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  • Jan 23, 2021, 02:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    Where you been? Hadn't seen a post from you in several days. Glad you're back.
  • Jan 24, 2021, 12:59 PM
    paraclete
    Oh i dropped in for a quad bi pass had to take a break
  • Jan 24, 2021, 03:31 PM
    jlisenbe
    Good grief. Prayers for a solid recovery.
  • Jan 24, 2021, 05:04 PM
    tomder55
    Clete prayers for a complete recovery .
  • Jan 25, 2021, 11:30 AM
    talaniman
    Hope you have a speedy recovery Clete.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 12:52 PM
    paraclete
    Thank you for your good wishes things are going well
  • Jan 25, 2021, 01:20 PM
    jlisenbe
    I have a relative who went through that a couple of months ago. He said it was heck for several weeks. Hope that is not the case with you.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 04:20 PM
    jlisenbe
    Can you imagine the furor on this board if Trump had said this? ""If we fail to act, there will be a wave of evictions and foreclosures in the coming months as this pandemic rages on, because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months," Biden said.

    This is just Biden setting us up for his total inability to effect change.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 05:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months," Biden said.

    What's your plan to change the pandemic's trajectory during the next several months?

    P.S. No one can. Trump let it get this bad because he decided it would soon disappear so didn't worry about or consider a vaccine.

    The pandemic cannot be tamed during the next several months. Did you read the entire speech -- or just cherry-pick that sentence?
  • Jan 25, 2021, 05:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    P.S. No one can.
    Funny you don't say that until a liberal dem who needs LOTS of excuses is in the WH.

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    Trump let it get this bad because he decided it would soon disappear so didn't worry about or consider a vaccine.
    That is an incredible statement. We developed a vaccine in record time and are using it now. It should be called the Trump vaccine by every honest and fair-minded person.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 05:49 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Funny you don't say that until a liberal dem who needs LOTS of excuses is in the WH.

    For half a year or more, when we could have been wearing masks and social distancing for prevention purposes, Trump was still saying covid was a big, fat nothing. And we should stop testing because it shows too many covid positives.
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    That is an incredible statement. We developed a vaccine in record time and are using it now. It should be called the Trump vaccine by every honest and fair-minded person.
    Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine development. Do some library research about coronaviruses! Plus, he had no coronavirus vaccine distribution plan to speak of.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 05:57 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    What's your plan to change the pandemic's trajectory during the next several months?
    The truth is that the Christmas surge is already in decline and Quid most likely knows it .
  • Jan 25, 2021, 06:15 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The truth is that the Christmas surge is already in decline and Quid most likely knows it .

    Nope. There's now a mutant or variant version swirling.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 06:20 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The truth is that the Christmas surge is already in decline and Quid most likely knows it .

    Everybody knows it, but doesn't mean its over, just we went through another wave. We still have to increase vaccine PRODUCTION and get people vaccinated faster.

    Joe full well knows that too!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Nope. There's now a mutant or variant version swirling.

    That and Merck has scrapped it's vaccine program.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 08:16 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That is an incredible statement. We developed a vaccine in record time and are using it now

    Who's "we" - you got a mouse in your pocket?

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    . It should be called the Trump vaccine by every honest and fair-minded person.
    Be honest now. Are you here strictly for comic relief? You sure can throw out some whoppers!
  • Jan 25, 2021, 08:31 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    For half a year or more, when we could have been wearing masks and social distancing for prevention purposes, Trump was still saying covid was a big, fat nothing.
    That's not true. And for that matter, when masks first began to be seen as necessary, they sold out in about five minutes and it took weeks to get ramped up to supply them in sufficient numbers.

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    Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine development.
    It was the Trump administration that spurred the development of that vaccine in record time. Who do you think did it? Pelosi?

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    Who's "we" - you got a mouse in your pocket?
    You know, "we", kind of like the United States of America? Kind of like, "We the people"??? Remember now?

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    Be honest now. Are you here strictly for comic relief? You sure can throw out some whoppers!
    Being honest is not a problem for me. I'm not a liberal dem.
  • Jan 25, 2021, 09:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That's not true. And for that matter, when masks first began to be seen as necessary, they sold out in about five minutes and it took weeks to get ramped up to supply them in sufficient numbers.

    Of course, the sensible libs wore masks and social distanced. Trump was forced to wear a mask twice and always turned rallies and other social occasions into superspreader events. His supporters also eschewed following the rules.
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    It was the Trump administration that spurred the development of that vaccine in record time. Who do you think did it? Pelosi?
    You haven't done your homework on coronaviruses, have you. Tsk!
  • Jan 26, 2021, 05:14 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Of course, the sensible libs wore masks and social distanced. Trump was forced to wear a mask twice and always turned rallies and other social occasions into superspreader events. His supporters also eschewed following the rules.
    You mean like the many dozens of democrat tolerated "peaceful demonstrations" that occurred? You mean like that? I don't have a problem with the masks. I wear mine when I'm supposed to, but the use of masks has become widespread and yet the virus is still is high gear, so I'm not convinced they are much more than marginally effective outside of the N95 medical masks that virtually no one uses. I suppose that staying at home is the most effective measure, but that's not possible and even Biden knows that. Even dem governors are having to face the music on that aspect of prevention.

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    You haven't done your homework on coronaviruses, have you. Tsk!
    That one statement certainly seems to indicate that you don't know how the vaccine was developed. It's rather equivalent to saying, "I don't know much about the virus, so I'll just say 'Tsk!' and hope it sounds otherwise." Sorry, but it didn't work. But if you REALLY want to do "your homework", here's a good place to start. And this is coming from someone who actually has done his homework.

    https://news.yahoo.com/covid-vaccine...V-RW9s2Gel-bBQ
  • Jan 26, 2021, 08:12 AM
    talaniman
    Do you need the link AGAIN about the corona virus?

    Coronavirus History: How did coronavirus start? (webmd.com)

    Many good embedded links.
  • Feb 24, 2021, 11:15 AM
    jlisenbe
    It will be interesting to see if the Kavanaugh accusers on this site are as quick to accept this lady's accusations against Cuomo as they were to accept the half-baked, unsupported accusations made against Kavanaugh.

    Could Cuomo be the next serious candidate to be blacklisted by the cancel crowd?

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuo...ombshell-essay

    "A former aide to Gov. Andrew Cuomo is accusing the embattled New York leader of sexually harassing her -- including unwanted kissing and touching -- and says his top female staffers "normalized" the behavior. Lindsey Boylan, the former deputy secretary for economic development and special adviser to the governor, said Cuomo constantly sought her out and had staffers arrange meetings with her, where he made inappropriate comments. "
  • Feb 24, 2021, 01:00 PM
    talaniman
    One would hope they would investigate and a lot more seriously than the one Kavanaugh had.
  • Feb 24, 2021, 02:02 PM
    tomder55
    wait weren't we told the woman must be believed ?
  • Feb 24, 2021, 02:38 PM
    talaniman
    Trust but VERIFY!

    Natch!
  • Feb 24, 2021, 02:47 PM
    jlisenbe
    “Weren’t we told the woman must be believed?”

    Only when they are accusing republicans. What a boatload of hypocrisy.
  • Feb 25, 2021, 05:39 AM
    jlisenbe
    And it continues. The hypocrisy of the left wing media is incredible. "ABC, CBS, NBC avoid explosive sexual harassment claims against Andrew Cuomo on evening news broadcasts."

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-cb...ual-harassment
  • Feb 25, 2021, 06:07 AM
    tomder55
    Shouldn't surprise you . Tara Reade accused Quid of far worse than that and most people don't even know about it .
  • Feb 27, 2021, 07:59 PM
    jlisenbe
    Now there is a second accuser of Cuomo concerning sexual misconduct. Waiting on KH, HC, NP, and others who so willingly believed Kavanaugh's accuser to step forward and call for an investigation. For that matter, waiting on the three amigos on this site, who were all too happy to believe Kavanaugh's accuser, to call for an investigation.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sec...assment-report
  • Feb 28, 2021, 05:40 AM
    tomder55
    Politicians will circle the wagons defending one of their own .....at least until the indefensible happens or that person develops some powerful enemies or stands in the way etc . Political fortunes are made and broken in the blink of an eye

    il Duce Cuomo was the media darling with his colloquial language .He wrote a book on leadership during the covid crisis. He was in line for a run at the presidency if Quid lost ,or in a primay challenge with VP Harris for the position in 2024 .Or he may make a run at a 4th term ;something that eluded his old man .Or go for a position in Quid's administration once he finished his box checking appointments .

    It was no secret how badly he blew it with the nursing homes with his March 25th directive . But he had an image to maintain . Thus the coverup .

    His misogyny was also well known and covered up . You could also add his homophobia . When he was running his old man's mayoral campaign against Ed Koch (a closet homosexual at the time ) ;il Duce put out an ad that said 'Vote for Cuomo Not the Homo .' .

    I'm going to go with the powerful enemy argument . Guessing the Dems are clearing the field for Harris in 2024. Quid will either serve one term or be gone shortly (Harris has already assumed a lot of the foreign policy functions ) .Newsom they are doing the recall thingy . Cuomo they are making toxic . They may recruit NY prosecutors in the cause . I think he is already dead but just doesn't know it .

    When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,

    I all alone beweep my outcast state,

    And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,

    And look upon myself and curse my fate,
    (Sonnet 29 ....Shakespeare .)
  • Feb 28, 2021, 05:56 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    He wrote a book on leadership during the covid crisis.
    More likely written by someone else.

    And as you mentioned earlier, the "Me Too" crowd just elected a man who has a very credible sexual assault charge lodged against him that went far beyond words or relatively innocent touches. That's what makes all of this so sickening. Liberal dems who love to preen and claim the moral high ground when it is to their advantage become eerily silent when the time comes to take a principled stand against their own. I saw video last night of HC telling us how she found Kavanaugh's accuser to be "credible". She should know how an abused woman's accusation could sound credible since she saw Monica Lewinsky's accusations against ole Bill turn out to be the very definition of "credible".

    It would at least be nice for some of those high profile liberal dems to be honest enough to come forward and say the truth. "We don't care about these women. We care about power, so we're not going to say a peep against Cuomo until the time comes when it is more profitable politically to speak out than it is to be quiet." For that matter, it would be nice if the three amigos on this board would do the same. They would not be saying anything that we all don't already know. It would be far from shocking.
  • Feb 28, 2021, 06:34 AM
    jlisenbe
    And right on cue we get this. "Cuomo team names judge to ‘review’ gov’s sex scandal." It can't get much more cynical than that. So now the accused gets to pick his own "judge" to review criminal accusations against him? Shame Trump didn't know that. He could have simply picked a judge to "review" the impeachment charges against him. Would've been much more simple and predictable.

    "But critics of Cuomo quickly noted that Jones (the judge) is a former law-firm colleague of Steve Cohen, a former top aide to Cuomo."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cyn...vs-sex-scandal
  • Feb 28, 2021, 12:44 PM
    tomder55
    another Moreland commission white wash.
  • Feb 28, 2021, 05:33 PM
    tomder55
    (16) Andrew Cuomo on Twitter: "Elected leaders have a responsibility to stand up for survivors of sexual abuse. Senate Republicans must #BelieveSurvivors." / Twitter
  • Feb 28, 2021, 06:40 PM
    jlisenbe
    Very disappointed at the non response of some on this board. It says a lot.
  • Feb 28, 2021, 07:16 PM
    paraclete
    Ok Tom I'm on record as saying survivors of sexual abuse are to be believed and action taken. But I don't know what you want afterall this is a no brainer.
  • Mar 1, 2021, 08:50 AM
    talaniman
    The NY AG is heading the investigation as it should be. Whatever happened to the old school slap across the face as a consequence for stealing a kiss? Or a kick in the nuts? Nevermind it's not worth the death penalty for these women.
  • Mar 2, 2021, 05:48 AM
    jlisenbe
    And now it's three. That number corresponds to the number of the three silent amigos.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/gov-cuomo-...posts_card_hed
  • Mar 2, 2021, 09:32 AM
    talaniman
    Can't wait for the investigations can you? You righties have no problem being silent about the dufus allegations a few of which are in the court process as we speak.

    Pot or kettle take your pick.
  • Mar 2, 2021, 11:20 PM
    paraclete
    forget Trump he is yesterday's man just like Biden
  • Mar 3, 2021, 04:17 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    forget Trump he is yesterday's man just like Biden

    Trump is still the leader of so many of the ill-informed and those seeking power and influence at the cost of serving their country.

    Biden is doing an excellent job informing the public about Covid and getting the vaccine into arms. He has 4 more years to show what he can do - hardly yesterday's man.
  • Mar 3, 2021, 05:08 AM
    jlisenbe
    Yep. Four more years of this.

    Quote:


    Iraq rocket fire targets base hosting US, coalition forces

    US military officials were expecting possible retaliation after President Biden ordered airstrikes in Syria last week
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/iraq-r...-forces-report

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