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  • Jun 23, 2020, 08:01 AM
    talaniman
    Those so called quid pro quo's are not equal or comparable, no matter how you spin it. Biden wasn't trying to get votes for reelection when his occurred, but guess who was.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 05:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yes, and Trump has just endured two years of ridiculous investigations that showed...no quid pro quo.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 07:04 PM
    paraclete
    remind you, where there is smoke there is fire
  • Jun 23, 2020, 07:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    At some point someone would need to actually find some fire. So far, hasn't happened.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 07:13 PM
    paraclete
    No just the smouldering ruins
  • Jun 23, 2020, 07:16 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. Right.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 07:16 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yes, and Trump has just endured two years of ridiculous investigations that showed...no quid pro quo.

    Mueller listed 10 charges of obstruction of justice by Trump, but Trump's Chancellor Barr declared Trump immune from prosecution as long as he is president. Barr then lied about the Mueller report before anyone had a chance to see it.

    Trump was impeached with evidence that proved the charges far beyond a reasonable doubt, but the coward Republicans refused to vote for conviction.

    For the next 4 months, King Trump and his Cromwell will perform worse than before. The Flynn/Stone fiasco is just a hint of what is to come.

    Tomorrow's testimony at noon may be the first salvo in stopping a runaway government bent on tearing up the Constitution.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 07:18 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Trump was impeached with evidence that proved the charges far beyond a reasonable doubt,
    Always nice to have a good laugh before going to bed.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 07:40 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Always nice to have a good laugh before going to bed.

    As always, no rebuttal, just some of the typical smarmy.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 08:43 PM
    jlisenbe
    He was judged not guilty. How's that for a rebuttal?
  • Jun 23, 2020, 08:45 PM
    paraclete
    No he wasn't judged, it was a lynch mob
  • Jun 23, 2020, 08:47 PM
    jlisenbe
    The Senate found the evidence to be uncompelling and found him not guilty by vote. I think you are saying that what happened in the House was a lynch mob. If so, then you have hit the nail on the head.
  • Jun 23, 2020, 10:33 PM
    paraclete
    exactly
  • Jun 24, 2020, 05:42 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The Senate found the evidence to be uncompelling and found him not guilty by vote. I think you are saying that what happened in the House was a lynch mob. If so, then you have hit the nail on the head.

    Be more accurate to say REPUBS found him not guilty, except for one. Otherwise it was a party line vote. Everybody knew that would happen way before it got to the senate.
  • Jun 24, 2020, 07:05 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Otherwise it was a party line vote. Everybody knew that would happen way before it got to the senate.
    That was also true in the House where there was not a single repub vote in favor but three dems voted against. Does that bother you as well?
  • Jun 24, 2020, 07:36 AM
    talaniman
    Too predictable to be bothersome. Works that way sometimes that's why elections matter and should be a fair exercise of the right to vote.
  • Jun 24, 2020, 12:18 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    He was judged not guilty. How's that for a rebuttal?

    As a rebuttal - lame. That's simply a recognition of the cowardice of Republicans in the face of overwhelming evidence.
  • Jun 24, 2020, 12:32 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. Not guilty might mean nothing in your world, but I think, as do most people, that not guilty is pretty good. You just hate Trump and are aggravated that the liberal dems could not take him down.
  • Jun 24, 2020, 02:03 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. Not guilty might mean nothing in your world,

    In this case, it unmistakenly means that the Republican Senators are cowards and put their titles ahead of their country. None of that is news - except maybe to you and your cohorts.

    Interesting how you can't rebut the impeachment facts.
  • Jun 24, 2020, 02:30 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. Not guilty might mean nothing in your world, but I think, as do most people, that not guilty is pretty good. You just hate Trump and are aggravated that the liberal dems could not take him down.

    History won't erase the dufus in the impeachment circle, and he and those other guys can't change that. That part of history is over for now as the next election looms large. Another chance to give him the boot, or hurt him some more. Might even be able to take the senate from Slick Mitch, never know, so enjoy the victory, till the next fight, which has already started because dems sure ain't quitting on hitting the dufus some more.

    What were supposed to just stop our opposition? Repubs never did stop theirs, and you personally have never stopped hating and attacking Obama, Hillary, Bill, liberals, or abortions.

    If you can hate, why can't we?
  • Jun 24, 2020, 02:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    In this case, it unmistakenly means that the Republican Senators are cowards and put their titles ahead of their country. None of that is news - except maybe to you and your cohorts.

    Interesting how you can't rebut the impeachment facts.
    So they don't agree with and that makes them cowards? Interesting. Of course it's also quite probable that you are simply wrong.

    Quote:

    If you can hate, why can't we?
    If you find me hating, then let me know.
  • Jun 24, 2020, 10:02 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So they don't agree with and that makes them cowards? Interesting. Of course it's also quite probable that you are simply wrong.

    Just as probable and maybe a lot more so that you are wrong. Time will certainly tell.

    Quote:

    If you find me hating, then let me know.
    You can take that to the bank.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 04:22 AM
    jlisenbe
    Liberal dems think the Senate repubs were cowards. Conservatives think the House dems were cowards. Politics. I imagine that both groups generally thought they were doing what was right.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 05:52 AM
    talaniman
    The conflicts between libs and conservatives is pretty old news just as the politics they play, especially in an election season which lately seems like an everyday thing. LOL, starting to think that's the only season we seem to have.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 12:19 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    starting to think that's the only season we seem to have.
    It sure does seem that way.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 01:37 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Liberal dems think the Senate repubs were cowards. Conservatives think the House dems were cowards. Politics. I imagine that both groups generally thought they were doing what was right.

    There is usually some truth to that - at least on a marginal basis. But not now - the differences are simply those between right and wrong. Even the Republicans know they're in the wrong and are trying to save their livelihood by associating with the orange dufus. The confessions and the weeping will be overwhelming come November.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 02:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    I.e. You think you are right and so everyone else has to be wrong on what is plainly a matter of opinion.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 02:22 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You think you are right and so everyone else has to be wrong on what is plainly a matter of opinion.


    No, it's plainly a matter of fact, not opinion. Even most Republicans know that. As for you, time for you to get your head out of you-know-where.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:06 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Even most Republicans know that.
    Wow. Have extensive your knowledge base is. You are indeed a legend in you own mind.

    Quote:

    As for you, time for you to get your head out of you-know-where.
    The usual reply of the little man who has no answers. In the immortal words of John Wayne, "A big mouth don't make a big man."
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:17 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Wow. Have extensive your knowledge base is. You are indeed a legend in you own mind.

    Did you mean "how", not "have"? I'm only replying to this one for comic relief.

    "A legend in your own mind". Back to 4th grade now?

    Quote:

    The usual reply of the little man who has no answers.
    Another repeat. Is that the best you can do?

    Quote:

    In the immortal words of John Wayne, "A big mouth don't make a big man."
    Ah, a fan of the great WW2 avoider. I should have known he'd be one of your heroes.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:39 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    "A legend in your own mind". Back to 4th grade now?
    I try to keep it simple for your benefit.

    Quote:

    Another repeat. Is that the best you can do?
    It fits so well that it's worth repeating over and over. You are the littlest man on this board.

    Quote:

    Ah, a fan of the great WW2 avoider. I should have known he'd be one of your heroes.
    He sure pegged you.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:47 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You are the littlest man on this board.

    Keep repeating. That hole you're in keeps getting deeper.

    Quote:

    He sure pegged you.
    Still nothing post-worthy to post? Same old hackneyed material?
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:54 PM
    jlisenbe
    Nothing to reply to. It's really hard to discuss anything with you. You invent past occurrences. You claim to know what everyone believes. You lie with no regrets. You make statements and then get mad when they are not accepted. It's just pointless. I'll just let you prattle on.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:56 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Nothing to reply to. It's really hard to discuss anything with you. You invent past occurrences. You claim to know what everyone believes. You lie with no regrets. You make statements and then get mad when they are not accepted. It's just pointless. I'll just let you prattle on.

    8 lies in a row - one per sentence. A new record for you!
  • Jun 25, 2020, 04:02 PM
    jlisenbe
    Find one. And can't you come up with anything original EVER!

    Can't you find one? What seems to be the problem?
  • Jun 25, 2020, 04:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I try to keep it simple for your benefit.

    Hope none of your former students emulate your grammar: Wow. Have extensive your knowledge base is. You are indeed a legend in you own mind.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 04:57 PM
    talaniman
    The House Dems will pass a comprehensive police reform bill while Senate dems reject the watered down waste of good time and paper reform bill crafted by Mitch and the BooBoo boys.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 05:37 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The House Dems will pass a comprehensive police reform bill while Senate dems reject the watered down waste of good time and paper reform bill crafted by Mitch and the BooBoo boys.

    I saw one of your senators explain it, basically achieving the same ends with different provisions. You guys need to learn to talk to each other
  • Jun 26, 2020, 06:02 AM
    talaniman
    Not the same ends Clete. https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...ough-committee
  • Jun 26, 2020, 07:40 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Hope none of your former students emulate your grammar: Wow. Have extensive your knowledge base is. You are indeed a legend in you own mind.
    I accept your correction. It's nice to see you finally be correct about something.

    Quote:

    You guys need to learn to talk to each other
    Clete, you have hit the nail on the head.

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