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interesting little factoid . the CDC official who did the chicken little act that spooked the markets this week was none other thanNancy Messonnier,who just happens to be the sister of the former acting FBI Director Rod Rosenstein .You remember him ? He took over as acting FBI Director when Comey was fired and immediately appointed Robert Mueller to be the special investigator of the Russian hoax . Could it be that there are certain people in the government who think it would be beneficial to cause a financial panic in the run up to the election ?
tomder55: Will not matter: Markets will spring back stronger than ever: This will be good long term: Will force our greedy arsed manufactures to reconsider their supply and manufacturing futures with the ChiComs….and maybe even pull some of them back home!
Was she ginning up fear as conservatives think, or giving a fair warning that this could be bad and you better prepare for the worst? The dufus and conservatives are quick to downplay this crisis, while the doctors are not, and the markets weren't spooked, so protecting themselves in light of current conditions to ride this thing out. As a capitalist Tom, you know well that's what rich guys do when they see it coming and they have watched what other countries are doing and CTOA against what will be a huge financial hit.
That's my spin Tomder, because deep state fake news conspiracy intrigue aside, there is a looming health crisis. Just wait until health workers here get sick as in California and become understaffed. Will we shutdown March Madness or the baseball season...or NY, for days weeks or months? Ain't no vaccine yet so while you hope for the best, plan for the worst.
Walls and bans ain't cutting it!
So you're suggesting we just throw open the borders and let anyone and everyone in? I don't think that's a good plan for controlling a pandemic.Quote:
Walls and bans ain't cutting it!
I think you should make sure we have enough resources to take care of those that are sick, and may get sick. Call up your rich buddies and get some of those closed rural hospitals open.
That's your solution for everything. "Let someone else pay for it. Tax the rich but don't tax Tal!"Quote:
Call up your rich buddies
Amazing. You really believe we should just let anyone and everyone into the country. I'll vote that we move them into your neighborhood. I know it would make it happy since, being a charitable, liberal soul, you'll be happy to have the chance to take care of them and pay their med bills.Quote:
I think you should make sure we have enough resources to take care of those that are sick,
[QUOTE]tomder55: Will not matter: Markets will spring back stronger than ever: This will be good long term: Will force our greedy arsed manufactures to reconsider their supply and manufacturing futures with the ChiComs….and maybe even pull some of them back home!true dat . I was a strict free trader in 2016 . He has made the case why the ChiComs are the exception to the rule .Quote:
Vac true dat . True dat has forctomder55: Will not matter: Markets will spring back stronger than ever: This will be good long term: Will force our greedy arsed manufactures to reconsider their supply and manufacturing futures with the ChiComs….and maybe even pull some of them back home
chicken little bs . No country is more prepared than the US . The reason the Chicoms and Iran are ill prepared correlated with the lack of liberty in those countries .Quote:
Was she ginning up fear as conservatives think, or giving a fair warning that this could be bad and you better prepare for the worst?
There is no other country on the planet better prepared to react to a pandemic . You know it and I know it .Quote:
That's my spin Tomder, because deep state fake news conspiracy intrigue aside, there is a looming health crisis. Just wait until health workers here get sick as in California and become understaffed. Will we shutdown March Madness or the baseball season...or NY, for days weeks or months? Ain't no vaccine yet so while you hope for the best, plan for the worst.
Walls and bans ain't cutting it!
Yes it is amazing that the Schmuckster only sees $8.5 billion as the solution when it is most likely that any spread of this will come from a lack of travel restrictions or REAL border controlQuote:
Amazing. You really believe we should just let anyone and everyone into the country.
tomder55: Actually, I feel even stronger about the ChiComs….in fact: SCREW THE CHICOMS TO HELL! I hope this sh&t they brewed up in some biological weapons lab come boomeranging back on them so hard it chokes out that snaked-eyed President For Life Xi and his whole stinking arsed Politburo. Then, all these bastards that were so quick to shut down manufacturing here can start pulling back from Red China and forget about chasing slave labor all around the globe. But honestly and truly, RED CHINA CAN GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!
Hope your right The dufus ordered those paper masks for us, hope he gets testing kits too! Kind of early to blame the brown people though, since the yellow people and the white people are the ones being hit right now.Quote:
There is no other country on the planet better prepared to react to a pandemic . You know it and I know it .
As a strict free trader, why is Big Biz even doing business with China if they're such cheats, and taking advantage of us?
No more Chinese food for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Awww! I like Chinese. Can't use chopsticks, but other than that I'm good with it.Quote:
No more Chinese food for you!
Is KFC Chinese food?
Yum! Me too! My favorites are shrimp with lobster sauce and combination fried rice. What's yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Nope. And I noticed those Kentucks are now going cheap by making cole slaw outta the white core of the cabbage and not outta green cabbage leaves.Quote:
Is KFC Chinese food?
They have gone downhill around here. I've gotten to where I don't normally go there.Quote:
Nope. And I noticed those Kentucks are now going cheap by making cole slaw outta the white core of the cabbage and not outta green cabbage leaves.
Nothing like a good round of tenders with chili sauce, beats hamburger any dayQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
KFC is chicken.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Doesn't the "C" in KFC stand for "Chinese"? Kentucky Fong Chinese? Something like that?
Sweet and sour pork. That is Chinese, isn't it? Love egg rolls. My wife is not a fan, so we don't go very often.Quote:
My favorites are shrimp with lobster sauce and combination fried rice. What's yours?
well of course it is, I eat there often and I was referring to a KFC dish, I also eat Chinese with chop sticks so I know the difference. Not all KFC is deep fired muck dripping in fatQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I'm sorry, 'Clete. I forgot they've expanded their menu. We rarely go there anymore. McDonald's, Arby's, Chinese, and Thai are usually our choices, plus three Chicago franchises: Buona Beef, Portillo's, and Brown's chicken.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
My favorite is Kimchi...but that is Korean!
I had a library volunteer whose mom is Korean. He told me the history of kimchi. He said the Japanese and Chinese soldiers tromped back and forth across Korea and stole what they could from Koreans. So the Koreans buried their possessions including their cabbage. It tasted so good after it had been buried for a while, they did that deliberately, added spices and other ingredients, thus creating kimchi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
(I looked up the history of kimchi and learned its history is more complicated than the above story.)
W.G.: Now, I didn't know that! Makes perfect sense! Koreans are a very hardy people: strong and hard working. Japanese and Chinese abused the devil out of them over history. I once had a Korean girlfriend and she was (sorry W.G.!) WONDERFUL! Probably the cleanest person I have ever know....and she was like a shrew! If she was awake, she was constantly doing something productive like cooking, sewing, ironing, knitting, vacuuming, washing her car, painting, making the bird cutouts from paper with the speed of light (amazing)...something all the time...no idle time....but, boy, she could drink, and I don't! I knew quite early that she was much more intelligent than me: clairvoyant, too. She could massage my hand and put me to sleep! And she fixed the best Kimchi I ever have tasted, it was the sour variety! Had a Korean boss (PhD. Engineer) and he was one heck of a cook, too: He like "crisp" Kimchi and told me that there are over 200 types of it. Really like the Korean people and their food!
V7, my Korean-American library volunteer was a FedEx driver and wore burmuda shorts every day for work, even during Chicago's frigid weather. He dressed warmly otherwise, and claimed the shorts helped him be even warmer -- something about blood flow. And in the evenings he worked at his parents' restaurant, a very popular PIZZA place!
W.G.: If a Korean tell you that "A chicken will pull a plow", you best hooked up the chicken to the plow! These people are no B.S.r's! And the Korean girlfriend I had told me that "You will never forget me" no matter where you are or who you are with", also was correct on that score, too....Pretty powerful people.
I have gone to the local Chinese restaurant 3 times in the last 2 weeks when I heard reports that people were not going to them over irrational fears . If a pint of wonton soup with hot Chinese mustard was prescribed it would cure the corona virus . That is my default treatment to the common cold which in itself is a different corona virusQuote:
No more Chinese food for you!
(types 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1)
Maybe that's the problem with us humans. Too many diseases to keep track of and new ones pop up all the time. Not a place to cut the budget I think. For sure no place for politics and religion, give me a doctor please!
Pence is a manager . In my business I am the boss of scientists too. I am not expected to know the chemistry . I just give them direction and priorities .But you want a doctor ? Ben Carson was named to the task force today . So was FDA director doctor Stephen Hahn .
Keep the dufus out of it and I'm comfortable for now. Let the experts do there jobs, and sign the checks for the resources needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Yeh! That will do it
It appears CV is a plot to denude our supermarket shelves, who should we blame, the Chinese communists who want to sell us the rope to hang ourselves, the greedy preppers who think the apocalypse has come, the dumb bogans who will believe anything or media who are convinced this is the end of the world as we know it
Paraclete: How about the arses that will sell life jackets as the Titanic slides under the waves? This whole thing with CV is illuminating, for all to see, the pathetic, sickening, disgusting GREED OF MAN!
Sure is, speaks of the loss of moral values
FEAR can change ones moral values just as quick as GREED. Don't panic. Your PM says your ready.
I don't think they change a person's moral values so much as they reveal them.Quote:
FEAR can change ones moral values just as quick as GREED
jlisenbe: You nailed it: My Father told me this a long time ago: "A man's character is how he treats someone who can do nothing for him and nothing against him." He also said, pertaining to the same subject, that a man's character was best displayed by "how he carries on his affairs when he thinks no one is looking".....My Dad was one hell of a good man! I may be just a little bit biased, however.:)
I can agree with that, but I have long suspected that it's possible some were born greedy and fearful and totally without any morals, and embrace it rather than work to change their own natures. I have also seen to my disappointment, many a good man fail to rise to the challenge of doing the right thing, and feeding the less savory parts of his nature, in a desperation to save themselves. Is that not the lesson of the disciples when they abandoned and betrayed Jesus?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That doesn't mean they cannot be redeemed, and indeed they were, as have many who have fallen and gotten up. Reality though is some do not get back up. Whether it's right or wrong I won't judge, but stuff like that does happen all the time.
If he failed to do the right thing, then in what respect was he "good"?Quote:
many a good man fail to rise to the challenge of doing the right thing,
I don't know, but why assume he wasn't a good man who acted from fear, or desperation? I go back to the example of Jesus and the acts of his disciples. They were good men before they did what they did to betray and deny their savior weren't they? Or did their true natures reveal themselves?
What do you think?
I would agree with Paul from Romans 3. "There is none good, not even one." We are all flawed.
there is not perfect human except one .
James MadisonQuote:
“If Men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and the next place, oblige it to control itself.”
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