My book says Don't hate, love. My book says beat the swords into ploughshears, my book also says don't tolerate evil, if you have evil people come out from among them
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My book says Don't hate, love. My book says beat the swords into ploughshears, my book also says don't tolerate evil, if you have evil people come out from among them
Denigrating a whole peoples religion for the behavior of a few is not love. No more than bad behavior in the name of whatever your god. Especially given we see bad behavior in every religion, or nonreligion.
Or is the real problem there is one God but different books? Or maybe the problem is that who writes the book says who God is. And ENFORCES their law. Regardless hate is hate no matter the book, or what you call your god.
who denigraded their religion, they did it themselves, their hate spilled over into the attack on people who had nothing to do with them and what about those who danced in the streets when your nation was attacked. I expect you will tell me that is the act of a rational people just following their religion which is to be repected. You pat them on the head if you want. Nazism was in itseelf a athiestic expression of a religious system which has been outlawed for its atrocoties, I say Islam possesses many of the same characteristics. Even Egypt, a Muslim country recognises that the behaviour of certain islamists is unacceptable, the behaviour of the followers of Islam in Africa is unacceptable, in Syria is unacceptable, you even started a war because the behaviour of islamists was unacceptable and yet you want to defend them. idealistic nonsense.
How far do they have to go until, like the Japanese, you have to use the ultimate solution to stop them
Yep, that's what the catholics did.Quote:
who denigraded their religion, they did it themselves,
That makes no sense whatsoever.Quote:
Nazism was in itseelf a athiestic expression of a religious system
So you don't believe that most Muslims want the same thing you do. To live in peace, thrive and prosper? You would rather hate and rant on them all and blame their religion instead of understand the few are making BS for the many.
If their hate and denegration is WRONG, so is yours.
The problem with any system gone bad is the box. People live in that box and it becomes part of their accepted lifestyle. Right now there are many that are allowing that box to expand. It is the real problem behind radical muslim behavior. It must be fought against from all sides and those inside the box need to learn that there are other ways of life otherwise we risk being consumed by its ways. Change needs to come from within as well as from the outside. Acceptance isnt going to create change. This behavior has been this way throughout mans history. Make no mistake what is happening now is no less dangerous then what it has been in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
From the Jews to the Gentiles many religions have undergone the same changes the Muslim world is now going through, and it does take a long time to even recognise the repressions and figure out what to do to change it. It usually involves a big internal/external war and struggle before freedom is achieved.
I give you credit for your reference to RADICAL Islam. At least you recognize its a smaller group that is raising hell to keep power over the many.
Tal I have have heard the attitudes, you get close to a muslim and he will talk about jihad, fighting for his muslim brothers, this attitude is not confined to muslims but it must be rooted out. I heard the same attitudes in Scotland when they spoke about the problems in Ireland. it had nothing to do with nationalism and whole lot to do with hatred. Dad identified it well, the system has gone bad. Karma spoke of the catholics denegrating their religion but it isn't the same thing when a predatory priest preys on a child, the people don't condone the behaviour, but where are the muslim voices condemning the behaviour? No they applaud as if the victory of a small group is a victory for all. Do you think 200 girls can just vanish in Nigeria without the help of the population, that the population arn't in sympathy with Boko Harum?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I supervised many male and female Muslim, Hindu, Christian, and atheist library volunteers for over 15 years and worked side by side with them and similarly affiliated coworkers. Never was the word "jihad" said, even in jest.
No the word is not popular now, but it used to be popular with every muslim expected to respond. I first heard it in response to the Israeli Six Day war. A christian will not use the word it is not part of their psyche and hindus don't have the concept but are very defensive about religion
I was out of town a few days...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Nope... you watched Christmas Vacation with Chevy Chase a few times to many. We don't have one of those Christmas Decoration competitions going on that can be seen from the International Space Station. In fact my decorations are fairly modest by local standards.
There is a disconnect here somewhere, I suspect it occurs at the Canadian border
I was thinking the city limits. Maybe even the front door.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
call it how you like it's your front door, I was giving you the benefit of the doubtQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I mean HIS front door... their attitude isn't common in the USA... and I honestly don't think it is in Canada either based on the other Canadians I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Which attitude is that?
And by your previous comments about Canada it's plainly obvious that you have no friends here nor have you visited for any amount of time.
Your numerous comments have proven your world view is based exclusively on what you hear on TV and the radio (which is basicly pure propaganda), and that you haven't been outside of your own city much if ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
So what attitude were you referring to?
P.S. not sharing my world travels with you, I don't have a need to impress anyone.
Give it some thought... I think you have a naïve perspective of the world... but I don't think you are dumb.
Here we go again, the refusal to answer by playing childish games.
as I've said before get a room
I don't have those tendencies...
Do you own a mirror? Time to get one and look in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
If you don't want people to judge Americans based on a few people than don't do the same to Muslems and Canadians.
I am insulted you think I follow mainstream news and think you know what I stand for. You have no clue. In fact I am one of the people that are probably on a watch list somewhere due to my beliefs and what I fight for. DO NOT JUDGE OTHERS AS IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE AN @SS.
Also judging people based on race, color, religion, lack of religion, piercings, tats, etc mean you may miss out on some very good friends in this life. How about you look at people as individuals and see what their character, their morals are.
I am really tired of the worlds racism and prejudice. By society standards I am only a fat ugly person (judgemental people) but there is more to me than that. I am an animal activist, a fundraiser, donator to help out the homeless, political activist, etc.
I have my reasons... very valid ones that nobody on this earth can make amends for.
I almost died in the Pentagon the morning of 9/11, Was a miricle I got out right before it happened, people I worked with all that night weren't so fortunate, their names are on the memorial. I spent months with others in my office dealing with the damage in Manhattan following that getting communications back up. Its well know who all did it, and what religion they were, I also vividly remember the cheers in the streets in Muslim nations that day...particularly one snaggle toothed Palestinian woman in the Gaza Strip. If she did that in front of me....I would have choked her to death with my own two hands.
There isn't bias here... just pure unadulterated facts precious few people were ever exposed to... I also was deeply involved in the Desert Shield and Desert Storm... more than I can say yet because its not been 25 years. 99% of what I saw never got released in any way shape or form...mainstream news or otherwise. You really didn't see the uneditied pictures and video of what they did in the name of their religion over there.....or here for that matter on either of those, nor did most people.
Now if you read my posts you would know there were some who have earned my trust,that I consider friends.....but I have every reason to be distrustful of the rest until given a reason to believe otherwise. What really happened in Benghazi Libya to our Embassador (something quickly covered up by the mainstream media) is proof of why distrust is a good rule of thumb.
You are right smoothy most of them give into their base instincts because they are not taught otherwise, but how can you be when your education consists of endlessly repeating a few pages of an ancient book, in any other society that is called brainwashing and it is a technique that has been used in other than religious situations.
However the bleeding hearts are not going to agree that something that is inherently evil should be destroyed for the good of all,they cling to the idea that evil is in the eye of the beholder
Ironic thing is if they had posted how horrible this decision was and the sentence did not fit the crime and left the prejudice and judging all Muslims based on a few, I would have agreed with them. I will say I see decisions by judges world wide I think are not right and make no sense.
Case in point in the US, Texas I think, a man just got away with drugging his wife over 3 years and assaulting her sexually. I can not remember the exact charge but he confessed to it in court. The wife found out when she seen videos or pictures on his cell of the acts. He got house arrest no jail time.
Now I am not going around saying how horrible Texans are because he is one person and does not represent all Texans. I look at him and base my thoughts on him based on his character, morals etc.
PLease stop judging all Canadians based on a few. IF you don't like me fine don't like me but don't judge based on where I live. Which if you think about it, it is strange. Where a person lays their head dictates their morals and character.
Sorry I have to correct myself I made a mistake. It was Indianna. The charges were :
Six felony charges of rape and deviate conduct that normally carry prison terms of six to 20 years apiece. He was given this sentence by a judge.
Indiana judge assailed for light sentence in husband-wife rape case - Los Angeles Times
Your point is well taken Mogrann, you can find judicial stupidity anywhere you look.
The justice system is a farce in Quebec, some doctor named Guy Turcotte murdered his children and was then declared not criminally responsible and set free, but I think it was appealed and he may face justice, hope he goes to jail for life.
How do you set free a maniac, surely such people are taken into care
"He spent 46 months in psychiatric care before being deemed fit for release from a mental institution. Turcotte, meanwhile, remains behind bars."Quote:
then declared not criminally responsible and set free
got away with murder
He's still in jail.
then is debate is pointless
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