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  • Dec 9, 2020, 03:20 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Obama had eight years and didn't get it done. HC would have done it? Sure she would have.

    Point taken. Took him all eight years to get us within a point of the record low unemployment after the recession. Maybe if the dufus had another term he could have done better but obviously his first term was quite enough to get him booted for Obama's vice. I'll just note for the record that Obama got his second term without getting it all the way done but obviously whomever followed benefited from his work.

    Quote:

    Nah. One is a recognized malady that actually has a Wikipedia page, and you have an abundance of symptoms. The other is just an dumb comment.
    Your malady may not have Wikipedia page, but boy, do you have all the symptoms. You need emergency extraction immediately!
  • Dec 9, 2020, 04:19 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    of the record low unemployment
    Well, at least you are finally admitting that Trump got the job done. Progress!! Wonderful progress! Please accept my hardy congratulations.
  • Dec 9, 2020, 04:54 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well, at least you are finally admitting that Trump got the job done. Progress!! Wonderful progress! Please accept my hardy congratulations.

    He was talking about Obama patching up W's recession.
  • Dec 9, 2020, 05:44 PM
    jlisenbe
    Nope, not in the quote I gave.
  • Dec 9, 2020, 06:01 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Nope, not in the quote I gave.

    Comprehension problems here! Whose presidency lasted for eight years? Whose recession was it? (Your quote was from Tal's "Took him all eight years to get us within a point of the record low unemployment after the recession.")
  • Dec 9, 2020, 06:36 PM
    jlisenbe
    You haven’t been keeping up. Tal had basically said there were no records set. His statement above, however, was an affirmation that records had been set. So my comprehension was quite good as it turns out.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 05:11 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well, at least you are finally admitting that Trump got the job done. Progress!! Wonderful progress! Please accept my hardy congratulations.

    No he didn't he just took the credit. You just keep spinning stuff and it's no wonder your so dizzy. You get no credit for building a house if all you did was polish the doorknob.

    Are you crazy (Obviously a dumb question, but just as obviously a real concern)?
  • Dec 10, 2020, 05:40 AM
    jlisenbe
    Records were set under the Trump admin for which he gets credit. It cannot be denied. If I deny that, then I qualify as being crazy.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 10:22 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Records were set under the Trump admin for which he gets credit.

    He gave himself credit. His yes-people cheered him on.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 10:40 AM
    jlisenbe
    And Obama didn't give himself credit, including his "yes people" on this board? Your selective criticism is so typical of the symptoms of TDS.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    He gave himself credit. His yes-people cheered him on.

    Lots of Tweets and videos and rally quotes....

    What are your top three reasons for disliking Obama, JL?
  • Dec 10, 2020, 11:04 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Lots of Tweets and videos and rally quotes....
    And that was not true of Obama??? Stop your selective outrage. It is unbecoming for an intelligent person.

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    What are your top three reasons for disliking Obama, JL?
    I didn't dislike Obama which is why I don't waste my time making up insulting nicknames for him. I disliked his policies. 1. His enthusiastic support for abortion and his appointing fed judges who would support abortion. 2. His refusal to develop a balanced budget when he had 8 years to do it. 3. His outrageous lying about Benghazi in order to win an election. 4. His moving us down the road of socialism with Obamacare. 5. His weak as water economic recovery which was the slowest recovery from a recession in something like a hundred years. 6. His racist polices towards the police. 7. I can't blame Obama for this, but the unceasing support he had from a plainly biased and prejudiced press.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 02:31 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Records were set under the Trump admin for which he gets credit. It cannot be denied. If I deny that, then I qualify as being crazy.

    Bingo! At last you admit that because of warped thinking you give the dufus credit for his small part in setting a record Obama worked for that happened on the dufus watch. I notice the credit you give Obama for his working through his own financial downturn left by the other dufus is always described with sideways snark and derision, and criticism yet you expect all that to be forgotten as you pedestalize your dufus.

    Yeah that's crazy.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 02:35 PM
    jlisenbe
    Actually, I was just agreeing with your statement.

    "of the record low unemployment"

    But I could put it this way, and it is unarguably true. "During the four years of the Trump admin, record low unemployment figures never before achieved were recorded." A person would have to be completely self deceived to not agree with that statement. It is completely, 100% true.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 02:48 PM
    talaniman
    Doesn't square on balance with his incompetence in leading the country through this crisis if it was even partially true. To be fair the virus has exposed everybody's flaws and weaknesses.

    8000 dead just this week already leaves little room for anyone to get an attaboy. Nor justify his insane quest to overturn the will of the people without any...wait for it.....evidence​ of wrongdoing.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 02:55 PM
    jlisenbe
    We weren't talking about the whole story of the Trump admin. We were discussing unemployment figures. So I would just repeat, "During the four years of the Trump admin, record low unemployment figures never before achieved were recorded." A person would have to be completely self deceived to not agree with that statement. It is completely, 100% true.

    As to your statement above, there is some truth to it, and some falseness.
  • Dec 14, 2020, 06:12 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    We weren't talking about the whole story of the Trump admin. We were discussing unemployment figures. So I would just repeat, "During the four years of the Trump admin, record low unemployment figures never before achieved were recorded." A person would have to be completely self deceived to not agree with that statement. It is completely, 100% true.

    As to your statement above, there is some truth to it, and some falseness.

    yes it all has to do with Trump's "economic genius" or maybe it was that the US recovered from a recession of their own making. Either way I happen to think leaders don't have as much to do with it as they would like you to think
  • Dec 15, 2020, 04:19 PM
    talaniman
    It was our own fat greedy rich guys that screwed the world for sure and I might have agreed leaders really don't do much for the economy until the dufus showed up and wrote his name on everything and claimed he did it. It's been down hill since.
  • Dec 15, 2020, 04:39 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    It was our own fat greedy rich guys that screwed the world for sure and I might have agreed leaders really don't do much for the economy until the dufus showed up and wrote his name on everything and claimed he did it. It's been down hill since.
    My goodness. Such hate speech about fat people! Shame.

    It was actually uphill until Covid hit, and it would still be otherwise.
  • Dec 15, 2020, 07:42 PM
    talaniman
    Dontcha just hate it when stuff happens? And that was fat greedy rich people...I was specific.
  • Dec 15, 2020, 08:46 PM
    jlisenbe
    You mean the ones who pay nearly all of the income taxes?
  • Dec 15, 2020, 09:30 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Dontcha just hate it when stuff happens? And that was fat greedy rich people...I was specific.

    Not specific enough, you meant Trump but jl is back focused on those rich people who pay taxes and yet he gives his buddy trump who doesn't a pass
  • Dec 16, 2020, 05:10 AM
    jlisenbe
    I haven't given anyone a pass. Trump's returns are looked at annually by the IRS, and anyone who thinks the IRS is giving him a pass is an idiot. And as much as the truth irritates people here, it is simply a fact that wealthy people pay close to ninety percent of fed income taxes, so any call for "tax fairness" is a call being made by an ignorant dufusite. (Yeah...I borrowed the term.)
  • Dec 16, 2020, 05:37 AM
    paraclete
    You know, don't you, that i don't care if the rich pay 100% of the taxes and the poor pay nothing, since the rich have 100% of the advantage and 100% of the property and the poor have nothing. The dufus here is you
  • Dec 16, 2020, 08:28 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    that i don't care if the rich pay 100% of the taxes
    We have discussed this before. You seem perfectly happy to let others do your "charity" for you. My feeling is that anyone blessed enough to live in this country should shoulder at least some of the load for running the place. It's a responsibility we should all undertake and be happy to do it. To suggest the poor have "nothing" is ridiculous. They certainly have less, much less in fact, but they do not have "nothing" as a general rule. If they have nothing else, they have the golden opportunity of living here and, assuming the person is physically and mentally capable, being free to make a success out of his/her life.

    And before you start trying to lecture me on the condition of the poor, I would guess that I have a hundred times more experience of working with poor people than you do. And unlike you, it seems, I have put my own time and money into play to help them rather than depending on taxing the rich to do it.

    You are welcome to believe as you will, but I am not going to let you or anyone else on this board get away with portraying your fake charity as something noble. You care so much for poor people that you are willing to force others to help them? Sorry, but not impressed.
  • Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 AM
    talaniman
    You're position is fine, nothing new or different from what I've heard for decades. We voted already for a different direction though than the one we were on and that my friend is the true beauty of America. Next election in two years. The only question to be answered in this cycle is which party will control the senate, and that answer will be in about a month or so. After that it's game on! The debate continues!

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