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@cdad, It took just a few minutes to confirm my memory isn't completely awol. I remember thinking then that is will end up biting us in the a$$ someday. It was originally called the 1033 program if you want to read more about it.

A congressional report in 1972 recommended centralizing the disposal of United States Department of Defense (DoD) property for better accountability. In response, on September 12, 1972, the Defense Supply Agency (now known as the Defense Logistics Agency) established the Defense Property Disposal Service (renamed the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service in 1985) in Battle Creek, Michigan, as a primary-level field activity. On July 19, 2010, as part of a "We Are DLA" initiative, the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service was renamed the Defense Logistics Agency Disposition Services.Functions[edit]

DLA Disposition Services disposes of the military's excess property. It does this through:^[1]

reutilization within the DoD
transfer to other federal agencies
donation to state and local governments.

All of this is very interesting but this becomes insurrection or the black community stand down. With the escalation being shown by authorities this can only end in more bloodshed. I think you are a little fortunate you don't have an armed black population

@parttime, What you don't seem to be understanding is how the giveaway works. Before there had to be a purchase by LEO and a commitment to maintain. Now Homeland security is giving out grants like candy so much of the equiptment they are getting is virtually free. When they receive it they intend to use it. They try to find the slightest excuse and run with it. Its a shame.

Dad I fully understand, my post was in response to your #36 post that put the blame on Obama for building up a civilian military when in fact it started years ago.

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They have prepared themselves for the jihad to come, since the populace is allowed to own any weapon, the police must out gun them. You might not have muslim problems but you certainly have extreme right wing groups

Its not the extreme right wing groups that pose the threat to this country.. its the extreme left wing groups that feel the Constitution and the rule of law are obsticals to their agenda and get in the way of achiving their goals. And they are a larger threat than the Jihadi Janes out there.

This is possibly a false flag operation so Obama can declare habius Corpus and do what he wants free of critisism or controls.

Agent Provocateur Filmed in Ferguson? Threw Smoke Bombs at Police, While Cops Did Nothing -

What part does the DOJ have to play in this....

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08...-stop-looting/

Armed vigilantes from all over don't rate any policing, but unarmed black people have every cop and the national guard scrambling with all the firepower they can find. White rancher breaks the law and gets convicted after 20 years in court, black guy gets shot for jaywalking and stealing cigars. Drunk white teen kills 4 gets rehab, brother selling loose cigarettes gets gang tackled and choked to death.

WTF!!

Gee... the fact they are rioting, looting and burning has nothing to do with it? That's rather biased isn't it? There is NOTHING peaceful about the criminal element reaking havoc in Ferguson. I'm willing to best most of them are on welfare and food stamps and other government handouts. A large number probibly live in Section 8 housing or Projects.

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08...uson-protests/

Black Panters are involved...that racist troublemaking equal to the KKK. Yep...the lefties are showing their true colors there as to who they associate with.

Actually a new Army Manual speaks volumes....

http://info.publicintelligence.net/U...ances-2014.pdf

Witness video shows Michael brown was NOT unarmed and NOT innocent...

A Witness Conversation Unknowingly Captured at the Scene of the Ferguson Shooting is a Game-Changer

A previously unnoticed detail in a background conversion of a video taken minutes after the Ferguson shooting could change the course of the investigation into Mike Brown's death.
The original video poster appears sympathetic to the narrative that Mike Brown was shot unarmed with his hands in the air. But he unknowingly picks up conversation between a man who saw the altercation and another neighbor.
An approximate transcription of the background conversation, as related by the “Conservative Treehouse” blog, who originally discovered the conversation:
@6:28/6:29 of video

#1 How'd he get from there to there?

#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck

{crosstalk}

#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him

{crosstalk}

#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

[there is dispute here whether he says "doubled back" or "coming back."]
#1. Oh, the police got his gun

#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I'm thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him

{crosstalk}

#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing

#1 The Police?

#2 The Police shot him

#1 Police?

#2 The next thing I know … I'm thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

This is terribly important because if Mike Brown had been shot, and he advanced towards the cop instead of surrendering, it would substantiate the narrative that the policeman shot in self-defense due to the fact that he was being threatened with severe bodily harm. This corroborates an account of the event given by a friend of Officer Darren Wilson:

Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren's first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”
It's far too unlikely that these two accounts are similar accidentally, having been from such disparate sources. The apparent witness in the background conversation is speaking with detail about the tragic shooting, and in a manner that runs contrary to the widespread version. Those who watch the video need to judge for themselves if the witness sounds reliable (but he would seemingly have nothing to gain by telling such a story.)
A third piece of the puzzle would be the toxicology report. If there happens to be anything found that might explain how Mike Brown might have been shot and kept advancing toward the officer, then the defense becomes even more believable. Unless someone is emotionally invested in an alternative narrative to the extent that one might ignore plain facts.
We shall see.
Co-Authored by Kyle Becker

Let's try to separate fact from fiction. There is one eyewitness report that said he lay on the sidewalk but the video I saw had him laying in the street in a pool of blood, there is another eyewitness report that said he had his hands up and yet this one says he was running. Two bullets at least entered his body in a downward path suggesting at least that he was bent forward on impact. A police car in that video was least least fifty feet away from the body, but no indication this was the officers car. Supposedly he was in the company of another person, why have we not heard any account of what that person has said about this or the reported robbery. The possibility that this fellow was a local hood who intimidated shopkeepers and his standover attitude betrayed him

If a black cop killed a white teen would we be having this discussion? Probably not. Racism reversed?

What if a black cop.would have killed Brown?

Good question WG.

Here's a medical question for you, J. How can they do a third autopsy?

Looking at bullet trajectories. Possibly gun powder residue.

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Looking at bullet trajectories. Possibly gun powder residue.

They have already eliminated gun power residue, he was not shot close enough for gun power residue

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They have already eliminated gun power residue, he was not shot close enough for gun power residue

Baden didn't have access to the clothes necessary to detect gunpowder residue. The trajectory of the bullets suggested that the shots were fired from more than 3 feet (if I remember correctly) away. He was also shot from the front, not the back as originally suspected.

Again, I ask you, if this were a white kid shot by a black cop, would we be having this discussion? Would there me Martial Law? Probably not.

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They have already eliminated gun power residue, he was not shot close enough for gun power residue

Further checking -- On his skin but not on his clothes? Brown's DNA on the gun? A third autopsy would just be fresh eyes looking at the autopsy?

A third autopsy would call in different people with different perspectives. It's possible that they didn't have someone with significant ballistic expertise for the first two.

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What if a black cop.would have killed Brown?

Well you could rule out the racism excuse and get down to the fact that Brown was a common criminal. A lot of things go into this black/white divide. Racism on both sides, attitude, both of the police and the population. But I ask you, how often is the accused actually innocent? Here we have black teen in a disadvantaged neighbourhood, obviously doin' his thung and this white cop has the audacity to pull him over and question his a$$, maybe even arrest his A$$. I mean where is the world comin' too, you have a black president on the throne and still whitey doesn't get whose in charge

Apparently there are over a dozen eye-witnesses that have come forward that support the police officers version of events... but you won't hear about any of them on the lame stream media because they have an agenda to push.

Reporter: More Than 12 Witnesses. Officer Wilson Shot in Self-Defense -

Interesting transcript, so what do we have a hopped up perp and a cop, a lone cop. What happen to backup, not patroling alone and cameras in the car, but then I guess this is backwoods Missouri not hell hole Chicago

Most cops work alone around here, I don't even see cops 2 to a car in DC most times. Can't comment on Chicago... I only passed through there 4 times in my life and I didn't linger. Rememebr when this went down.. it was just another day and no degenerates were rioting.

Yes you are right no one suspected two louts would do over a storekeeper and just wander down the road as if no one cared, obviously they expected the cops to be asleep, or eating donuts or whatever

This is well written and well done:
How we'd cover Ferguson if it happened in another country - Vox

Bit of a stretch there Karma. I have a fair idea what would happen here because we have seen it and the darker members of the community got tired of their protest after three days, but then they weren't opposed by the military. The situation there is you have police and agitators and the locals are caught in between and it will go on until the agitators are persuaded that they should go elsewhere. It would be helpful, no doubt, if the officer involved were placed in custody pending a hearing. In saying that I am not assigning blame but recognising that the circumstances were somewhat extraordinary and there is a perception of onesided treatment in the community, These guys need to learn that where there is racial tension that policing should be handled as far as possible by police from that racial group.

In other countries I have no doubt authorities would be much more heavy handed and intolerant of agitators and protestors generally. You need to also recognise that this isn't trial by media and starting a legal process changes that game

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Bit of a stretch there Karma.

Not at all. It's a parody on the wording and language the media uses to report items in other countries. I think it's extremely well done and eye opening.

What floors (and annoys) me is that degenerates are coming in from other places -- Chicago, NYC, and even California! -- like moths to a flame, to add to the chaos with robbing stores and firing pistols and picking fights with cops. A TV reporter just mentioned that many of the arrests last night were of out-of-towners who are also pushing the cops to get them to fire their guns to cause even more mayhem.

I wouldn't be surprised if Al Sharpton is involved, he is always around to stir up trouble in these kinds of situations where there is racial tension.

didn't I see a video of him addressing the crowd, he is part of the equation

Families and local clergy always call him in. He is a prominent black activist whether white people like him or not.

Activist?. more like blowhard. He's only in it for himself and to line his own pockets... same as Jesse Jackson. Neither of them give a damn about anyone else.

I say the same about Rush Limbaugh so what?

Rush Limbaugh doesn't parade around begging for money from anyone pretending to want to help them. Rush Limbaugh also speaks for himself... Rush earns his own money, he doesn't go around begging others for it, he doesn't pretend to be the voice of white america UNLIKE Sharpton and Jackson claim to be for blacks... who appointed them to that position anyway? Seems to me they self appointed themselves. I know a LOT of blacks that say neither of those two speak for them or for their benefit.
Rush and those two blowhards couldn't be more different in every possible way.

What does it matter whose stirring up the crowd, fact is it is happening

And if it was Klansmen doing it... they would be in jail for inciting to riot. But its obvious some people under this administration and this Attourney General are above the law, as proven many times over the last 6 years.

Tonight the looters might be shot and killed!

We can only hope.

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Tonight the looters might be shot and killed!

Oh, goodness!

One can only hope....