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  • Mar 28, 2019, 11:06 AM
    Athos
    Where once there were Buckley, Kirkpatrick, Goldwater, and William Safire - now we have mental midgets like Hannity, Carlson, Ann Coulter and Ingraham. A sad state of affairs.
  • Mar 28, 2019, 07:35 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    we are the mainstream thinking and the right is a small band of nutcases
    Except that we have a republican pres and a republican senate. Pretty good work for the non-mainstream party.
  • Mar 28, 2019, 08:21 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Except that we have a republican pres and a republican senate. Pretty good work for the non-mainstream party.

    What do you mean, there are two mainstream parties
  • Mar 29, 2019, 05:50 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Except that we have a republican pres and a republican senate. Pretty good work for the non-mainstream party.

    Enjoy it while it lasts as the pendulum is already swinging back from the dufus party, and their antics. Common sense and pragmatism will replace the hollering screaming bully boys of this administration... HOPEFULLY!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    What do you mean, there are two mainstream parties

    We have democrats, and a republican party that the dufus subverted and took over. There is a stronger independent party but has yet to really break through, and many smaller ones that form coalitions with the main parties.
  • Mar 29, 2019, 01:46 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Enjoy it while it lasts as the pendulum is already swinging back from the dufus party, and their antics. Common sense and pragmatism will replace the hollering screaming bully boys of this administration... HOPEFULLY!
    Time will tell. It's still so funny to me to hear you criticize the "hollering screaming bully boys of this administration." If that's what they are, then you must have learned from them. Just look at your own post. I guess it's OK when you do it.
  • Mar 29, 2019, 02:01 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Time will tell. It's still so funny to me to hear you criticize the "hollering screaming bully boys of this administration." If that's what they are, then you must have learned from them. Just look at your own post. I guess it's OK when you do it.

    Tal isn't bullying. He's reeling with disgust!
  • Mar 29, 2019, 02:15 PM
    jlisenbe
    How convenient.
  • Mar 29, 2019, 02:32 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Tal isn't bullying. He's reeling with disgust!

    Thank you!!
  • Apr 10, 2019, 09:51 AM
    tomder55
    AG Barr tells Congress "I think spying did occur, yes. I think spying did occur" on the Trump campaign. He adds "The question was whether it was adequately predicated. And I'm not suggesting it wasn't predicated. I need to explore that"
  • Apr 10, 2019, 10:01 AM
    talaniman
    What do you expect a hand picked dufus stooge to say, but parrot the right wing noise machine party line? Heck how much intelligience does that take? What you disagree Tomder?
  • Apr 10, 2019, 10:06 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    What do you expect a hand picked dufus stooge to say, but parrot the right wing noise machine party line?
    Thank goodness Tal does not engage in name calling.
  • Apr 10, 2019, 10:09 AM
    tomder55
    ummmm....... all AGs are handpicked ;in fact every cabinet member is handpicked . The truth is that Barr and Mueller have a trusting work relationship ,so much so that Mueller trusted him to write the summary ;and is working closely with Barr to do the redactions .
  • Apr 10, 2019, 10:18 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Thank goodness Tal does not engage in name calling.

    If it's accurate then it's not namecalling. How many times must I tell you that? Try to keep up will you?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ummmm....... all AGs are handpicked ;in fact every cabinet member is handpicked . The truth is that Barr and Mueller have a trusting work relationship ,so much so that Mueller trusted him to write the summary ;and is working closely with Barr to do the redactions .

    That's Barr's side of it, I can't wait for Mueller to agree with that. We don't have long to wait as next week we will have the first pass of the redacted public offering of the Mueller report. Then as we analyze it, the congress can get the non public version for scrutiny.
  • Apr 10, 2019, 10:49 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    AG Barr tells Congress "I think spying did occur, yes. I think spying did occur" on the Trump campaign. He adds "The question was whether it was adequately predicated. And I'm not suggesting it wasn't predicated. I need to explore that"

    I could write a rap song from that!

    I think spying did occur,
    Yes, I think spying did occur!
    Was it adequately predicated?
    I'm not suggesting it was!
    Or wasn't.
    But maybe it was
    Or wasn't!
    Let's explore that.
    Come with me,
    Let's go!
    Spying,
    Denying,
    Crying,
    Lying,
    Prying,
    All adequately predicated?
    Who knows!

    (Add your own music and dance steps.)
  • Apr 10, 2019, 10:58 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I could write a rap song from that!

    I think spying did occur,
    Yes, I think spying did occur!
    Was it adequately predicated?
    I'm not suggesting it was!
    Or wasn't.
    But maybe it was
    Or wasn't!
    Let's explore that.
    Come with me,
    Let's go!
    Spying,
    Denying,
    Crying,
    Lying,
    Prying,
    All adequately predicated?
    Who knows!

    (Add your own music and dance steps.)

    Love it Hip Hop Mama. Whens the video coming out.

    *D
  • Apr 10, 2019, 11:20 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    If it's accurate then it's not namecalling. How many times must I tell you that? Try to keep up will you?
    At least you are on the Trump train now. That's the same weak as water excuse he would use. Be careful lest you find that the two of you actually have a lot in common. You seem to have the same motto. "If I do it, it must be OK."
  • Apr 10, 2019, 01:11 PM
    tomder55
    What Barr was saying is there will FINALLY be Justice Dept investigations into the criminal conduct of the emperor's Justice and Intelligence agencies ;as well as the DNC and dare I say it ;the emperor himself. You really don't believe any of the criminal behavior of his regime happened without approval/direction /involvement . So go ahead and rap away. I'll provide you the lyrics for their frog march .
  • Apr 10, 2019, 01:29 PM
    jlisenbe
    Tom, you must understand something here. If President Obama did it, then it's all fine and wonderful. If HC did it, then same thing. It is only when President Trump allegedly does something wrong that it must be investigated and he must be impeached.
  • Apr 10, 2019, 04:14 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    At least you are on the Trump train now. That's the same weak as water excuse he would use. Be careful lest you find that the two of you actually have a lot in common. You seem to have the same motto. "If I do it, it must be OK."

    I will gladly submit to whatever fact checks you have, and no we have nothing in common, not even the basics of humanity and certainly not in the challenge of good orderly direction or boundaries of good behavior which his base has ignored for promises of the right wing agenda that even conservatives cringe at.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    What Barr was saying is there will FINALLY be Justice Dept investigations into the criminal conduct of the emperor's Justice and Intelligence agencies ;as well as the DNC and dare I say it ;the emperor himself. You really don't believe any of the criminal behavior of his regime happened without approval/direction /involvement . So go ahead and rap away. I'll provide you the lyrics for their frog march .

    I just hope the Inspector Generals report is a lot more professional than the partisan hack job that Barr is presenting... spying on the dufus indeed.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Tom, you must understand something here. If President Obama did it, then it's all fine and wonderful. If HC did it, then same thing. It is only when President Trump allegedly does something wrong that it must be investigated and he must be impeached.

    The devil is in the details which make your conspiracy right wing allegations laughable if you weren't stuck on a LIAR and cheater and there is much evidence of both. Hold your nose and enjoy your FUNK!
  • Apr 10, 2019, 04:53 PM
    tomder55
    yeah I'm looking forward to the IG report also .
  • Apr 11, 2019, 04:52 PM
    talaniman
    Assange arrested!
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...D=ansmsnnews11
  • Apr 11, 2019, 06:25 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:
    Yes evidence of US collusion, no doubt about it
  • Apr 12, 2019, 03:53 PM
    tomder55
    He aided and abetted a traitor in his/her treason. That more than the actual releasing the emails is what he criminally did. I'm not even sure the release of the emails ia a crime.

    An Obot lawyer is indicted now and 8 criminal referrals are coming to the AG from Congressional committees . The Obots time to run for cover .
  • Apr 12, 2019, 07:19 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    From the end of 2015 to the end of 2018, Bill Priestap was assistant director of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division, which meant he oversaw the FBI’s global counterintelligence efforts. In that role, he managed both of the bureau’s most politically sensitive investigations: the inquiry into Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified information and the probe into whether Donald Trump or his campaign conspired with Russia to steal the 2016 presidential election. His testimony provides rare insight into the attitudes and thoughts of officials who launched the Russia probe and the probe of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, whose final report is expected to be released very soon.More important, his testimony contains extensive indications of wrongdoing, including that the FBI and DoJ targeted Trump and did so with information it made no effort to verify. It paints a portrait of the Obama-era bureau as one that was unconcerned with political interference in investigations and was willing to enlist the help of close foreign allies to bring down its target. And, perhaps presaging a defense to Barr’s claim that American officials had spied on the Trump campaign, it showcases the euphemisms that can be used to disguise “spying.”


    https://www.realclearinvestigations....BcBGuOpHoiSEEE
  • Apr 13, 2019, 06:46 AM
    talaniman
    What a quaint way of describing SPIN, and the justifications that follow.

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