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Originally Posted by talaniman

Every place but the USA shutdown until they got the virus under control. We cannot duplicate what they are doing without doing the work involved at least to the extent the NY metroplex did.

That's the flaw in the dufus/conservative plan to reopen everything. See the difference?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/0...ta-ldn-vpx.cnn

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Even with a limited lockdown Victoria has a second wave stated by dickheads, demonstrators, security who have no morals, and party goers, not to mention those who bring it in from overseas. we are becoming less tolerant to returning expats who are a source of infection. our generosity is over now you pay for your lockdown in a hotel and I hear if you can't afford business class you don't fly. That becomes a very expensive trip back with no prospect of employment

https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...8532f3a07748ef

however undaunted Victorians are determined to spread the joy, I was in a restraurant the other day and a family of Victorians were turned away after openly admitting they had been in Victoria in the last week, that is after the lockdown and after the NSW premier called for them to stay away. I was next in line so they placed a person more than 70 at risk. There was sign clearly saying if you are from Victoria you cannot enter

I expect we will back in lockdown here within a week as clusters associated with travelling Victorians show up in Sydney, and elsewhere. What is it with Victorians? well ethnically they are the same as the Italians who suffered in Europe and have high concentrations of other migrant communities, they have a culture of big sporting events and other large gatherings and it seems a culture of inflicting themselves on others. A group was caught trying to cross the Queensland border illegally, that is more than a thousand miles from home

At least you guy's are aware of the problem, and not just hoping you can live a normal life because the virus is nothing but a mild flu that will go away all by itself. There is great hope for a country that doesn't have wholesale idiots saying stupid stuff to the public.

Oh we have those who want to go back to business as usual, I think what we have done is an over reaction the response could have been more measured given the low rate of infection

That takes wisdom and forethought and not even Aussies can handle that!

How do you forethink a virus?

It's happened before enough times already hasn't it? Pretty dumb to think it won't happen again. What did the dufus do? Throw away the old playbook that presidents before had compiled for the next one. That's why he is a dufus, to dumb to get it out of the garbage pail and read it.

This is what happens when you are "led" by a raging ego

America has a ginorous ego, and this virus is a humbling experience.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

America has a ginorous ego, and this virus is a humbling experience.

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Doesn't the Bible say something about that? the proud will be brought low? the first shall be last? not the mention end times plagues and pestilence

guess you guys thought you were above all that, eh?

Only those listening to the dufus think that kind of loony stuff Clete, and I'll admit there are a lot of them.

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ask the leading scientist in the world Dr Fauxi he was funding research in Wuhan . He was warning in his vague and uncommitted language in 2017 that there was a possibility of a pandemic in the near future .WHAT GREAT SCIENTIFIC FORECASTING !!!

Wish you could be an equal opportunity nitpicker especially at a time the dufus is dissing Fauci because he never cosigns for his dufus stuff.

Trump diss everyone even those who are in his camp, the EGO can't stand any other opinion

Strikes me as funny that the slightest bit of virus detection gets other countries into action, but here we just keep ignoring it until it's really bad, and the refrigerator trucks get ordered.

I mean how is not wearing a mask during a pandemic NOT mandatory?

Freedom, my dear tal, you can't restrict freedom even to protect people from themselves

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Freedom, my dear tal, you can't restrict freedom even to protect people from themselves

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How explain the millions drafted to serve in war, hundreds of thousands dying?

A case in point, it only works when there is a tangible threat, but a virus, you can't fight with a gun only with discipline

You mean a commitment to address the threat effectively. Sometimes you need a gun, sometimes you need science, got nothing to do with freedom when you're in a dogfight for your life.

It has a lot to do with freedom, we have taken the view that some freedoms have to be curtailed for the greater good, it works to a point, but morons can always undo good work

Our politicians may not be mandating the safety of masks but stores and retailers are. No mask, no entry.

some people have common sense, we should do whatever is necessary, lock downs, masks, testing, isolation, vaccination, stay at home, and we should do it freely, knowing that the person we are protecting is ourself

Better corral those loonies first Clete. They are screwing up everything!

They will die soon enough, when you corral them what you get is pockets of infection and death. They are starting to issue big fines here for lunacy. Want you favourite Thai dish, learn to prepare it at home