Anyone who does not kiss his um backside is worth insulting.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Okay. You want me gone? I won't interact with you any longer.Quote:
I have tried to block you before
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Anyone who does not kiss his um backside is worth insulting.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Okay. You want me gone? I won't interact with you any longer.Quote:
I have tried to block you before
I would have been happy if you had simply agreed to answer questions, or at least admit when, as is the case now, you have no answer. But do as you please. It's your decision.Quote:
Okay. You want me gone? I won't interact with you any longer.
Nope, not my decision. You want to block me but can't. So I'll take the bull by the horns.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I tried to block you recently but couldn't. I don't think I would choose to do so now even though you are enormously frustrating due to your refusal to simply answer direct questions. At any rate, it's your choice. Do with the bull's horns as you please. Just don't blame it on me. Take responsibility for your own actions.
And I thought we were agreeing more and more. Silly me!
We had been agreeing some! It's seemed to show some promise for sure. But really, let's try a simple exercise here. Did you provide a single example of Trump insulting a segment of the voting pop? If "yes", then please identify the example.
I will say that I appreciate your willingness to engage some. The other libs left the stage and threw it all in your lap. At least you are still working at it.
Trump insults a lot of people . He does not insult "groups " and more often than not he does it after he has been attacked . He's a New Yorker ;a place where the middle finger is the standard greeting .
I think Trump has more sense than to insult a significant group of voters. The closest time I can think of was when he made the poor decision to accuse Mexico of sending many rapists across the border. "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you…They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists." That could certainly have been insulting to Latino voters in the U.S. Still, it was a far cry from Biden's latest effort, and it was not a direct insult to voters in America.
yeah not all illegal border crossers are rapists and druggies .
He insulted a significant group of voters -- all women of any party and no party -- when a tape emerged from when he was a Republican candidate, that he had earlier bragged about using his fame to try and “****” women and grope them without waiting for their consent.
Nah. That was directed at a few women he had been with. It was indeed a dumb comment, but not a direct insult at all women. It merely put him on the same vulgar level as Bill Clinton, and granted that is a pretty low level, but it was hardly a direct insult at women as a voting group.Quote:
He insulted a significant group of voters -- all women of any party and no party -- when a tape emerged when he was a Republican candidate, that he had earlier bragged about using his fame to try and “****” women and grope them without waiting for their consent.
But it was closer than your other efforts. I'll grant you that.
You really need material like this. These are negative remarks directly aimed at a significant voting group.
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HC. "But what the map doesn’t show you is that I won the places that represent two-thirds of America’s gross domestic product. So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward."
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
BO. "And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
He lost me and my church women friends with that remark and with his mocking of the disabled reporter. "How cruel this man is! We do not want him as our president!"Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
it was a juvenile locker room comment between 2 people that was captured on a hot mike . The comments jl posted were meant for public consumption by candidates .
It showed who he is. And still is. I would not ever ever be alone with that man.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
as opposed to Creepy Peda - Joe . His daughter Ashley's diary says that he showered with her when she was a child . She wrote in the diary that that was “probably not appropriate”
This is not an isolated incident . There have been multiple cases of inappropriate touching witnessed by many He caresses the faces, heads, necks, shoulders, arms, and hair of women and girls often in plain view, in front of cameras
Touching allegations have been made by former Nevada state assemblywoman Lucy Flores. His former senate staffer, Tara Reade, has claimed that he sexually assaulted her.
This is what bothers me about WG. If it's Trump, then she goes off the deep end with criticism. If it's Biden or another liberal dem, then it's crickets. Selective outrage is never a good idea.
The topic of conversation was Trump. I didn't throw in my opinion of Al Franken or George H.W. or Santa Claus.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Look at your own post 12 to see how you just told a wild tale.
Speak English please. My Post #12: "And how did Biden respond?"Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
The entire thread was about Biden’s controversial speech.
So you told a wild tale.
Not in Post #12.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Even worse, look at what you said in post 9.
So when you try to suggest the thread, or even just your involvement in the thread, was only about Trump ("The topic of conversation was Trump."), then you are telling a wild tale. Amazing how often you forget that these posts stick around after you make them.Quote:
Did you miss Biden's response to the heckler?
But already I know you will not be honest and simply admit to it. It's just not what you do. I keep hoping that one day I might see a hopeful ray of honesty from you, but so far it's not been good. Still, I keep hope alive!!
The topic of conversation (the side road) AT THAT TIME*, not the thread's topic. I was responding to tomder.
*Tom's post just before mine: "I'm sure those Marines in the backround really enjoyed being props in his hate-fest."
Me: "And how did Biden respond?"
And we were talking about Trump in another side-road conversation:
Me: It showed who he is. And still is. I would not ever ever be alone with that man.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You mentioned Biden yourself and then tried to claim the thread was about Trump. Bad, bad.
Your Post #44 is a diatribe against me. You were definitely off the Biden topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
And your post 66 is a vain attempt at deflection.
Diatribe? Here's a "diatribe". "That is a big fat lie and you know it! I may not give the answers YOU want -- an entirely different thing. And I have fenced with you to try to get to the sense of what you're asking." It was especially disturbing considering the fact that your refusal to answer questions is practically legendary.
btw I see scores of people wearing MAGA (Make America Great Again ) hats . I have not seen anyone wearing a Build Back Better hat . just saying .
Donald Trump and Clueless both held rallies in Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania this week. Trump packed an arena . Clueless could not fill the fold up bleachers of a high school gymnasium
I really wonder if Biden's hot rhetoric is not working to Trump's advantage. I don't think he can "out-Trump" Trump.
especially since he cut a clear dividing line between what he and the semi socialist Dems stand for and the Trump MAGA
Meanwhile maybe the Dems should concern themselves with the fact that so far with more than a day left of the holiday weekend there have been 5 dead and 33 wounded on the streets of Chi-town.
It's OK so long as they were not killed/wounded with an AR-15.Quote:
Meanwhile maybe the Dems should concern themselves with the fact that so far with more than a day left of the holiday weekend there have been 5 dead and 33 wounded on the streets of Chi-town.
The Dems ,as expected , keep on expanding the ranks of who they think are radical 'Maga Republicans' . By election time half of the country will be smeared with the label
“MAGA Republican” Is a Distinction Without a Difference | The Nation
How's this for a window into their thinking ?
The only way to fix the opposing party in American politics is to give them such an electoral drubbing that they will have no choice but to behave differently.
Alarmingly, the country may not have the time to spare to allow that uncertain prospect to play out. Unelected right-wing judges and safely gerrymandered Republican state legislative majorities are already in place and getting increasingly comfortable with doing away with the messy inconveniences of democracy when it suits their goals. If Democrats are fortunate enough to retain their hold on one or both chambers of Congress after the upcoming midterms, the only viable strategy to preclude the right’s plans for an American politics resembling those of Viktor Orbán’s Hungary or Vladimir Putin’s Russia will be an aggressive program of limiting the powers of the federal courts stuffed with Trump appointees happy to rubber-stamp anything that will enable right-wing minority rule for the foreseeable future.
There are two kinds of liars. There are those who speak lies because they are convinced they are actually telling the truth. They can be called, I suppose, "deceived liars". Then there are those who lie knowingly with a purpose in mind. Think Goebbels of the Nazis. I am convinced that many in the left-wing media and many liberal dems are in the second category, so the question becomes this. What purpose do they have in mind?
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