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  • Aug 16, 2021, 01:17 PM
    tomder55
    Quid : we will retreat swiftly and forcefully .

    "We were clear-eyed about the risk. We planned for every contingency."

    The buck stops with me.”EXCEPT, I will blame everyone else and then tout the Bin Laden killing, which I opposed!
  • Aug 16, 2021, 01:38 PM
    jlisenbe
    "We planned for every contingency but this one!"

    Well, the good news is they're setting records at the southern border for illegal crossings and have no control over the latest Covid spike. No...uhm, wait a minute.
  • Aug 16, 2021, 02:17 PM
    tomder55
    Is Jen Psaki the new Baghdad Bob ?

    https://external-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...HL1sPW_xMXGfr8
  • Aug 16, 2021, 03:12 PM
    paraclete
    The White House has planned for every contingency, even joining the Taliban
  • Aug 16, 2021, 03:15 PM
    jlisenbe
    Latest headline. "Biden admin plans transfer of power to Taliban killers once fighters agree to treat women better"

    Earth to Biden. I think the transfer of power has already pretty much taken place.
  • Aug 16, 2021, 03:19 PM
    paraclete
    Yeh, like that is going to happen afterall you have their word for it
  • Aug 16, 2021, 03:44 PM
    jlisenbe
    You mean the Taliban can't be trusted? We really should let Mr. Biden be aware of that.
  • Aug 16, 2021, 04:12 PM
    tomder55
    I was wrong ... Madam Mim wins the Baghdad Bob award

    "The President is to be commended for his strong leadership and exceptional focus on bringing American military involvement in Afghanistan to an end. He does so ensuring that Americans and our Afghan partners make it to safety as soon as possible"
  • Aug 16, 2021, 05:05 PM
    paraclete
    Yes now your retreat, eh! rout, is complete. You can focus on other things, such as repelling the hordes on your southern border. Oh wait, you already tried that and have been routed there too. You should have kept Mexico when you conquered it. The Aztec revenge is at hand
  • Aug 16, 2021, 05:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Bitterness must be such a heavy burden for you.
  • Aug 16, 2021, 05:36 PM
    paraclete
    No I'm lighthearted, can't you tell? I don't carry burdens whereas you carry the burden of manifest destiny

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He does so ensuring that Americans and our Afghan partners make it to safety as soon as possible"

    one C17 does not an exodus make, someone should tell Joe to wake up
  • Aug 16, 2021, 05:43 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. That must surely be it. “Lighthearted”.
  • Aug 16, 2021, 06:07 PM
    paraclete
    Remember the words of the 23rd Psalm
  • Aug 17, 2021, 02:40 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    one C17 does not an exodus make, someone should tell Joe to wake up
    consider this scenario. There is NO security check of the Afghans that have swarmed into the airport. All that is needed is one suicide bomber clinging to a C-17 as it attempts to lift off . Evac operations over . The military there would have to forcefully clear the runway and set a hard perimeter at the point of the gun. Video that goes viral is a smoldering C-17 ;dead civilians ,and US troops firing on Afghan civilians .

    The person who decided to leave Bagram and to attempt an evac from an airport in the middle of the city should be executed .
  • Aug 17, 2021, 04:48 AM
    jlisenbe
    Just an unbelievably incompetent and botched evacuation/withdrawal. It's as though no one put one ounce of thought into it. This is after Biden promised us all that the withdrawal of our forces would not result in the same experiences we saw in South Vietnam.
  • Aug 17, 2021, 04:50 AM
    tomder55
    After he blamed Trump ,the Afghanis ,almost anyone else for the disaster he said "the buck stops here " .
  • Aug 17, 2021, 04:52 AM
    jlisenbe
    "The buck stops here after, of course, it first makes a couple of dozen stops elsewhere, by which time it is only worth a nickel."
  • Aug 17, 2021, 04:52 AM
    tomder55
    He said he was just following Trump's policy. If that is so then why didn't he adopt other Trump policies like closing the border , prosperous economy , tax cuts etc. ?
  • Aug 17, 2021, 04:54 AM
    jlisenbe
    Was he incapable of formulating his own policies? You know, like he did when he opened the military to TG's?

    Where have all the liberal dems on this site gone? Did they just give up?
  • Aug 17, 2021, 05:23 AM
    tomder55
    Here is another interesting factoid . Khairullah Khairkhwa, a Taliban commander, was released from GITMO n 2014 by the emperor in exchange for deserter/traitor Bowe Bergdahl. Khairkhwa was part of the Taliban delegation that negotiated the final terms of the withdrawal of US troops. .

    Others released along with Khairkhwa were Mohammed Nabi, who served as chief of security for the Taliban in Qalat; Mohammad Fazl, who according to Human Rights Watch allegedly presided over the mass killing of Shiite Muslims in Afghanistan in 2000 and 2001; Abdul Haq Wasiq, who served as the Taliban deputy minister of intelligence and Mullah Norullah Nori, who was a senior Taliban commander in Mazar-e-Sharif in 2001.
  • Aug 17, 2021, 05:42 AM
    paraclete
    fellow travellers all and all on a departing C17, no doubt
  • Aug 18, 2021, 05:09 AM
    tomder55
    Quid campaign was going to cooperate with the allies ,especially NATO ,and keep communication and dialogue open ;in contrast to the unilateral Trump. But all I am hearing is shock shock shock that Quid ;the adult in the room apparently did his thoughtless withdrawal without any consultation and coordination with our NATO allies . 10s of thousands of them are stranded ;not only in Kabul ,but throughout Afghanistan.

    Boris Johnson recalled the government from vacation. British Ambassador Sir Laurie Bristow could've bailed . But he stayed behind in Kabul and is helping coordinate the Brit evacuation and processing visas .

    Contrast that with Congress not being recalled ;with Quid only showing up at the White House to regurgitate a speech full of lies and contradictions that someone else wrote for him before he went back to his bunker in Camp David .US ambassador to Afghanistan Ross Wilson was one of the first evacuated and one of the 1st to leave the country . Americans in Kabul are being told by our military to make their way to the airport ;that the Taliban will safeguard their passage . The State Dept is telling all Americans in Afghanistan to 'shelter in place '.
  • Aug 18, 2021, 05:14 AM
    jlisenbe
    The primary thing is to wear their masks and use the appropriate pronouns for any TG folks they might encounter.

    I wonder who the Taliban is going to safeguard our people from, the Taliban?
  • Aug 18, 2021, 06:00 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The primary thing is to wear their masks and use the appropriate pronouns for any TG folks they might encounter.

    I wonder who the Taliban is going to safeguard our people from, the Taliban?

    The Taliban have said they would, they said it didn't they? Maybe it is a new day and Muslim doesn't speak with forked tongue. Then again old habits die hard

    https://www.news.com.au/world/middle...7fd0be28a266ec
  • Aug 18, 2021, 06:22 AM
    tomder55
    maybe from all those prisoners they unleashed on the city when they emptied the jails .
  • Aug 18, 2021, 06:28 AM
    paraclete
    don't make excuses for them, they are afterall Muslim extremists
  • Aug 18, 2021, 10:32 AM
    tomder55
    Safe passage to the airport .... I wonder what deal Quid pro Joe arranged . Was Hunter involved ? Maybe it was leaving the military hardware behind ? just speculating .Are there pallets of cash loaded on one of the C-17s ? It worked in negotiations with Iran.

    Afghans are desperately erasing their internet histories Many are worried that any trace of promoting education or work with westerns, military or civilian NGOs will risk reprisal. At the same time ,many Afghans also need that information to get the necessary visas to leave. They can't carry the necessary documentation because they don't want to risk carrying that through Taliban check points .
  • Aug 18, 2021, 05:35 PM
    jlisenbe
    Can you imagine the outrage if, while Trump was on vacation, Afghanistan had fallen into total chaos? And then Trump leaves his vacation long enough to make a speech basically blaming it on everyone but himself, and then returned to his vacation as though nothing serious had happened? The liberal news media would have exploded!
  • Aug 18, 2021, 05:46 PM
    paraclete
    Joe needs his rest, being president and having to make a decision is exhausting
  • Aug 19, 2021, 11:06 AM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...8a&oe=61448763
  • Aug 19, 2021, 04:46 PM
    paraclete
    Biden in two minds again, typical politician
  • Aug 20, 2021, 05:00 AM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...57&oe=6124D79F

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