Who knows what investigators will find! Especially involving and enmeshing dear ol' dad!
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Who knows what investigators will find! Especially involving and enmeshing dear ol' dad!
I don't think that will go over well. "We're investigating you because Wondergirl doesn't like you!" Come to think of it, that does sound like something the Biden Justice Dept. would try.
Or the republican justice department would use to somehow get rid of a dem candy date.
the connection is that Quid Pro Joe was 'the big guy' who siphoned off 10% of the proceeds in exchange for his influence.
It's hard to imagine being so in favor of a dem admin that a person will turn a blind eye to this kind of corruption, and then somehow try to justify it by speculating on what a repub admin might do. The idea should be justice for all".Quote:
Or the republican justice department would use to somehow get rid of a dem candy date.
I will tell you this. Should a repub admin do such a thing, I will raise my voice with yours to oppose it. The question now is, will we all join our voices in a call for justice?
You need to provide some proof for your accusation.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Are you the same guy who posted this youtube link?
Joe Biden brags about having “the most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization” in history. - YouTube
You grossly misled anyone reading that this was Biden PROMOTING voter fraud as if he had such an organization. A cursory look shows that Biden is DEMEANING voter fraud by having an organization investigating fraud.
If we had any doubts about your truthfulness, you have totally confirmed those doubts by this very untruthful post.
begone troll the proof is in Hunter Biden's laptop. That is all public knowledge
If it's public, post it. Put up or shut up, bigmouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
you never post any of your claims . In fact your sole purpose on this site is to snipe at my posts . I waste time dealing with it
They are being investigated in the NY ongoing investigation for fraud. If convicted, all three face jail along with their criminal father. The acorn doesn't fall from the tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
That's simply an excuse to avoid giving proof of your false statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I don't "snipe" at your posts. I expose then for the false information they so frequently claim. Keep lying, and keep seeing me embarrassing you with the truth.
Obviously, you don't appreciate being exposed. Change your evil ways, and you won't be.
no you are like Stafford and Waldorf from the Muppet show shouting from the balcony . Annoying yes . Consequential no . From this moment on you are talking to a wall .
What a comment coming from a guy who is fearful of answering practically any question posed to him. Tom has described you well.Quote:
That's simply an excuse to avoid giving proof of your false statement.
Noted: Lacking any coherent reply, you resort to name-calling and run away like a mutt with your tail between your legs. Your reaction is fairly typical, and occurs when you can't defend your misleading posts. You can run, but you can't hide.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
This is posted by a guy who disappears for weeks at a time and refuses to answer any question of substance directed to him. Your "critique" of Tom accuses him of name calling. That's done right before you refer to him as a "mutt with your tail between your legs". Would that not be the pot once again calling the kettle black? It does, at least, provide some amusement.Quote:
Noted: Lacking any coherent reply, you resort to name-calling and run away like a mutt with your tail between your legs.
Now if it wasn't for the absolutely rank hypocrisy, he would have a worthwhile point. These discussions are supposed to be about one person introducing an idea, and others getting to probe some by asking questions of substance about that idea. And then there is a reasoned response, and on it goes. Name calling and snarky comments should be out of bounds as well as simply refusing to answer questions.
The special council is Jack Smith . When Garland says he is perfect for the job he knows of what he speaks .
Smith is experienced in taking out potential GOP Presidential candidates . As head of the DOJ 'Public Integrity Unit' he prosecuted then Guv of Va and GOP rising star Bob McDonnell . McDonnell was convicted to 2 years in jail
His appeal went to SCOTUS . A brief filed by Repub and Dem White House counsels going back several administrations, said the government had gone too far in the McDonnell case.
SCOTUS decided in an 8-0 decision to reverse his conviction . But by then the damage was done.
Kind of hard to imagine a greater miscarriage of justice than this.Quote:
SCOTUS decided in an 8-0 decision to reverse his conviction . But by then the damage was done.
You never replied to my comment:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
To repeat: You can run, but you can't hide. Proof positive that the truth means nothing to you when it conflicts with your far right lies. Shame.Quote:
Are you the same guy who posted this youtube link?
Joe Biden brags about having “the most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization” in history. - YouTube
You grossly misled anyone reading that this was Biden PROMOTING voter fraud as if he had such an organization. A cursory look shows that Biden is DEMEANING voter fraud by having an organization investigating fraud.
If we had any doubts about your truthfulness, you have totally confirmed those doubts by this very untruthful post.
Says, again, the pot to the supposed kettle.Quote:
You never replied to my comment:
makes it hard to believe Smith is the impartial prosecutor he is portrayed to be.Quote:
SCOTUS decided in an 8-0 decision to reverse his conviction . But by then the damage was done.
Kind of hard to imagine a greater miscarriage of justice than this.
He was deeply involved in the coordinated effort of IRS's Lois Lerner and the FBI regarding the IRS targeting Tea Party organizations .
This according to a letter sent to Eric Holder by Congressman Darrell Issa .
The letter continuesQuote:
The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform continues to examine the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative tax-exempt applicants. On May 6, 2014, the Committee conducted a transcribed interview of Richard Pilger, the Director of the Department of Justice’s Election Crimes Branch. While we knew that the Justice Department engaged with the IRS in May 2013 to consider prosecution of political active nonprofits,[1] we were shocked to learn that this engagement started in October 2010. According to Mr. Pilger, the Justice Department convened a meeting with former IRS official Lois Lerner in October 2010 to discuss how the IRS could assist in the criminal enforcement of campaign-finance laws against politically active nonprofits. This meeting was arranged at the direction of Public Integrity Section Chief Jack Smith. We therefore respectfully request that you make Mr. Smith available for a transcribed interview.
Testimony: In 2010, Justice Department Sought Lois Lerner’s Help to Prosecute Tax Exempt Groups Engaging in Politics - United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
Testimony: In 2010, Justice Department Sought Lois Lerner’s Help to Prosecute Tax Exempt Groups Engaging in Politics - United States House Committee on Oversight and Government ReformQuote:
According to Mr. Pilger, Mr. Smith asked him to arrange a meeting in early October 2010 with the IRS about the ‘evolving legal landscape’ of campaign-finance law following the Supreme Court’s Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission decision. Mr. Pilger testified that the Department’s agenda for the meeting was to engage with Ms. Lerner and the IRS on being ‘more vigilant to the opportunities from more crime in the . . . 501(c)(4) area.’
In response Lerner sent 21 computer disks containing 1.1 million pages of tax-return documents to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. According to the Justice Department, the massive data dump included public returns from non-profit groups but also taxpayer information that by law the IRS is required to keep confidential.
TaxProf Blog (typepad.com)
This is the investigator that Garland swears is non-partisan,
Wondering if Smith's mandate extends beyond the political persecution of Trump ? If it is far reacbing enough will he be able to set his cross hairs on Repub members of Congress who the Dems claim to be coconspirators in the called insurrection ?
All it would take is to pick off a few Repub Reps to give the House control back to the Dems .
Here is Garland's statement
The first is the investigation, as described in court filings in the District of Columbia, into whether any person or entity unlawfully interfered with the transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election or the certification of the Electoral College vote held on or about January 6, 2021.
Appointment of a Special Counsel | OPA | Department of Justice
That implies it is more than an investigation of Trump.
Garland said that circumstances changed when Trump announced he was running . That is BS .
It was clear to anyone paying attention that Trump planned on running again the day he exited the White House . Why didn't Garland appoint a special council then ?
April Clueless Joe told us he wanted Trump prosecuted . At that moment either Garland hired a special council or admit he was doing the bidding of the President and not being an 'independent ' AG . He let that obvious conflct of interest stand for almost a half year while he convened a Grand Jury against Trump.
Again ;if Trump's situation demanded a special council then so did the slow walked Hunter Biden investigation that is still ongoing allegedly .(of that mistake Bill Barr shares culpability )
The sad part is most likely Smith will do what prosecutors do. They go after the low hanging fruit in an attempt to coerce someone to be a witness against the main target. They fall short but then claim success because they brutalized and got convictions on small potatoes .
Smith stretched the law beyond reason to get McDonnell . You know that because SCOTUS unanimously slapped him down.
I wonder what Garland is going to do when he starts getting referrals for prosecution from the Repubs investigating the Biden Crime family . Will he treat 'the Big Guy' the same way the Justice Dept is treating Trump ?
The Arizona Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Wright has said she will not certify the Guv election until she gets answers to the questions she said surround the voting in Maricopa County.
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These complaints go beyond pure speculation, but include first-hand witness accounts that raise concerns regarding Maricopa’s lawful compliance with Arizona election law. Furthermore, statements made by both Chairman Gates and Recorder Richer, along with information Maricopa County released through official modes of communication appear to confirm potential statutory violations of title 16.
Arizonans deserve a full report and accounting of the myriad problems that occurred in relation to Maricopa County’s administration of the 2022 General Election. As the canvass is looming, and these issues relate to Maricopa County’s ability to lawfully certify election results – the Unit requests a response to the aforementioned issues on or before Maricopa County submits its official canvass to the Secretary of State, which must occur on or before November 28, 2022.
Microsoft Word - 221119 Letter to Maricopa County re 2022 General Election Administration (azag.gov)
What is needed is some honest democrats who value honest elections more than they do political power.
hmm from the lefty publication The Nation we see
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Amazingly, Democrats survived 2022, retaining control of the Senate, and barely losing the House. With inflation and crime up, Biden unpopular, the vast majority saying the country is on the wrong track, and the history of voters’ punishing the president’s party in midterm elections, Republicans found it easy to peddle their “red wave” predictions. Among Democrats, fusillades from the perennial circular firing squad began long before Election Day. And yet, Democrats enjoyed the best midterm results for a presidential party since George Bush’s Republicans in 2002 in the wake of 9/11.
Democrats, Time to Go Big | The NationQuote:
Democrats did not offer a coherent argument about the economy or inflation, nor an answer to Republican race-baiting on crime… CNN’s exit polls suggest that the three-fourths of the electorate that considered the economy not good or poor voted strongly Republican.
Even the lefties admit they should not have done well . And yet they did . They have perfected the art of the steal. Mail in ballots ;election harvesting, activists collecting ballots in conveniently placed drop boxes, and ballot counting without verification have been fine tuned .
Time for the next phase . It only took Schmuck Schumer a matter of hours to suggest that all the illegal aliens who have been bum rushing the border should cut to the front of the line be given a "path to citizenship" that no doubt will come with SNAP and free health care ....oh yeah ,and a voter registration number . Here is your ballot . Don't bother filling it out . We will provide that service too,
Those who opposed this are election deniers /insurrectionists who need to be purged . So sayeth the defenders of democracy.
Robert Borosage in the above op-ed advises the Dems to go radical. And why not ? They know they have rigged the system so there are no consequences .
Sure seems to be the case. Now the question is, what to do about it? It could very easily turn ugly.Quote:
They have perfected the art of the steal. Mail in ballots ;election harvesting, activists collecting ballots in conveniently placed drop boxes, and ballot counting without verification have been fine tuned .
I don't see an answer if Repubs are locked out . More than one commentator is suggesting that Repubs just adopt the same tactics until they are in a position to reform the process .
So repubs must become as corrupt as dems until the time comes that we can correct an corrupt system? I hope it has not come to that.
There is the Florida model . They have early voting and VOTER ID with verification. That has to be adopted nationwide . What are the odds ?
Arizona seems to have pretty effective laws concerning absentee voting, but it's all for naught when vote counting extends for days in less than transparent situations.Quote:
They have early voting and VOTER ID with verification.
Maybe we need to learn a lesson from the Civil Rights days. Massive, peaceful demonstrations do have an effect.
Imagine the civil rights movement with the courts on the side of the segregationists . Oh yeah that happened and the system endured from 1896(Plessy) until 1954 (Brown v Board ) ;and another decade before meaningful corrective legislation to pass .
The Repubs can keep on losing and go to bed with a clear conscience or they can take the steps necessary to win with the defacto rules
The Florida model as explained in Newsweek by Paul Du Quenoy ;the President of the Palm Beach Freedom Insitiute .......
Under Governor Ron DeSantis's leadership, Florida had outlawed mass mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, and the use of funds offered by possibly biased third-party actors (e.g. "Zuckerbucks") to help operate local elections. It also required photo identification to vote and vowed to prosecute individuals who allegedly violated state election laws. Criticism rained down on the governor before and after the election, but the results were undeniable as the "red wave" predicted for the entire country slammed Florida's shores. DeSantis won reelection by 19 points, and similar margins of victory blessed Republican candidates down the ballot. Importantly, these numbers reasonably resembled pre-election polling data, taking into account the advantage of a few points that polling often inaccurately assigns to Democrats. What's more, the Sunshine State's 7.2 million total votes cast were counted within a mere five hours.
The GOP Must Address Election Integrity Before It Is Too Late | Opinion (newsweek.com)
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