Two word answer. Liberal dems.Quote:
Wonder why we didn't. Hmm....
Kind of the difference between "legal" and "illegal". Not real complicated.Quote:
And you have NO IDEA of the difference.
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Two word answer. Liberal dems.Quote:
Wonder why we didn't. Hmm....
Kind of the difference between "legal" and "illegal". Not real complicated.Quote:
And you have NO IDEA of the difference.
Yeah, right, they were in charge of the federal government for the past four years.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
And I'd be singing hymns in heaven without illegals.Quote:
Kind of the difference between "legal" and "illegal". Not real complicated.
Two fascinating and revealing replies to the same question on immigration --
The first one is from WG:
At the border, he should install many checkpoints that include medical stations to give vaccinations and do physical and mental exams, temporary housing, child care, food stations, transportation to pre-set locations once approval has been granted, and translators. (If I were younger, I'd help.)
This one is from Jlsenbe:
Or just build a wall.
Which one is the Christian?
They were in charge of the House the past two years, and the House is in charge of initiating spending. But I would certainly agree that it would have been great if more had been done.Quote:
Yeah, right, they were in charge of the federal government for the past four years.
I have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
And I'd be singing hymns in heaven without illegals.
You should know by now that I am never, never, never impressed by anyone's morality based upon a theoretical call for spending someone else's money on an unproven idea. If you think that's what it means to be a Christian, then you know very little about the faith.Quote:
Which one is the Christian?
I had developed aplastic anemia in April and almost died on May 8, 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Thank God you survived. What does that have to do with illegal immigration?Quote:
I had developed aplastic anemia in April and almost died on May 8, 2018.
Are the hospitals in Chi-town hiring illegals ? I kinda doubt it .
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. Not trying to make light of the situation, but I would imagine that legal doctors, nurses, and pharmacists actually were the major players. Hard to imagine otherwise.
Unless the disease is treated with blood transfusions. Then you need donors. The donors aren't always professionals.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Is memory becoming a problem too??? I had posted just above this that I'd be singing hymns in heaven if it weren't for immigrants and most likely a few illegal immigrants.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
One transfusion in the ER, three more during the next 18 hours. And the hospitals are staffed by far more types than doctors, nurses, and pharmacists -- aside to tomder to consider CNAs, lab techs and gofers, orderlies, and even the custodians who helped me polish my Spanish.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Your point about diverse hospital staff is well taken WG, and especially during covid, seriously undermanned, and Biden just released his immigration plan to address that legal/illegal question. I hope this leads to humane and fair, safe processing of humans.
I remember it well. The question is which illegal immigrants helped you. Doctors? Nurses? CNAs? Custodians? Pharmacists? How did you know that some ESSENTIAL services were provided by illegals and you would not have gotten them without those illegal immigrants? Is this like the "I live on a modest income and am a monied republican making over a quarter mil a year" statement?Quote:
Is memory becoming a problem too??? I had posted just above this that I'd be singing hymns in heaven if it weren't for immigrants and most likely a few illegal immigrants.
And they told you that they were illegals providing these services??? I find that one hard to believe.Quote:
One transfusion in the ER, three more during the next 18 hours. And the hospitals are staffed by far more types than doctors, nurses, and pharmacists -- aside to tomder to consider CNAs, lab techs and gofers, orderlies, and even the custodians who helped me polish my Spanish.
I imagine Chi-town hospitals use E Verify like most legit employers .
I wouldn't mind a program of green cards to nurses and medically trained illegals.
That is a wonderful idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Has been being done for decades. Over 14 million people in the U.S. have green cards.Quote:
That is a wonderful idea!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_card
Something simpler than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Hmm. It's simple enough that fourteen million people have figured it out.
That's ALL???Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Yeah. Only equivalent to the population of three Alabamas. Go figure.
I dearly love my hardworking, dedicated Asian, Filipino, African, and Mexican healthcare providers!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I'm glad you do, but that has nothing to do with illegal immigration.Quote:
I dearly love my hardworking, dedicated Asian, Filipino, African, and Mexican healthcare providers!
you mean like this ?
Health Care Worker Certification | USCIS
That worker would not be an illegal
That's pretty much the whole point Tom. There is a procedure in place already to process migrants and further certify those with skills. It just has to be properly used.
And again .... no one has an issue with legal immigration . 10s of thousands bum rushing the boarder is intolerable . If they are here on a visa program they are not illegal
It's just amazing that it has to be said over and over again. It's as though the liberal dems have decided that regardless of what the truth is, they just have to be right.Quote:
no one has an issue with legal immigration . 10s of thousands bum rushing the boarder is intolerable . If they are here on a visa program they are not illegal
Why are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Who were these illegals you said saved your life? You haven't identified them.
It would not be in their best interests if I IDed them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Not names. Just some description of how you knew they were illegals.
They told me. That's why I got a master's in counseling psych -- people tell me very personal things. E.g., I was helping one older patron look for a non-fiction book. He bent over (I'm short) and whispered to me that he had started to drink his own urine to recapture any vitamins that might have been "expelled". One day a patron came in, threw her upper body across the circ counter, put her arms over her head, and groaned. "I just can't go on. Help me!" I pulled her aside to a quiet corner and talked briefly with her. That's the day I knew my future lay in counseling.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
WHO told you? You are saying that certified med personnel just decided to come up and tell you that they were illegal aliens?
Because some organizer in Honduras tells them they can escape poverty and that when Quid is President that he will open the borders to them . They don't just decide to start walking north . Someone is organizing the caravans . They are told they can claim asylum even though there is nothing in US law that permits people to be granted asylum for economic reasons .Quote:
Why are they?
I know one of the organizing group names . Pueblo Sin Fronteras .And they are funded by George Soros 'Open Society Foundations .'
No, YOU made that leap.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I can't believe he made that comment. He says the most ridiculous things when he jousts with you. God knows what he'll want next - photo IDs, SSNs, affadavits?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I asked, " Just some description of how you knew they were illegals." You answered, "They told me. That's why I got a master's in counseling psych -- people tell me very personal things." I concluded, "You are saying that certified med personnel just decided to come up and tell you that they were illegal aliens?" So yeah, when you claim that you knew they were illegals because, "They told," you, then people do tend to conclude that...they told you they were illegal aliens. I know. Shocking isn't it?
I supposed they were certified med personnel because you say they saved your life. I think we can safely assume that a custodian, hair stylist, or cab driver didn't accomplish that.
But maybe you meant they actually told you they were Dallas Cowboys fans? I think we are back to another of those "modest income making more than a quarter mil a year" kind of statements, or those half-baked and inaccurate Aquinas quotes. Truthfully, I think you interchange legal and illegal immigrants in your mind so much that you just routinely exchange one for the other in conversations here.
Your conclusion is incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
There were no hair stylists or cab drivers involved.Quote:
I supposed they were certified med personnel because you say they saved your life. I think we can safely assume that a custodian, hair stylist, or cab driver didn't accomplish that.
I still think that was exactly what you were saying. It would seem you painted yourself into a corner by trying to claim that illegals saved your life. Now you are trying to retreat from saying that the med personnel who worked on you were illegals. Well, you can't have it both ways. The people who saved your life were either legal med personnel or the medical equivalent of migrant farm workers.Quote:
Your conclusion is incorrect.
Rather than the usual protests of, "I didn't say A, I said B," why not just explain how it was that illegal immigrants saved your life? Or perhaps you just got the story mixed up?
Business Lobby: Amnesty Is Good for CEOs and Government (breitbart.com)Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Cheap labor, think where the products for American box stores comes from.
My FIRST quote: "I'd be singing hymns in heaven if it weren't for immigrants and most likely a few illegal immigrants."Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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