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Nope. I was a suburban-Chicago (multicultural suburbs, not wealthy white ones) librarian for almost thirty years, and I've been a patient in healthcare rehabs staffed by a mix of races. Those experiences told me everything I needed to know about racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Then I'm happy for you.
Tell YOU what. Live in your own town as a black man and let us know how happy you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Tell YOU what. Live as Oprah, or MJ, or Jim Brown, or Kareem, or Magic, or B Ob, or Robert Johnson, or Ben Carson, or Steve Harvey, or any one of many black Americans who worked hard and lifted themselves out of a low start, and let us know how happy you are.
OR go live in Mexico, or any country in Africa, or any country in S. America, and then come back after a year. You will be a happy person to get back here.
I would not deny that life as a white person is generally easier than life as a black person. Where we disagree is the cause for that.
Rather small group and many are activists so listen to them if you won't listen to ordinary folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
We are all immigrants except the slaves brought here to do the work.Quote:
OR go live in Mexico, or any country in Africa, or any country in S. America, and then come back after a year. You will be a happy person to get back here.
OKAY!Quote:
I would not deny that life as a white person is generally easier than life as a black person. Where we disagree is the cause for that.
Only if you consider hundreds of thousands to be a small group.Quote:
Rather small group
I knew it wouldn't take long for this piece of racism to emerge. American blacks have it so much better than black or poor people in other countries. That has been a racist meme to support slavery/Jim Crow/systemic discrimination since the beginning centuries ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Plus they got Jesus instead of all those pagan voodoo gods. Jesus weeps when such blatant evil is used in his name.
Same ole tired approach. "You don't agree with amazing and glorious me, so you must surely be a racist." The choice of people afraid to engage ideas.
Well noted that you rarely engage in the ideas, you attack the messenger. Another one of your "tells" that say so much about you when you won't or can't reply intelligently.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Further noted that the two ideas I presented were dark ones originating from your side of the discussion.
Are you afraid to engage?
With you??? Hardly. I do hope you stop lying. I never said this or anything like it. "American blacks have it so much better than black or poor people in other countries." Are you going to keep lying, or can you be truthful?
Compared to the millions yes a small elite group that has come out in a big way to speak up against the racists policies and practices that they have faced and overcome. Will you listen to them? Except for Carson, a noted surgeon reduced to making housing policy for poor people.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Nobody ever asks him about medical stuff. Wonder why?
Sure looks like you won't engage. Otherwise, you'd be doing it. You can't hide behind your insults forever, Ju.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That is exactly what you implied. People like you search for the shallow BS that ignores the deeper horrors of a societal tragedy that you minimize - unless of course you're called on it. Then you quickly jump on the bandwagon of truth so you're not exposed. It's not hard to see.Quote:
I do hope you stop lying. I never said this or anything like it. "American blacks have it so much better than black or poor people in other countries."
Your Bible reading contains something similar. You see only the immediate surface meaning without considering the wider context or the deeper meaning.
I'll continue to point out your errors as long as you keep posting them.Quote:
Are you going to keep lying, or can you be truthful?
Fine with me. Your lying gets tiresome anyway. It's like trying to discuss something with a four year old. You just can't get over being caught lying about Aquinas. As they used to say, "It's stuck in your throat." It eats at you.
Except that it's not. Incredible. You get caught lying again, and you can't come clean and just admit it, or even simply say you were mistaken. No, no. It's always someone else's fault.Quote:
That is exactly what you implied.
If Ben Carson thinks he is not being used correctly it is certainly his prerogative to resign . He retired from neurosurgery . No one forced him to do so.Quote:
Except for Carson, a noted surgeon reduced to making housing policy for poor people.
Nobody ever asks him about medical stuff. Wonder why?
The real problem the left has with Ben is he strayed off the Democrat plantation. He holds opposing views to their orthodoxy so therefore he is not a real Black man .
In his autobiography 'Gifted Hands he describes how he grew up poor in the liberal bastions of Boston and Detroit . Of course his real life experience living in these liberal utopias gives him hands on experience about the life of the poor Black person living in the hell liberal policies have created . The last thing the poor blacks of the inner city needs is more of the same policy failures the left have dumped on them for over 50 years . When he is criticized for lack of experience I ask as opposed to what ? Maybe we should recruit il duce Cuomo who's policies at HUD caused the 2008 housing crisis and the Great Recession . Yeah we need more of that type of expertise .
The important thing is to have a smart, sane, experienced person in that position. For Dr. Carson, that is yes, yes, and yes. I'd vote for him as pres any time.
Gifted Hands was a great book. Any teacher would like it since it was a teacher who was key in helping get young Carson on track. His mother was an amazing woman. They also made a movie based on the book.
If you haven't read Clarence Thomas' autobiography, it was even better to me. I think the title was, My Grandfather's Son. It was largely about his grandfather who raised him. Very real.
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jlisenbe;3854583 Your lying gets tiresome anyway.
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You just can't get over being caught lying about Aquinas.
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You get caught lying again
You're sounding like a broken record. Nothing of substance to post?Quote:
No, no. It's always someone else's fault.
I understand how difficult it is for you to reply to my comments, but I think you should try anyway. It keeps you from coming across as a nitwit with a one-track mind.
As to Aquinas, you are far more obsessed with the saint than I ever was. But, if you insist, keep it up. It's harmless and bothers no one.
Nice spin conservative and way to rally around the brother. Actually Carson's POLICIES and practices are what I'm against. Nothing personal, but the dufus only wants sycophants.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...g-enforcement/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...7e7_story.html
There's more of course.
You keep linking to WaPo. You do realize we have to have a subscription to read it, and I'm not sending my money to that rag.
Anything in particular?Quote:
Actually Carson's POLICIES and practices are what I'm against. Nothing personal, but the dufus only wants sycophants.
Making it easier to segregate low income people by race, which is a form of redlining. Hope you read that link, and especially making it harder to report and remedy housing violations, and a marked decline in investigating those violations when they are reported, as well as discriminatory policies against the homeless for shelters.
Saw most of this on CSpan during a congressional hearing.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...NZ82A2OJD_d7wkQuote:
Of the organization's total revenue of $4.8 million over the two years, more than $3 million went toward salaries, and $1.7 million went toward other initiatives. Of the $1.7 million, $740,000 was spent on conventions, conferences, and meetings.
Well it's certainly true that paying big salaries is how cancer gets cured. But look on the bright side. If he wins, he'll get right into the swing of things in liberal D.C.
Should we look back at the dufus foundation again?
According to Strzok’s notes, it appears that Quid personally raised the idea of going after Flynn using the antiquated and unconstitutional Logan Act . Good ole Joe gave that MSNBC creep Lawrence O Donnell the Sergeant Shultz defense when asked his role in the Flynn take down "I know nuthink"
Flynn is a mercenary, his son is a nut. He wanted to get paid, doesn't matter by whom.
Talking about Flynn or Biden??Quote:
his son is a nut. He wanted to get paid, doesn't matter by whom.
More creative quoting?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Just pointing out that your description could go either way???
Yeah I guess it could describe any kid of the privileged rich connected class, including the dufus kids.
And including Biden kid. Now none of Trump's kids were ever kicked out of the military for drug use or given politically motivated jobs in Ukraine.
You want to go after a candidates kids, go ahead, just look into the dufus kids too! Sound fair to you?
not like we are talking about young innocent children here . Hunter Biden's role in Biden's corruption in Ukraine and China is well documented .
Joe Biden's brother James also benefited from Joe's positions in securing a contract in Iraq to build 100,000 homes . Quid was tasked by the emperor to rebuild Iraq .
Was James Biden's expertise in home construction ? Maybe as much as Hunter Biden's expertise in energy and high finance .
Hillstone Int's President was Kevin Justice, who grew up in Delaware and was a longtime Biden family friend . In his one visit to the White House he did not meet and greet with the emperor . He went right to Quid pro Joe's office. There he met with Michele Smith, a top aide to Quid .Smith,was a fellow Delaware native, serving as Quid's liaison to “global government officials and business executives.”
This AFTER James had with Hunter failed at running a hedge fund .
Oh did I mention that Hillstons was a subsidiary company of Hill Int,owned by a prominent Democrat donor ?
A few weeks later , James Biden was named Exec VP because he knew his way around the corridors of power and had political contacts. His brother was vice president of the United States.
Hillstone was awarded $1.5 billion for the contract in Iraq . James cut is unknown because he does not have to disclose that .
Even with James on board, HillStone was eventually forced to back out of the deal after its inexperience with such a large scale construction became evident.
The failure, though, did not disqualify either HillStone or Hill International from seeking and obtaining other U.S. government contracts. In 2012, around the same time its inexperience was coming to the attention of federal agencies, HillStone secured a $22 million construction contract from the Evita led State Department.
Okay disqualify Joe, and the dufus and every other politician with business ties and foreign deal connections. Whose left...VOTE for me!!!
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.VSrHYt...r=1.25&pid=1.7
Then why did you bring it up?
After conceding this.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
After your edited quote in which I was VERY specific on. Biden's son isn't in the public domain shooting off his mouth but Dufus Jr is so fair game. The point is as stated above, kids of wealth and privilege aren't just a dem thing, they all do it to some degree. You have seen the college admissions scandal, haven't you? Seems privilege starts early on, and extends well into adulthood. Hunter is just one of many if that's how you want to look at it. The fuss kicked up by the right just opens the door for the left to scrutinize the dufus kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
His kids strike me as being successful business persons. They haven't been kicked out of the military for drug use, and they didn't need their politically powerful father to unethically get a cushy, cozy job in Ukraine for them.Quote:
After conceding this.
They've been a part of the dufus family business all their lives, like most rich kids. I guess you didn't know Hunter gets his money from working with his buddy a member of the Heinz Ketchup family, which works in many countries including in Ukraine and China. Not surprising you believe the dufus's lies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden
Having been through the substance abuse experience on many levels I can admire a guy for putting it behind him, but understand those that cannot.Quote:
Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, a major Ukrainian natural gas producer, from 2014 to 2019. He has been the subject of debunked right-wing conspiracy theories concerning his business dealings in Ukraine.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] President Donald Trump's attempt to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden and Hunter Biden by withholding foreign aid triggered an impeachment inquiry in September 2019, in which the President was impeached by the House and acquitted by the Senate.[8][9][10]...
...Investor and lobbyist
Biden is an investment professional with an interest in early stage investments in technology companies. In 2009, Biden, Devon Archer and Christopher Heinz founded the investment and advisory firm Rosemont Seneca.[19] He also founded Eudora Global, a venture capital firm.[16] He held the position of counsel in the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner LLP in 2014.[12]
So they've been a part of a successful business. And that's a problem with you?Quote:
They've been a part of the dufus family business all their lives
Which Trump business has been successful? Trump Steaks? Nope. Trump Wine? Uh-uh. Trump University? Ha ha! Trump Vodka? Gulp! Trump Airlines? Be sure to bring your own parachute! Trump Ice? Shiver me timbers! Trump Mortgage? Hmm, mort is Latin for death.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Stop being ridiculous. Trump has developed business assets of over a billion dollars. Your silly recounting of some of the failures proves nothing other than the fact that business is a risky deal. How many multi-million dollar businesses have you started?
Check these out. https://www.topinspired.com/donald-t...ess-successes/
You know darn well he's lost far more than he ever made himself. If only he'd put his money into worthwhile investments....Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
So how much is Trump really worth? Who says what?
Trump: over $10B
Forbes: $4B
Bloomberg: $2.9B
North Fork Bank (2005): $1.2B
Wall Street Journal: over $1.5B
Deutsche Bank: $788MM
New York Times (2005): $150-$250MM
It’s a bit muddied.
It’s also not entirely clear Trump’s fortune was made by him at all.
1974: Inherited $40MM
$40MM reinvested dividends 1974-2015 S&P 500 Index:
$3B
$200MM (1982 net worth) reinvested dividends 1982-2014 S&P 500 Index: $8B
Depending on how much you think he’s currently worth, Trump might’ve made more money by just riding out the S&P Index.
https://internationalbusinessguide.o...0to...20more20
Oooooo, didn't like my response, didja, so let's put WG on the defensive! Petty little man, as usual....Quote:
Your silly recounting of some of the failures proves nothing other than the fact that business is a risky deal. How many multi-million dollar businesses have you started?
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