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  • Oct 17, 2013, 11:59 AM
    speechlesstx
    I found a new reason to be offended by the Filthydelphia Eagles, they're named in honor of this:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...NewDealNRA.jpg
  • Oct 20, 2013, 04:18 AM
    tomder55
    Since the emperor recognizes 'Redskins' as an offensive word ,I wonder if his new sense of pc will have him publicly take on the words that campaign contributor and his special guest on his inauguration day ,Jay Z calls young black men and young women .
  • Oct 20, 2013, 04:20 AM
    paraclete
    And what would that be perchance; black skins? The racism in your country knows no bounds, the veneer is cracking
  • Oct 20, 2013, 04:39 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:
    Quote:

    Since the emperor recognizes 'Redskins' as an offensive word
    If it were ONLY him, we shouldn't change it.. But, of course, it ISN'T only him. It's probably a rather large segment of society. But, even if it's a SMALL segment of society, WHY would you want to offend them?

    Apparently, you think you should be the arbiter of all things offensive.. And, if it doesn't offend YOU, it's NOT offensive.

    But, beyond that... I thought you wingers were gonna reach out to be more inclusive so you could, maybe WIN a presidential election... No, huh?

    excon
  • Oct 20, 2013, 05:36 AM
    tomder55
    I have taken no other position on this issue than to point out the hypocrisy of the emperor and the pc crowd, If I was the owner of the Skins I would change the name just to move past the bs.
  • Oct 20, 2013, 05:47 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    And what would that be perchance; black skins? The racism in your country knows no bounds, the veneer is cracking
    JayZ uses the N word to describe young black men... and hoe ,b*tches and other words for young black women. Apparently because Jay Z is black he's immune from criticism .He is often in attendance at the White House including the time I mentioned.

    Apparently the whole hip hop culture gets a pass. As an example here is the lyrics from Eminem's new hit song.
    I attempt these lyrical acrobat stunts while I'm practicing that
    I'll still be able to break a mother*ckin' table
    Over the back of a couple of faggots and crack it in half


    Clever eh ? Even lefties like Alex Baldwin gets slapped down for describing someone as a faggot. But Eminem will get sales and a platinum record out of it .
  • Oct 20, 2013, 06:01 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    It IS true that some people can call others n******, and some people can't. You find something WRONG with that. I find it sociologically INTERESTING. The relationships between the races is continually evolving, and these are simply steps along the way.

    Yes, I KNOW you guys think we've EVOLVED. You think racism is over, and as proof, you offer up our black president.

    I don't share your viewpoint.

    excon
  • Oct 20, 2013, 06:09 AM
    tomder55
    What you find socially interesting I find hypocritical. I would respect the bi racial emperor more if he wasn't so blatantly one sided. He needs a Sista Souljah moment ;and a smack down of Jay Z and the hip hop culture would do the trick.
    I don't think that electing a black President is an achievement at all because we elected the wrong one .Unlike the left ,I don't give him a pass because of the color of his skin ,nor do I form my opinions of him based on his color .
  • Oct 20, 2013, 06:12 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:
    Quote:

    and a smack down of Jay Z and the hip hop culture would do the trick.
    Again, you think the culture is BAD and WRONG. I don't. And, I'm sure the president doesn't either.

    excon
  • Oct 20, 2013, 06:29 AM
    talaniman
    You guys have gerrymandered the TParty into power, and to them the standard of governance is destroy everything they don't like, including their own. What will you do with them? What will you do with all those RHINOS? I bet there are more RHINOS than TParty.
  • Oct 20, 2013, 09:47 AM
    tomder55
    Ummm here In NY a repubic rep is a rare breed due to the very gerrymandering you complain about .
  • Oct 20, 2013, 10:12 AM
    talaniman
    Here in Texas also.
  • Oct 24, 2013, 09:51 AM
    tomder55
    Be careful which Halloween costume you wear .
    'Offensive' Halloween costumes banned by US university - Telegraph
    Guess I have to get rid of my Lone Ranger costume .
  • Oct 24, 2013, 10:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    As long as they don't dress like a twerking Miley Cyrus I don't much care.
  • Oct 24, 2013, 10:34 AM
    tomder55
    Or dress like Marines in their new uni-sex hats .
  • Oct 24, 2013, 12:02 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Or dress like Marines in their new uni-sex hats .

    I hear the idea was from the WH but I have to wonder if it was Lurch, you know, because our Marines don't look French enough.
  • Oct 24, 2013, 01:48 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    As long as they don't dress like a twerking Miley Cyrus I don't much care.

    Maybe they will all be naked because whatever they were to wear is bound to offend somebody.
  • Oct 24, 2013, 02:07 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Maybe they will all be naked because whatever they were to wear is bound to offend somebody.

    Good point, and of course being naked doesn't offend anyone.
  • Oct 25, 2013, 12:58 PM
    speechlesstx
    A MN congresswoman has asked the governor and the Metrodome to ban the Skins' logo and name from their upcoming game.

    Minnesota Vikings vs.Washington ____________ on Nov. 7th.
  • Oct 25, 2013, 02:41 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    A MN congresswoman has asked the governor and the Metrodome to ban the Skins' logo and name from their upcoming game.

    Minnesota Vikings vs.Washington ____________ on Nov. 7th.

    Hey, a thought, if these are all regional teams why do they need a mascot embelishment in their name?
  • Oct 26, 2013, 05:35 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Hey, a thought, if these are all regional teams why do they need a mascot embelishment in their name?

    Uh, that is the team name. Hard to announce a game between the New Yorks and the New Yorks, and the Dallases vs the Washingtons just doesn't have the same ring as Cowboys vs. Redskins.

    P.S. I wonder when the language police will start bleeping out the offending name here.
  • Oct 26, 2013, 05:41 AM
    excon
    Hello Steve:
    Quote:

    Finally, getting down to the real crisis in America
    You got that right... Racism IS the REAL crisis.

    excon
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:
    You got that right... Racism IS the REAL crisis.

    excon

    I'm not the one saying a black man that doesn't fall in line is a racist.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 04:46 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    I'm not the one saying a black man that doesn't fall in line is a racist.
    Who're we talking about? The black guy who wrote the racist letter you liked, or the owner of the Redskins???

    excon
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:11 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    Who're we talking about? The black guy who wrote the racist letter you liked, or the owner of the Redskins???

    excon

    Take your pick. We're all racists to you if we don't fall in line.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:18 AM
    talaniman
    NFL To Meet Oneida Indian Nation Officials About Redskins Name Controversy

    Quote:

    Halbritter, whose tribe runs a large casino resort in Verona in central New York, says the name is degrading and has devastating effects, especially on younger Indians.

    The tribe began pushing for a name change recently as the Washington Redskins faced fresh waves of criticism over their nickname. Even President Barack Obama weighed in, saying recently he would "think about changing" the name if he owned the team.

    It wasn't initially known where in the city the meeting will be held or if NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will attend.

    There was no immediate comment Friday from the NFL. A league spokesman had previously said it is important that the NFL listen to all perspectives.

    Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder has said he will never change the team's name and Goodell has said that it is ultimately Snyder's call.
    Racists, even unintentional ones never listen, they justify when confronted by those that are offended. They are often more offended than the person they offended in the first place.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:25 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    I can see you're hurt.. Buck up, winger. We have fights to fight. Look. You don't have to fall in line with ME. You don't have to fall in line at ALL, as far as I'm concerned.

    But, the LINE is set by society. I didn't set it. You didn't set it. But, it's SET. In YOUR circles, the line is way over to the right. For YOU guys, it's FINE to make fun of ethnicities, and it's fun to deny they're OFFENDED by it. If they're offended, it shows how SOFT they are, and might even be UN-American. Besides, it's another reason to make fun of them...

    In the letter you like, the guy is a racist. It matters NOT that he's black. The fact that you posted it, then threw your hands in the air with wide eyed look of innocence, and said it was HIS opinion - NOT yours, so obviously, you're BLAMELESS.

    But, you're NOT blameless.

    excon
  • Oct 28, 2013, 05:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    NFL To Meet Oneida Indian Nation Officials About Redskins Name Controversy



    Racists, even unintentional ones never listen, they justify when confronted by those that are offended. They are often more offended than the person they offended in the first place.

    The problem is this is one of those things in which we're on the same side but you'd rather demonize us for political ends instead of fighting actual racism, which perpetuates the problem and diminishes actual instances.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 06:16 AM
    talaniman
    Racism is about fear, and hatred, and POWER, and where and how and against who or what its directed at.

    You want to fight racism, then listen to the offended and ask WHY? Not just accept the OFFENDERS, no matter how well intentioned. Mr. Snyder ignores the offended to perpetrate his own tradition. He says he will NOT change. What he is saying is he won't listen to those that are OFFENDED.

    He doesn't have to be a racist to not listen. But his power to offend can no longer be denied, nor his justification of his tradition he wishes to market. He has the power to listen and change and he chooses not to.

    I will add that reference to the collective "you guys", or "us" is not personally directed at you.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 06:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Racism is about fear, and hatred, and POWER, and where and how and against who or what its directed at.

    You want to fight racism, then listen to the offended and ask WHY? Not just accept the OFFENDERS, no matter how well intentioned. Mr. Snyder ignores the offended to perpetrate his own tradition. He says he will NOT change. What he is saying is he won't listen to those that are OFFENDED.

    He doesn't have to be a racist to not listen. But his power to offend can no longer be denied, nor his justification of his tradition he wishes to market. He has the power to listen and change and he chooses not to.

    I will add that reference to the collective "you guys", or "us" is not personally directed at you.

    Who are you to pretend you care if someone is offended?

    Quote:

    What a racist joke claiming how well you treat yo' N********'s.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 07:34 AM
    NeedKarma
    Isn't that ankle biting and sniping?
  • Oct 28, 2013, 07:55 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Who are you to pretend you care if someone is offended?

    I didn't start that thread and invite people to let me have it. If I did I wouldn't get mad if I got what I asked for.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...nt-772123.html

    Quote:

    OK, let me have it.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 07:59 AM
    speechlesstx
    No, we were having a discussion. You on the other hand do nothing but stir up sh*t, that's ankle biting and sniping.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 09:23 AM
    NeedKarma
    I'll do what I please regardless on what pejorative you use to describe it. It's fun calling you out, or anyone out, on misrepresentations and hypocrisy.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 02:02 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I didn't start that thread and invite people to let me have it. If I did I wouldn't get mad if I got what I asked for.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...nt-772123.html

    That's a sorry excuse for a pathetic comment.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 02:03 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I'll do what I please regardless on what pejorative you use to describe it. It's fun calling you out, or anyone out, on misrepresentations and hypocrisy.

    When are you going to learn no one cares what a hypocritical wannabe board monitor like you thinks?
  • Oct 28, 2013, 02:25 PM
    talaniman
    Pathetic is the right wing glitch mob that makes more noise than sense. Try talking without a rock in your hand.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 02:30 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Pathetic is the right wing glitch mob that makes more noise than sense. Try talking without a rock in your hand.

    Do you even read what you write?
  • Oct 28, 2013, 02:40 PM
    talaniman
    Just a suggestion.
  • Oct 28, 2013, 03:50 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Just a suggestion.

    For a guy that throws a lot of rocks it was a curious thing to say (no comment from you NK, mind your own business). Did you not read where we're on the same side on racism, Tal? Should we work together to end actual racism or are you going to let ideology blind you?

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