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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I answered every claim you made in the post. There was no insider trade mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Another perfect example. You’re a flowing spring!! “Just take my word for it even though I’ve been caught speaking falsehoods before!”
see#22Quote:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...post-right.png
Notice no one refuted the insider trader claim I made . Oh that's right .It is not a crime because Madam Mimi prevented it from being a crime .
I answered every claim you made in the post. There was no insider trade mention
Saw it. My apologies. I was referencing a different post of yours. If what you say is true in that post, I will say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Meanwhile, what about some corroboration for your indictment charge and witness shenanigans against Pelosi's brother?
See Tomder's post #22 for more details.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Nancy Pelosi DID use non-public information to trade in stock. However, it was not illegal when she did it. Both sides did it. President Obama signed The Stock Act making insider trading by members of Congress illegal just like any citizen. Paul Pelosi is an investment trader and his trades are legal. Nancy Pelosi's net worth of $50-100 million is from her husband's trading, not hers.
The appearance of impropriety with a Congress member's spouse trading is obvious.
Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fully support disallowing spouses to trade. As the former put it in May: “Every senator, member of Congress, president, Cabinet secretary, federal judge, and other senior officials in charge of writing the rules for our financial system should not be able to own or trade individual stocks.” “We are here to serve the public, not to profiteer,” argued AOC adding, “It’s shocking that it’s even been allowed up to this point.”
I am in full agreement with AOC on this matter. In any case, to the present discussion, nothing criminal has been alleged against Nancy Pelosi. Her argument that any member of Congress should be treated just like any American in a free market is a load of BS. She should find a copy of Frank Capra's MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON with Jimmy Stewart and study the lesson in that movie.
Got the brother wrong . It was her brother Franklin Delano Roosevelt D'Alesandro who with 13 other defendants was charged with participating in gang statutory rapes of 2 girls age 11 and 13 Every other participant in the gang rape was convicted except Franklin. He was also charged and acquitted of perjury. Asst. State's Atty. J Harold Grady said. of the case ;"In order to acquit this defendant You must be convinced these eight witness who appeared before you entered into a conspiracy and made up their story out of whole cloth."
Grand jury investigation into 1953 Baltimore rape acquittal of Franklin D. Roosevelt D'Allesandro - Newspapers.com
This reply ought to be interesting.
This is over 70 years ago! Is there a statute of limitations on how far back you can go to try to prove your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You've already given the answer. It's right there in your post. The brother was ACQUITTED of all statutory rape and perjury charges. Your quote from the attorney - presumably the loser - omits an important point. Namely, that a witness testified for the brother saying he could not have been there.
If you have evidence of wrong doing in the trial, you should bring it to the attention of the authorities. Otherwise, be careful of defaming another's character. It might happen to you.
However, this was your original post concerning the brother before you changed brothers.
You changed Tommy to Franklin saying you got the brother wrong. You seem to be confused about the whole business, including the brothers and who was charged with what.Quote:
Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore . Charges were dropped when witnesses disappeared .
In this post, one person has provided support while the other has not. Nuff said.
Why is every compliant press report of this incident loaded with the tales of 'unnamed sources ' ? Why hasn't the police bodycam footage of the incident been released ? Why did a crazed assaulter allow Paulie to take a bathroom break so he could call 9-1-1 ?
DePape is the custody of the San Francisco Police Department with no bail, inmate records show. He is being treated for injuries at a hospital, the SFPD said, and he will eventually be booked into jail. Police Chief Scott said he will not confirm nor deny if DePape was placed under a “5150,” meaning, a psychiatric hold.
“The suspect is still in the hospital. It’s not appropriate for me to release any of the suspect’s medical information,” Scott said Friday evening. “We intend to book the suspect. He will be booked for felony charges.”
David Depape: Who is the suspect who attacked Paul Pelosi? (kron4.com)
What are his injuries :?
Yeah. It certainly gives the appearance of something fishy going on.
I absolutely agree that the press reports (press, not compliant press) are confusing. Some of the reasons you mentioned. However, implying conspiracy based on compliance is ridiculous. More likely, you're suffering from paranoia.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Initial reports about an event are often muddled, but they eventually iron out. Are you aware that the far right is calling this a "false flag" - that Nancy Pelosi engineered the attack herself, putting her husband in the hospital with brain damage?
Millions believe that. I hope you're not one of them.
no I'm more into the late night, oiled up ,Greko-Roman wresting match getting out of control theory .
Good for you.....Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
It would not be the 1st time he rear ended someone .
I'm not even going to ask what this means!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I'm aware of that, but I still don't get the connection to the assault.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Wikipedia: In 1957, when Pelosi was still a minor, a car that he was driving was involved in an accident. His older brother David, who was a passenger in the car, died in the crash; Pelosi was subsequently acquitted of misdemeanor manslaughter.[14]
I'm no wiser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Was alcohol involved? They were teens. Has Pelosi struggled with alcoholism his entire life? This librarian is researching.
I have nothing else to add about his private life at this time .
When more info makes it to the web and so called reliable sources I'll comment further
Besides ;the real thing everyone should take from this attack is how Dem controlled cites are becoming lawless. In San Fran it has gotten so bad that even the rich and powerful are not immune.
yes and most likely involved in this incident too based on the 9-1-1 call report .Quote:
Was alcohol involved? They were teens. Has Pelosi struggled with alcoholism his entire life? This librarian is researching.
How do you figure?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Exactly correct.Quote:
Besides ;the real thing everyone should take from this attack is how Dem controlled cites are becoming lawless. In San Fran it has gotten so bad that even the rich and powerful are not immune.
Ok, good.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You just said you had nothing further to add!!Quote:
(alcohol) yes and most likely involved in this incident too based on the 9-1-1 call report
Come on, urban areas always have high crime rates. Pelosi was not attacked because he is rich and powerful. He was attacked because he is the husband of Nancy Pelosi.Quote:
Besides ;the real thing everyone should take from this attack is how Dem controlled cites are becoming lawless. In San Fran it has gotten so bad that even the rich and powerful are not immune.
Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House of Representatives in the Congress of the United States of America who was a target for the Trump insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the duly-elected government of the same United States of America. The Trump insurrectionists wanted to kill her along with Mike Pence. As Yogi would say, "You could look it up!".
Besides, the rural and small town Republican areas have a rise in crime rates also. How do you explain that?
Gross exaggeration, thy name is Athos. "Look it up?" OK, I'll take a shot at it.Quote:
Trump insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the duly-elected government of the same United States of America. The Trump insurrectionists wanted to kill her along with Mike Pence.
So far as I have been able to find out, two of the rioters who entered the Capitol building have been charged with possession of firearms. None of them ever fired a shot. So if this was indeed an insurrection, it was certainly a pathetically weak one. There seems to have been no planning and no command or coordination. The people were essentially unarmed and never threatened any member of Congress with death or assault. I know of no evidence of any intent to kill anyone, but if anyone can point to some, then by all means do so.
Jill Sanborn, an FBI official, in her sworn testimony to a Senate committee investigating the riot said this when asked how many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on its grounds on Jan. 6. “To my knowledge we have not recovered any on that day from any of the arrests at the scene at this point. But I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but to my knowledge none.”
Sanborn later noted that investigators found a firearm in a search of a vehicle that also had Molotov cocktails. The only shots fired that day, she said, were from an officer who shot and killed a woman inside the Capitol.
Fact check: FBI says bureau didn't recover guns at Capitol riot (usatoday.com)
Perhaps the great, unanswered question concerns why the security for the Congress was so weak.
If someone want to criticize Trump for taking far, far too long to tell the demonstrators to go home, then I'm with you on that one.
Jl inconvenient facts . Most of the "insurrectionists " entered the Capitol armed with cameras to take selfies .
Tomder, you can't possibly be serious about this. After over a year of PROVEN documentation - visual, audio, paper, and over 800 arrests EIGHT HUNDRED!!!!!) - you still think it was just a bunch of folks "entering the Capitol armed with cameras to take selfies"? Please say it ain't so, Tomder.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
When you write things like this, it makes all of us wonder what else do you have such a wildly incorrect take on.
Excited, happy tourists on January 6!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vbBIcwn6rRA
In this morning's newspaper:
WASHINGTON — The man accused of attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband carried zip ties with him when he broke into the couple’s San Francisco home,
Anyone who watches that video and says it was "selfie picture taking" is a major problem. After so much time has passed, we now know the problem is less with the insurrectionists (they can be jailed, and are) but the viewers like Tomder who deny the evidence of their own eyes which has become the greater problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Not content with violence, they are now sabotaging any future election that don't like. It is definitely a FACT that they are trying to eliminate democracy for an authoritarian system of government which will soon become fascism. This is NOT hyperbole.
If it's all so "proven", then present the documentation to bake up that claim...like I did to back up mine.Quote:
Tomder, you can't possibly be serious about this. After over a year of PROVEN documentation - visual, audio, paper, and over 800 arrests EIGHT HUNDRED!!!!!) - you still think it was just a bunch of folks "entering the Capitol armed with cameras to take selfies"?
Uhm...that had nothing to do with the 1/6 conversation. Besides, that man was a Green party, pro public nudity dingbat and hardly a right winger.Quote:
WASHINGTON — The man accused of attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband carried zip ties with him when he broke into the couple’s San Francisco home,
As to your video, it was certainly disturbing and should never have happened. However, did you notice guns? Did you notice any real organization? Did you notice any armed attack resembling an insurrection? Did you see the part where a congressman/woman was threatened? In other words, where were the elements of a true insurrection???
How about the part where police reinforcements were called in, or where the National Guard, having wisely been prepositioned, were called in to help? Yeah, I didn't see that either. Wonder why not?
Yep, gotta "bake up" those claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
You want the video where the members of Congress are herded to safety? The part showing where pee and poop are splashed and smeared on floors and walls? The insurrectionists climbing ladders outside in order to break Capitol windows and gain access? The entering of offices and trashing them, especially the video of the guy who plopped himself down into Pelosi's desk chair and paged through papers and journals? And so much more.Quote:
As to your video, it was certainly disturbing and should never have happened. However, did you notice guns? Did you notice any real organization? Did you notice any armed attack resembling an insurrection? Did you see the part where a congressman/woman was threatened? In other words, where were the elements of a true insurrection???
No, I'd just settle for some answers to these questions. Now since you never have the courage to do that, then I know you won't. Still...
Of course, you do have an excellent point about the poop and pee. As we all know, all successful insurrections have been led by the "poop and pee" brigade. [SARC]Quote:
As to your video, it was certainly disturbing and should never have happened. However, did you notice guns? Did you notice any real organization? Did you notice any armed attack resembling an insurrection? Did you see the part where a congressman/woman was threatened? In other words, where were the elements of a true insurrection???
How about the part where police reinforcements were called in, or where the National Guard, having wisely been prepositioned, were called in to help? Yeah, I didn't see that either. Wonder why not?
In case it has gone unnoticed, my objection is not to calling the 1/6 riot a terrible incident. I completely agree with that. My objection is to describing it as, "Trump insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the duly-elected government of the same United States of America. The Trump insurrectionists wanted to kill her along with Mike Pence." That is just childish hyperbole.
800 mostly trespassing arrests . The most prominent charges is "Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building." some have disorderly conduct added . I don;t see any charges involving firearms .
and this guy should be charged with inappropriate attire in the Capitol
https://www.politico.com/dims4/defau...94935351-1.jpg
I don't know about that. Doesn't E. Warren dress that way sometimes in honor of her 1/10 of 1% Native heritage?
JL, what was that mob doing at the Capitol on that lovely January day?
Typical tourist. Geez, give him a break, tomder!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
"Hang Mike Pence!"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94
The guy sprawled in Pelosi's desk chair:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1dsex9dMZ60
The vast majority were peaceful protestors. A significant number were basically rioting, you know like the rioters in Ferguson and a dozen other cities that you have been so critical of??? NOT!Quote:
JL, what was that mob doing at the Capitol that lovely January day?
No one will ever accuse you of being an equal opportunity criticizer.
Yeah, watch the videos of those peaceful protesters. Would you want them at your birthday party?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
4 x Emmy Award winning ;3 x Edward R Murrow Award winning reporter Bill Melugin is reporting that according to his ICE sources ; DePape is an illegal immigrants as a longtime visa overstay .
He must be one of those 'sparks of divinity' that Madam Mimi refers to
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