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  • Jun 17, 2014, 06:26 PM
    smoothy
    Based on what was discovered for people registered in 2 or more states just from VA and NC alone... it translates into far more suspect votes than that. Since most of that 5 million where people voting two or more times and people who had no right to vote at all.

    And the second one was a far smaller margin than that.
  • Jun 17, 2014, 07:53 PM
    paraclete
    and all of this avoids scrutiny and presecution...how?. The question is.. prove it
  • Jun 18, 2014, 05:07 AM
    smoothy
    We have... the lame stream media won't report it because they were responsible for much of the fraud... then you have their minions arguing that the places that do report on it aren't reliable... then you have certain elected officials that just chose to igore it because they have a vested interest in continuing the fraud because they benefit from it.

    Look at the Department of Justice... headed up by a criminal and serial lawbreaker Eric Holder... Not to mention Obama who thinks he is above the law by deciding what laws will be ignored and writing he own without authority.

    How does it happen? Would you put Known Mafia Godfathers in charge of the task force investigating Organized crime? THen take their word that the Mafia doesn't exist and is a figment of everyone's imagination?
  • Jun 18, 2014, 05:10 AM
    paraclete
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    figment of everyone's imagination?

    I get the idea there are a lot of figaments of someone's imagination
  • Jun 18, 2014, 05:16 AM
    smoothy
    If this sort of thing was happening at this level in YOUR government... I've certain you would be mighty upset about it...

    It IS happening here... laws are being broken that are intended to protect whistleblowers... and the main stream media makes it their duty to cover it all up.

    That's why you see the lefties spew the vitriol towards FOX news and ALL of the alternative media... because they were used to having a captive audience and there used to be nobody reporting on the things they didn't want made public... thats why the big basition of liberal propaganda like the New York Times and the Washington Post and many others are on the verge of bankruptcy. More and more people are learning how they have been manipulated by the media.
  • Jun 18, 2014, 05:21 AM
    paraclete
    We do get upset about we just had a rerun of the senate election in Western Australia because someone conveniently lost some votes before a recount. Resulted in the electoral commissioner in charge resigning, doesn't anyone over there resign when they stuff up.

    As far as bankruptcy of the print media is concerned, they are going the way of the dinosaur courtesy of the internet
  • Jun 18, 2014, 05:32 AM
    smoothy
    Unfortunately... not enough people that get caught resign when they get caught with their hand in the Till, or the interns pants.

    A few actually do resign... but the overwhelming majorty refuse to... because of ego, arrogance, greed, or whatever their personal motivation is.
  • Jun 18, 2014, 06:53 AM
    paraclete
    interesting system
  • Jun 19, 2014, 08:21 AM
    smoothy
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    THis is the root of most of our problems... this is Obamas self image... and how many of us see him acting like.

    Attachment 46171
  • Jun 19, 2014, 08:57 AM
    NeedKarma
    paraclete:
    You get the idea of how us outside of the U.S. view the right-wingers there based on the above.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:08 AM
    smoothy
    Clete... you see how certain people can believe the Stereotype of many Canadians being completely clueless based on the above.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:16 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Canadians being completely clueless based on the above
    How's that?
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:20 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    How's that?
    That most people outside the USA see it as well as most people INSIDE the USA. Just look how arrogant he acts when he walkes into the room...makes you want to run over and smack him upside his head.

    Thank God for cable tv.....every time his concieted azz calls another photo op to bloviate.....there are plenty of other channels to watch....because we all know he's going to spew more lies.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:22 AM
    NeedKarma
    Canadians? Arrogant? You don't travel much do you? LOL.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:26 AM
    talaniman
    8 years of Hillary Clinton will probably push you over the edge.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:27 AM
    smoothy
    Not most of them... I wouldn't even say that... I said many of them.. and it was clueless , not arrogant I said. Even if those two many times go hand in hand... they don't have to.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:30 AM
    smoothy
    She would be hiding FROM the secret service long before then, the Secret Service peopel HATED her during Bills Terms.. Not to mention hiding from most of the American Public.

    Like I've said before....agree with his policies or not...Bill wasn't an unlikeable man......HIllary on the other hand.....is a person thats very hard to tolerate being around even for short periods.

    I could see how Monica Lewinski looked worth chasing to him....look at what he had to compare to.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    You totally edited your question after I replied to it... again!
    Piss off.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 09:35 AM
    smoothy
    No I didn't... you misread it the first time through.

    I've been to Canada.. and I know enough Canadians I wouldn't have thought much less said MOST. There are many dimwits in this country too...most are liberals too, like they are most places.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 03:33 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    That most people outside the USA see it as well as most people INSIDE the USA. Just look how arrogant he acts when he walkes into the room...makes you want to run over and smack him upside his head.

    Thank God for cable tv.....every time his concieted azz calls another photo op to bloviate.....there are plenty of other channels to watch....because we all know he's going to spew more lies.

    what on Earth are you talking about? you are a media driven society and the whole thing is an act, you don't like what you see on TV turn it off as to arrogance there is nothing as arrogant as an american outside america
  • Jun 19, 2014, 04:59 PM
    smoothy
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    what on Earth are you talking about? you are a media driven society and the whole thing is an act, you don't like what you see on TV turn it off as to arrogance there is nothing as arrogant as an american outside america
    Right... listen to yourself.. EVERYTHING you know about almost everything not in your own back yard you get from a biased media no different than most other people on the planet.

    Have you spent much time outside your own country? Or someplace that has a lot of foreign tourists? I'm guessing you haven't... because you'd know... a LOT of foreign traveling tourists are arrogant... because most of them are... "oh look at me, I am special because I can afford to do this while you go about your boring lives" Not even thinking how many OTHER people can and do... usually far, far more often than they do.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 05:28 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Right... listen to yourself.. EVERYTHING you know about almost everything not in your own back yard you get from a biased media no different than most other people on the planet.

    Have you spent much time outside your own country? Or someplace that has a lot of foreign tourists? I'm guessing you haven't... because you'd know... a LOT of foreign traveling tourists are arrogant... because most of them are... "oh look at me, I am special because I can afford to do this while you go about your boring lives" Not even thinking how many OTHER people can and do... usually far, far more often than they do.

    Yes I have spent a lot of time outside my own country in Europe and Asia as well as observing tourists here from time to time, but you have identified the problem there are people who think they are doing you a favour by blessing your country with their presence and like you really need their opinion. Tourists who come to a place that is different to their own have to recognise that there is a difference for a reason. If you just want to go to a place that looks the same and feels the same stay home
  • Jun 19, 2014, 06:44 PM
    smoothy
    Some of the most arrogant are those from the poorer countries... because the ones that managed to save enough to travel think they are so superior... since many of their fellow countrymen are lucky to own a pair of shoes... and have windows in their shack. I'm guessing a lot of them had been saving their entire lives to make that one trip... I guess I notice it a lot because it really isn't a big deal to me (after something like 27 trips back and forth... the excitement really is a distant memory)... so its hard to remember the excitement they must feel... but I have been around far too many of the uppity type. I used to think it was a result of the caste system... then I realized it goes well beyond that when I saw that among most other geographic and ethnic groups.
  • Jun 19, 2014, 08:34 PM
    paraclete
    It's just pride and this is reinforced in certain national and religious characteristics, "it's better where I come from" syndrome and I always say, well if it is better why did you leave? personally I like the place where I live to stay the way it is, it doesn't need the latest overseas influences, they will find their way here soon enough but here's the catch, someone thinks that tourism should be encouraged whereas I wonder what on the Earth the attraction of where I live is to a coach load of asian tourists, have they come to see our wide tree lined streets?, our neat houses? our well laid out cities? have they come to see the lack of traffic or a place devoid of large rivers? have they come to see buildings that are no older than two hundred years? do they expect to see mobs of kangaroo in the streets or even the paddocks? don't they have mountains? oceans?
  • Jun 20, 2014, 06:43 AM
    talaniman
    Tourism is good, running from regional problems is not so great. Tourist go home after vacation to a life, refugees don't have that luxury. Some immigrants forget where they came from after they have arrived and done better.

    I suppose its human nature in many cases to forget your own struggles in the humble beginnings and feeling entitled and self righteous when you have arrived. Or is it a character flaw of humans to have no empathy, sympathy, or understanding of the desperation you have forgotten. Or the gratitude to have the opportunity to do better.

    For sure we all need a place to run from our fears, and some of us found what others are looking for. Some think they are entitled to look down their noses at those who have not ARRIVED yet, simply because they remember others who look down at them.

    Be grateful you have the choice to be sympathetic, or an A$$HOLE. A tourist, or a refugee.
  • Jun 20, 2014, 03:45 PM
    paraclete
    I am grateful to look out the window and see the fog and know it will lift to a bright day and to know I will have to deal with a minimum of, as you put it, a$$holes. I can be sympathetic for those who are disadvantaged for various reasons but we now have more refugees in the world than we have had in sixty years and all because of the actions of a few thousand religious nuts and I ask myself how is it that the 60 million haven't just risen up and overwhelmed these nuts and one word comes to mind fear. It is our own hands to stop this nonsense but nothing will change until those most affected take matters into their own hands
  • Jun 20, 2014, 04:45 PM
    smoothy
    If you aren't willing to fight for your own country, then well... you have earned the right to be looked down upon with disdain by others who would.

    Israel has females fighting for their country... so can the others.

    They don't have the moral right to break our laws because its "Incoinvienient" for them to get in line like so many others do every day.
  • Jun 20, 2014, 04:56 PM
    NeedKarma
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    If you aren't willing to fight for your own country, then well... you have earned the right to be looked down upon with disdain by others who would.
    So by your logic, everyone who is not in the armed forces should "be looked down upon with disdain by others"? Is that it?
  • Jun 20, 2014, 05:20 PM
    smoothy
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    So by your logic, everyone who is not in the armed forces should "be looked down upon with disdain by others"? Is that it?
    You don't HAVE to be in the armed forces to fight for your country... particularly in these third world hell holes. In fact in a few of them... they are part of the problem.
  • Jun 20, 2014, 05:56 PM
    paraclete
    we have seen the expressions of people power over the past fifty years, when the people decide they have had enough, regimes fall, so why can't they take on a few radicals with the same ferocity handed out to them, there is only one way to deal with these radicals anniliation and the force to do it is not the military but the people, they know who they are

    An I have long said Islam represents a fifth column in western countries and look now, western governments are acting to prevent the jihadists from returning. the lesson is, if you want to be a ratbag, don't expect to be welcomed home as a hero
  • Jun 21, 2014, 07:56 AM
    smoothy
    Here we have Obama saying on video... what conservatives have been saying all along... and the left has been arguing he's never said muchless intended.




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...;v=YfRtbIQ1kTw
  • Jun 21, 2014, 12:41 PM
    NeedKarma
    An edited video that smoothy believes without doing any research whatsoever - I'm shocked!

    Here's the full context
    Quote:

    "But those ideals have also been tested, here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others and that individual identity must be defined by us versus them, or that national greatness must flow not by what people stand for, but what they are against."
    Small minded people blindly believe what others tell them, it's always good to go to the source to verify.
  • Jun 21, 2014, 03:29 PM
    paraclete
    clearly there are people who handle the stress of office better than others thus suggesting there are the governed and the governors, throughout history there are exceptional individuals

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