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  • Jul 10, 2018, 10:39 AM
    talaniman
    Of course Slick Mitch wants to get his guy in before the election in case he is no longer the Main Man for The Dufus after the election. He is a ruthless political beast. My side needs one of those.

    Elections have consequences and so does NOT voting during the mid terms. Electing Obama was great, but leaving him alone against the repubs was STUPID! Thinking repubs are going down without one helluva fight is even more STUPID!
  • Jul 10, 2018, 11:11 AM
    Oliver2011
    I am no way a Mitch M fan. I don't want him to be the face of the conservatives as well as I am sure the democrats don't want Pelosi or Idiot Maxine.
  • Jul 10, 2018, 12:30 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    it was a Presidential election year . we can revisit that in 2020 . Meanwhile the Dems don't have the power .They were in the minority then and they are in the minority now .

    I have no doubt that the Kennedy retirement was a prearranged event .

    Will be interesting to see who he replaces Ginsburg with . The Dems have her on life support and vitamin injections .


    McConnell is one of the worst politicians to ever darken the halls of Congress. He is a total zero and his public comments not to serve the duly-elected President Obama were treasonous. He disgusts people on all sides except the driven ideologues.

    (I had to smile at the Ginsburg crack - she does look frail).
  • Jul 10, 2018, 01:06 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I have no doubt that the Kennedy retirement was a prearranged event .


    Not only that, the report now is that Kennedy and Trump colluded for Kennedy to retire when he did so that his former law clerk Kavanagh would get the nomination.

    There's just no end to the corruption of these creeps.
  • Jul 10, 2018, 02:01 PM
    tomder55
    ironically ,it's Trumps "right to choose " .
  • Jul 10, 2018, 02:07 PM
    tomder55
    I hear the Dems plan is to feeze Ruth Ginsberg in carbonite until the next SCOTUS session .
  • Jul 10, 2018, 02:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I hear the Dems plan is to feeze Ruth Ginsberg in carbonite until the next SCOTUS session .

    No, in bubblewrap.
  • Jul 10, 2018, 04:14 PM
    tomder55
    bubblewrap would've worked too ..... but too late

    https://babylonbee.com/wp-content/up...e-1024x580.jpg
  • Jul 11, 2018, 06:42 AM
    tomder55
    one has to wonder why the emperor did not try to talk Ruth Ginsberg into retiring when he had the clout . Also one of these days the nation will see my logic in judges having term limits .
  • Jul 11, 2018, 08:20 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    one has to wonder why the emperor did not try to talk Ruth Ginsberg into retiring when he had the clout . Also one of these days the nation will see my logic in judges having term limits .

    I already see that logic since our executive and legislative branches have become feckless political BOOBS fighting for power and control instead of PROGRESS!
  • Jul 11, 2018, 08:26 AM
    tomder55
    40 years is too long . There are plenty examples where these judges become senile .
  • Jul 11, 2018, 04:25 PM
    paraclete
    Yes retiring at 70 would seem a good idea
  • Jul 11, 2018, 07:44 PM
    talaniman
    You don't have to be senile to be out of touch, but the greater danger, is to be influenced by the political winds instead of the confluence of the law.
  • Jul 11, 2018, 08:43 PM
    paraclete
    Are you saying democrat appointees are influenced by the political winds
  • Jul 11, 2018, 09:17 PM
    talaniman
    Just the ones appointed by the DUFUS!
  • Jul 11, 2018, 10:21 PM
    paraclete
    Ridiculous statement
  • Jul 28, 2018, 06:41 PM
    jlisenbe
    Thank goodness Tal avoids hate speech by calling the president "the Dufus". Yep. Nothing like a little civility.
  • Jul 28, 2018, 07:46 PM
    talaniman
    Dufus is short for lying, cheating, loudmouth, bullying DUFUS. Descriptive and accurate. Sometimes I get tired of writing the whole thing. You think I'm wrong? Tell me how, and please let's not revisit the Hillary thing. This is about one guy who is the president NOW.

    I'm listening!
  • Jul 28, 2018, 08:59 PM
    jlisenbe
    How quickly democrats want to avoid talking about HC. Is Trump a mess? Yes. Is he a mess with an economy that, in only 18 months, has already far surpassed anything Mr. Obama did? Yes. Has he done more with NoKo and NATO than Mr. Obama did? Yes. And has he nominated two believers in the rule of law to the Supreme Court? Yes. So in spite of his many failings, I hang in there with him. Of course, we could also point out Ms. Clinton's many accomplishments. If, that is, if we could think of any.

    I'll say it again. Anyone who supported HC for president should be ashamed to say so much as a single negative word about Mr. Trump. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Good grief.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 03:11 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    an economy that, in only 18 months, has already far surpassed anything Mr. Obama did? Yes.

    Complete and utter nonsense. Even Trump supporters don't go this far. Trump, of course, is the source for this bizarre statement. Obama inherited a near world-wide economic collapse from the Republican Bush Administration and prevented a financial disaster that was feared to be worse than the Great Depression. Today's economy simply continues the impetus gained from the Obama years. I am always shocked at the ignorance of the right-wing when it comes to basic economics especially since all the stats are readily available on the internet to anyone who can read.

    Quote:

    Has he done more with NoKo and NATO than Mr. Obama did? Yes.
    So far North Korea has achieved a status it's been aiming at for decades and has gotten Trump to agree to North Korean demands to cancel the joint US/South Korean military exercises. In return, Trump achieved nothing. After the latest talks, Pompeo called them "productive". North Korea called them "regrettable".

    Trump's criticism of NATO is simply untrue. He has lied about financing, about readiness, and just about everything else he said. As a candidate, he admitted he didn't know much about NATO. He still doesn't. And his attacks against NATO fit perfectly into Putin's foreign policy re NATO.

    These two diplomatic disasters of Trump should tell you all you need to know about his negotiating talents. And I haven't even gotten to Trump agreeing with Russia in preference to his own intelligence organization. Treason, many said. Certainly close to that.

    Quote:

    And has he nominated two believers in the rule of law to the Supreme Court? Yes.
    That's pretty vague, isn't it? "Two believers in the rule of law". I'm sure your real interest in his nominations are their positions of repealing Roe v. Wade, and not their being "believers in the rule of law". Kavanagh has even gone on record as believing Trump is above the law. A strange position, indeed, for someone who believes in the rule of law. Like all evangelicals who base their support of Trump almost exclusively on an anti-abortion platform, even in the face of a lifestyle repellent to Christians, I suspect you fall into that category.

    Quote:

    Of course, we could also point out Ms. Clinton's many accomplishments.
    It never fails, does it? You Trump supporters always bring up Hillary. It's usually Benghazi or uranium. The one having been investigated no less than TEN TIMES (once by Gowdy) and having found nothing and the other a charge so ridiculous none but the farthest far out are still working it.

    Quote:

    Anyone who supported HC for president should be ashamed to say so much as a single negative word about Mr. Trump.
    Does that include the 66 million who voted for Clinton - 3 million more than Trump!

    For someone who preaches civility, you don't seem very civil yourself.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 05:13 AM
    jlisenbe
    Obama supporters always trot out the same nonsense. Always the same narrative. The country was about to fall apart, blah, blah, blah, but saint Obama managed to forestall that. 8 years and 10 trillion dollars of debt later, the economy was still only limping along. He had eight years to see a true economic recovery and failed miserably. Trump accomplished that in 18 months. He has made it clear to NATO that it's time for them to pick up the burden for their own defense. NoKo has stopped testing missles and is making at least some progress towards dismantling their nukes. And yes, the 73 Roe decision had nothing to do with law. The Constitution is not even quoted in the majority decision. You are OK with babies killed in the womb. I am not. The principle of the rule of law is vague? Only to you.

    It's difficult to discuss these things with someone who is intentionally blind.

    And I'll say it again, since no one has bothered to answer it. If you supported Ms. Clinton, then you have no ground to complain about a president who lies. The Clintons were both accomplished, skillful liars. Just remember, for one example, the ridiculous tale she told of flying into Kosovo under sniper fire and having to be hurried off the base. Turned out that the story was just another Clinton whopper.

    I am not a Trump supporter. He does many things I don't like (routinely lying is one of them), and if a sensible candidate is put forward in two years, I'll vote for that person. But I get tired of reading material from people who are so full of passionate hate for Trump that they cannot be fair-minded in their appraisal of his performance, nor can they defend their support of a candidate who was equally a liar.

    I'm done. This is going no where.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 05:55 AM
    talaniman
    I get that way too watching the loudmouth Dufus tweet and talk on TV spewing lies and crazy stuff. One can only imagine how sensible people who hated Hillary must feel with this Dufus as the only alternative. I see no change in 2020 though but you can always send a democratic house and senate to Washington as a balance to The Dufus.

    That's how the founders solved that queasy feeling with an election every TWO years. Good for reigning in would be dictators and incompetent DUFUSES.

    Just sayin' and enjoy your coffee.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 06:59 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Just sayin' and enjoy your coffee.
    Ha! I did. Thanks.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 10:51 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'm done. This is going no where.


    Good that you are done since you're contributing nothing here. Losers are always quick to quit the field. You simply repeat lies straight from the playbook of Trump without a scintilla of evidence. Your incivility and rudeness is remarkable for a newbie to this page.

    For those of us who consider Trump a "dufus", we have statistics readily available, Trump's own words from videos, innumerable tweets, a long history of Trump's business failures and evidence of a character so corrupt it boggles the mind. Trump's supporters almost invariably claim that they "don't support his lies and behavior", but voted for him anyway. One wonders.

    It's a sad truth that Trump's supporters are primarily the Republican establishment who have put party agenda ahead of country, evangelicals who have subordinated the message of their founder to the single issue of abortion, and those who hope Trump will bring back a world that never was and that Trump repeatedly caters to with his never-ending campaign rallies.

    His promises are hollow and his support is fraying at the edges as more and more of Trump's supporters are deserting him with every new increasingly bizarre position he manages to adopt as he frantically tries to get out from under in a world that is closing around him.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 12:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Good that you are done since you're contributing nothing here. Losers are always quick to quit the field. You simply repeat lies straight from the playbook of Trump without a scintilla of evidence. Your incivility and rudeness is remarkable for a newbie to this page.
    That's the funniest statement I've read in a long time, and I'll bet you can't figure out why. That's why I'm outa here. It's your unwillingness to think seriously without bitterness. Sad.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 04:12 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post

    I'm done. This is going no where.

    Good that you are able to recognise the circular nature of these debates
  • Jul 29, 2018, 06:30 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That's the funniest statement I've read in a long time, and I'll bet you can't figure out why. That's why I'm outa here. It's your unwillingness to think seriously without bitterness. Sad.


    Sorry, bait not taken. Seems you used this same strategy on another page on this website. Didn't work there, won't work here.

    Then you charge others with not thinking seriously. This is what Trump does consistently - accuses the opposition of the very thing he is guilty of. Throw in a few ad hominems and you have a tried and true tactic used by demagogues for many years. You do it, but not very well. Your posts here are transparent to anyone reading them.

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
  • Jul 29, 2018, 10:22 PM
    paraclete
    Maybe it's you who should take a time out
  • Aug 4, 2018, 10:07 AM
    jlisenbe
    As I thought. He could not figure out why. Too consumed with bitterness.

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