing a costume for a fun occasion brings children (and adults) happiness and laughter and encourages open-mindedness.

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You love it and I don't. That's where it stands.

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You love it and I don't. That's where it stands.

I repeat: I just don't understand your discomfort. Wearing a costume for a fun occasion brings children (and adults) happiness and laughter and encourages open-mindedness.

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Like I said. You love it. To support exposing children to this perverse sight is your choice.

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And you still haven't explained rationally what's wrong with it.

Would you rather they dressed up as pirates or bank robbers?

If you can't look at that pic and see it, then there's no help for you.

Would you rather they dressed up as pirates or bank robbers?

P.S. There's nothing to see!!! Just fun! And many are straight, btw. Marlene Dietrich did it.
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Women who dress as men and entertain by imitating them are called drag kings.

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So your case is based on an actress dressed like a man and smoking a cigarette? Well...OK then. It's all on you. Just glad I'm not the one having to make that absurd case. But even at that, neither of those poor souls was paraded before young children and presented as being normal, so your case just completely fell apart.

There's no joy in your life, is there. No fun, no imagination, no happy anticipation.

Please read If God is Love, Please Don't Be a Jerk by John Pavlovitz.

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There's no joy in your life, is there. No fun, no imagination, no happy anticipation.

I'm with my granddaughter, wife, daughter, and son in law, so I have lots of joy. I'm with Jesus always, so that's plenty of joy. Now granted I'm not watching a perverted drag-queen reading hour for children, so you've got me there.

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Please read If God is Love, Please Don't Be a Jerk by John Pavlovitz.

Too late. You've already brought that up before. I'll tell you what I told you then. He's as big a jerk as I've seen just from his treatment of evangelicals in his book, so he would need to first take his own advice before giving it out to others. And for that matter, WG could take some advice about not being a jerk. If she did, she would not post, "There's no joy in your life, is there. No fun, no imagination, no happy anticipation."

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WG could take some advice about not being a jerk. If she did, she would not post, "There's no joy in your life, is there. No fun, no imagination, no happy anticipation."

WG is only paying you back for the incredibly nasty comments you've made to her (and others).

And as usual, it's someone else's fault. I would suggest you take responsibility for your own actions.

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And as usual, it's someone else's fault. I would suggest you take responsibility for your own actions.

I will if you will. Want to start over?

We can try, but this subject has been exhausted.

As for drag queen appearances at public libraries, they are considered programs and people who want to attend must sign up. The children who attend, the younger ones usually with parents, have talked with their parents about what they will see and expect at the program -- songs sung, finger plays done, picture books read, accompanied by laughter and fun memories.

Does the photo you have posted several times show children tied to their chairs, tears flowing, screaming in fear?

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As for drag queen appearances at public libraries, they are considered programs and people who want to attend must sign up. The children who attend, the younger ones usually with parents, have talked with their parents about what they will see and expect at the program -- songs sung, finger plays done, picture books read, accompanied by laughter and fun memories.

You know this how?

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Does the photo you have posted several times show children tied to their chairs, tears flowing, screaming in fear?

This has been answered fully on two occasions already. I will not answer it again.

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You know this how?

I know this from working in public libraries for 30 years. A drag queen appearance would be considered a program that had been approved by the library board and arranged by the person(s) in charge of programs.

It would NOT be a spontaneous appearance in the Youth Department.

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So you know what YOU would have done, but have no idea what the other hundreds of libraries across the county are doing.

But even at that, presenting these perverted men to children as something that is ordinary and natural is, in my view, criminal.

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So you know what YOU would have done, but have no idea what the other hundreds of libraries across the county are doing.

Yes, most public libraries belong to the American Library Association and follow its rules and outlines for running a public library.

Drag queens don't just burst through the library's front doors and begin their performance!

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But even at that, presenting these perverted men to children as something that is ordinary and natural is, in my view, criminal.

Oh, those poor tortured kids! P.S. Those aren't "perverted men". I have dear friends in the LGBTQ+ community. I'm in regular contact with a high school boyfriend who is now married to his husband. Delightful man!

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P.S. Those aren't "perverted men". I have dear friends in the LGBTQ+ community. I'm in regular contact with a high school boyfriend who is now married to his husband. Delightful man!

A man who habitually dresses up as a woman in a lewd and garish manner is a pervert.

I know, and am friends with, a number of gay individuals. They are just like everyone else...sinners. We are to love sinners, but we are not to excuse their sins.

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A man who habitually dresses up as a woman in a lewd and garish manner is a pervert.

It isn't "habitual"; it's an occasional thing for a presentation. Reminds me of the dressing up a pastor or priest does when leading a church service. Or monks in a monastery.

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I know, and am friends with, a number of gay individuals. They are just like everyone else...sinners. We are to love sinners, but we are not to excuse their sins.

You and I are also sinners. And, don't forget, Jesus said we are to love one another.

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It isn't "habitual"; it's an occasional thing for a presentation.

That's not true.

Yes, we are also sinners. Do you excuse your own sin as you excuse the sins of others? Is it a loving act to convince people that living outside the will of God is OK?

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That's not true.

Yes, it is true. They dress like that for special programs and presentations.

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Yes, we are also sinners. Do you excuse your own sin as you excuse the sins of others? Is it a loving act to convince people that living outside the will of God is OK?

I have no clue what you're talking about, especially in reference to what I had posted.

The completely, totally predictable next step. The drag queen strip hour at a public library. I'm sure you will completely approve of this as well.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019...how-goes-viral

You can also read there about the library that brought in a convicted sex offender to read to the kiddos. I'm sure that will also be approved of.

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I have no clue what you're talking about, especially in reference to what I had posted.

You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's just your usual dodge of a subject that you have no answers for.

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The completely, totally predictable next step. The drag queen strip hour at a public library. I'm sure you will completely approve of this as well.

2019?????

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You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's just your usual dodge of a subject that you have no answers for.

Nope, I have no clue. It must be your "evangelistic" self talking.

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2019?????

When I posted it, I knew you would never be critical of something like that. Sure enough!!

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Nope, I have no clue. It must be your "evangelistic" self talking.

You understand this completely. My fifth graders would have understood it. " Do you excuse your own sin as you excuse the sins of others? Is it a loving act to convince people that living outside the will of God is OK?" You never, ever, ever answer questions that make you uncomfortable. It's been true on dozens of occasions in the past and it remains true now.

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When I posted it, I knew you would never be critical of something like that. Sure enough!!

CBN News! Bwahahahaha!!!

I haven't excused anyone's sin, even yours, but I don't hold it against you. And Jesus still loves you.

Even a complete blithering idiot could watch the video and see what was happening. Instead, you take a convenient escape route. Pitiful.

(No, I am not calling you a blithering idiot.)

Strange how quickly you went from, "I have no clue," to being able to offer a reply. Interesting.

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Even a complete blithering idiot could watch the video and see what was happening. Instead, you take a convenient escape route. Pitiful.

2019 and the source. Yucky! It's in the print.

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2019 and the source. Yucky!

Nothing sums you up more than this. CBN news is "yucky", but a drag-queen strip show before children warrants no comment. Incredible. Absolutely incredible.

I watched the video. There was no stripping.

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"Drag Queen Storytime" or "Drag Queen Story Hour" is an initiative typically held at public libraries in which drag performers read books to children. Program advocates say they are important literacy programs that help teach children tolerance for members of the LGBTQ community.