Funny how the nanny state that won't let us buy Buckyballs is OK with using drivers as human marshmallows.
'Buckyballs' magnate says feds took him down for speaking out | Fox News
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Funny how the nanny state that won't let us buy Buckyballs is OK with using drivers as human marshmallows.
'Buckyballs' magnate says feds took him down for speaking out | Fox News
In fact, from 2009 to 2011, the CPSC says some 1,700 children have been hospitalized after ingesting Buckyballs or similar, high-powered magnets.
Children also have problems with peanuts, do we ban them, too?
I get it though, you're ok with public schools that can't teach people how to read warning labels, punishing success and selling toaster ovens on wheels.Quote:
Zucker says he worked vigorously with the agency and had five warning labels on the product.Maxfield & Oberton, Zucker's company, complied when the agency sought a recall in 2010, asking to adjust the warning label on the product. But in 2012, the agency sought a "stronger recall of the product."
"Essentially, it was a declaration that we were going out of business," Zucker said.The commission was on the brink of outlawing products that it not only approved, but even helped create the warning labels for, Zucker told FoxNews.com. He said the CPSC was adamant about the product recall, asked stores to stop selling them and did not listen to any recommendations from Maxfield & Oberton to assuage the agency's safety concern. The agency filed an administrative lawsuit hours after receiving his company's recommendation, he said.
With his million-dollar company belly-up for a product he still believes is safe, Zucker lashed out against what he considered government overreach. He took out online ads lampooning the nanny-state regulatory mentality.
"Coconuts: tasty fruit or deadly sky ballistic?" read one. "Stairways: are they really worth the risk?"
Got no sympathy for laid off Chinese workers in the grand scheme of things. Or conflating everything to the level blame the government. Warning labels? Make the magnets harder to swallow, like bigger, and changing the shape? Naw, too expensive and requires creativity.
great American success story.............importing small, high-powered magnets from China.
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Thanks for confirming my point.
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great American success story.............importing small, high-powered magnets from China.
\and this has to do with climate change, how? do the magnets change the weather?
More to the point Japan and Australia have backed off on forward committments to CO2 reductions which of course means the BRICS have their knickers in a knot about it, where were they in the days of Kyoto?
Japan has more important things to deal with . The Chi-coms are at it againQuote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
China claims air rights over disputed islands - World - The Boston Globe
so there is a typoon in the south china sea, what they are talking about is a couple of lumps of rock and it is all about oil anyway
it's about aggressive territorial expansion. It's not just Japan ,but EVERY country in the seas around Japan ;and every nation they border . Wake upQuote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
China has widened its radar net, Japan is upset that China has flown planes in the area. China has said this in no way impacts on the usual operations of other nations in the area.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I think you need to wake up! China has territorial claims, Japan has territorial cliams so China and Japan need to sort it out, hopefully without the warships lining up.
I think that your attitude is remarkable for an nation that has swallowed a great deal of territory merely on the basis of proximity
I wonder if Australia was similarly unconcerned when the Japanese were expanding their sphere.
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As I recall Tom we sold the Japanese certain commodites prior to WWII and expected our imperial pals to cover us with their umbrella, I see the same scenario and I hope we don't have the same outcome
Let us think about this latest agreement on climate chanege for a moment, the nations agreed to contribute to climate change abatement, they specifically didn't make committments. Could the aftermath of Kyoto have demonstrated that it is too hard, or foolish, to tie the nation to a specific level of emissions. Now my nation met its Kyoto committments but going beyond a 5% abatement target which basically takes us back to the 1990 start point is in the too hard basket. When we look at why; we have little heavy manufacturing left, our emissions come from transport and electricity generation and there hasn't been a new power station built in many years, in fact they are starting to think of mothballing one. I suspect it is just as difficult for other developed nations, there is nothing to give up but life style and our roofs to solar panels
Now Tom will get a laugh that many of those solar panels originate in China, we sell them commodities they refine, and we suspect contribute to emissions and they ship us equipment to abate emissions. It seems to me that something is working and this concentration on national emissions is so much hogwash
Speaking of selling things to China, they get a car company and we get stuck with the bill.
Fisker Automotive failure could hit U.S. taxpayers for years to come
as for us ;we have a security agreement with Japan dating to 1960 that requires us to defend the territorial claim of the islands by the Japanese . The rest of the nations in and around the 1st island chain will watch to see if we honor our commitment . A different President would've already flown B1 bombers through their so called air defense identification zone (ADIZ) in the East China Sea .Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Hello again,
Couple things.Quote:
Fisker Automotive failure could hit U.S. taxpayers for years to come
On another thread, tom mentions all the oil under his feet and said that economic development is the way to end poverty, or words to that effect. BUT, when economic development doesn't work so well, as in the Fisker, it's a BAD thing.
And, speaking of Fisker, the Chevy Volt, and Tesla, when the development of a brand new industry, ISN'T a straight line from conception to success, you right wingers BAD MOUTH the failures. You should be applauding the entrepreneurship, instead. Those companies are doing things the right wing should LOVE.
excon
And on every other post Tal complains about corporate welfare.Quote:
On another thread, tom mentions all the oil under his feet and said that economic development is the way to end poverty, or words to that effect. BUT, when economic development doesn't work so well, as in the Fisker, it's a BAD thing.
P.S. How much Medicaid and food stamps could you get for $488 million?
Hello again, Steve:
You always ask the wrong question.. Remember the son who complained that they didn't wear shoes in China? The RIGHT question is how much will we save when the technology WORKS..Quote:
How much Medicaid and food stamps could you get for $488 million?
The answer to that, of course, is EVERYTHING!!!
excon
So how many years should my daughter get crappy healthcare so you can have another hybrid automobile? You do know we already have hybrids by Toyota, Ford, Nissan, Honda, and well, pretty much everyone.Quote:
You always ask the wrong question.. Remember the son who complained that they didn't wear shoes in China? The RIGHT question is how much will we save when the technology WORKS..
The answer to that, of course, is EVERYTHING!!!
I would if that were the case. Instead what we have is the goverment trying to invent an industry on the taxpayer's dime. That aint entrepreneurship in a capitalist system ...that instead is cronyism ;passing on the taxpayer's money to industries the government favors at the expense of those not as connected . If tal et al complain about crony capitalism these examples are where you should begin your griping .Quote:
And, speaking of Fisker, the Chevy Volt, and Tesla, when the development of a brand new industry, ISN'T a straight line from conception to success, you right wingers BAD MOUTH the failures. You should be applauding the entrepreneurship, instead.
Hello again, Steve:
Again, it's the WRONG question, and the WRONG conclusion... Whether your daughter gets better care or not, DOES NOT DEPEND on whether we invest in new technology. You COULD have blamed the joint strike fighter that nobody wants, as the reason for your daughters crappy health care, and that would have made NO sense either.Quote:
So how many years should my daughter get crappy healthcare so you can have another hybrid automobile?
Plus, hybrids are NOT the holy grail that'll save the world. They are, but one, of MANY small steps we must make.
When I said EVERYTHING above, I meant everything.. You THINK us greenies want to DESTROY our standard of living, when actually we want to SAVE it. How is it that you don't understand that??? We ARE gonna run out of oil. If we DON'T have an alternative, our standard of living IS gonna CRASH, won't it??? What about this is so hard???
excon
All the rich guys are somebody's crony or another. It's not a big circle. We should all be outraged about corporate welfare given we are outraged about the poor getting it. Of course your worship of the dollar precludes some from seeing the difference between eating, and making money for rich guys.
I know, who cares if a poor family fails in economic downturns, or a middle classer loses their jobs, as long as rich guys stay rich whether they fail, or NOT. Now you want to say it's okay for your rich guys to get what they can but not mine? Dude get a grip, I ain't got no rich guy. And yours ain't doing much better for you either. I bet though if you tie their taxes and welfare to unemployment rates here at home, they would live up to the title of job creator that YOU give them.
Call it incentive for economic development.
Swiss Rage Against CEO Pay Provokes Vote on Salary Limits - Businessweek
Interesting idea.
Don't tell me what the right question is, I am not concerned about whether or not some Obama cronies get to make gazillions on yet another hybrid car or some rich liberal gets a shiny new hybrid sports car.. It's truly telling how you lefties whine about this very thing UNTIL it comes to your preferred industries and your cronies, at the expense of the very PEOPLE you b*tch about us not wanting to help.Quote:
Again, it's the WRONG question, and the WRONG conclusion... Whether your daughter gets better care or not, DOES NOT DEPEND on whether we invest in new technology.
I can find all manner of other wasteful spending to whine about so do we really need to go there? The market has already created your "solution" and has been selling them for years. If you want a plug-in hybrid luxury sports sedan build it yourself. The average Joe is never going to buy your damned Karmas and Volts so I fail to see how that's going to solve anything. If it were a reasonable investment for an affordable car, perhaps, but we have no business using taxpayer millions on status symbols.
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as for us ;we have a security agreement with Japan dating to 1960 that requires us to defend the territorial claim of the islands by the Japanese . The rest of the nations in and around the 1st island chain will watch to see if we honor our commitment . A different President would've already flown B1 bombers through their so called air defense identification zone (ADIZ) in the East China Sea
or some B-52s ...... ok I take it back kudos to the emperor for this move....
BBC News - US B-52 bombers challenge disputed China air zone
what ! he did exactly what you expected? he is more brainless that I thought, but then this is the sort of diplomacy we have come to expect from the USQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
So keeping our agreement with our allies them is brainless?
there are ways of doing these things that don't include escalation, imposing a military presence before talking it out is backwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Did they talk it out before claiming air rights? I didn't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I could well image that the US requres all aircraft approaching the US to identify themselves, how far that extends I don't know, but international standards suggest 200 miles is considered territorial waters where there is no other national presence. The Chinese didn't invent this
The islands are closer to Taiwan and they don't belong to China.Quote:
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Ever since it incorporated the Senkaku Islands into Japanese territory through a Cabinet decision in 1895, the Japanese government has consistently taken the position that the islands are an integral part of the territory of Japan. This stance accords with both international law and the historical facts. The Senkaku have consistently been under Japan’s effective control, except for a period (from 1945 to 1972) when the islands were placed under the administration of the United States as part of Okinawa prefecture.
Before 1971, neither China nor Taiwan made any claims to “territorial sovereignty” over the Senkaku Islands. For 76 years, neither government expressed any objection to Japanese sovereignty over the islands.
Why the change in position? In the late 1960s, a UN agency, the Bangkok-based Economic Commission for Asia and the Far East (ECAFE), surveyed the waters around the Senkaku. The survey suggested potentially rich deposits of oil beneath the seabed. After the ECAFE released its findings, in 1971, the Republic of China (Taiwan) made its first territorial claim to the islands. Several months later the People’s Republic of China followed suit.
So, let’s review the history of the issue more carefully. For ten years starting 1885, Japan conducted field surveys on the Senkaku Islands, scrupulously confirming that the islands had never been inhabited and showed no traces of having been under the control of China’s Qing Dynasty.
Based on this research, the Japanese government decided in January 1895 to erect national territorial markers on the islands, officially incorporating the Senkaku Islands into the territory of Japan. This administrative action was consistent with international law, namely the internationally accepted legal theory of terra nullius (land belonging to no one) concerning the rights of acquisition through occupation.
The Historical Record
As the record shows, Japanese inhabited the Senkaku from 1895 until immediately before the start of World War II. Japanese people sometimes lived on the islands to harvest albatross feathers. During another period, a factory was built to process dried bonito. The population of one of the islands, Uotsuri, topped 200 at one point. In 1920, residents of Ishigaki Island, which was under the jurisdiction of Okinawa prefecture, rescued Chinese fishermen caught in a storm in waters near the Senkaku. The Consul of the Republic of China in Nagasaki sent a signed and sealed letter of appreciation for the rescue in the area of “the Senkaku Islands in the Yaeyama District of the Japanese Empire’s Okinawa Prefecture.” The letter cited the names of the residents of Ishigaki Island, whom the consul noted “were willing and generous in the rescue operation.”
Just over three years after the People’s Republic of China’s birth, a January 8, 1953 article in the People’s Daily, an organ of the Communist Party of China had the Senkaku as Japanese territory. A World Atlas published in China in 1960 showed the islands as part of Japan. According to notes taken at meetings of the Chinese government around 1950, copies of which were recently obtained exclusively by the Jiji Press news agency, Chinese government officials were using the Japanese name “Senkaku Islands,” indicating that they considered the Senkaku part of Okinawa prefecture.
Nice research speech. So now there is a three way tustle for soverienty. I wonder it the islands have mineral riches why isn't anyone exploiting them, could it be they are once again terra nullius. In 1885 China was hardly in a position to argue with Japan, I think this is a Typoon in the china sea
Hello, I think this post is ridiculous. Science has not advanced this far that it can control weather. Otherwise there would be no blockage from snow drifts in cold areas. These hurricanes were part of a natural phenomena; you can read more on how huricanes and typhoons are created through this site: Nature Essays | Researchomatic
Hello Vincent thanks for bringing the thread back to the point. yes the arguments about whether we can control the weather are rediculous. If we have, by our actions, caused an imbalance, it will be a thousand years before we can redress that balance, but mankind is not reponsible for all of co2 emissions, so even if we stop now 60% still exist from volcanic activity, not to mention the possible impact of permafrost warming. We are fortunate that thus far ocean warming has helped to moderate the effect. I think we should begin to focus on what can be done, not what cannot be done. population is a huge factor in this. Continued population growth undos any effort we might make. if we don't take control of population the planet will do it for us
ah yes the Malthusian solution .it always comes back to humans need to be controlled by the big benevolent nanny state .
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China-Japan rearmament is Keynesian stimulus, if it doesn't go horribly wrong – Telegraph BlogsQuote:
Asia is on the cusp of a full-blown arms race. The escalating clash between China and almost all its neighbours in the Pacific has reached a threshold.......
The Senkaku islands offer a perfect opportunity for Beijing to test the resolve of the Obama Administration since it is far from clear to the war-weary American people why they should risk conflict in Asia over these uninhabited rocks near Taiwan, and since it also far from clear whether President Obama's Asian Pivot is much more than a rhetorical flourish.
Besides, Beijing has just watched the US throw its long-time ally Saudi Arabia under a bus over Iran. It has watched Moscow score an alleged victory over Washington in Syria. You and I may think it is an error to infer too much US weakness from these incidents, but that is irrelevant. Beijing seems to be drawing its own conclusions.
Sorta like the Cuban Missile crisis that happened after Khrushchev smacked down Kennedy at the Vienna Conference 1961. It speaks loudly about the perils of appearing weak ,when you hold the upper hand.Quote:
You and I may think it is an error to infer too much US weakness from these incidents, but that is irrelevant. Beijing seems to be drawing its own conclusions.
Kudos the the Aussies who summoned the Chinese ambassador and telling China that “the timing and the manner of China's announcement are unhelpful in light of current regional tensions, and will not contribute to regional stability.”
Criticism of China's ADIZ increases; Japanese airlines do a policy U-turn | The Japan TimesQuote:
“Australia has made clear its opposition to any coercive or unilateral actions to change the status quo in the East China Sea,” said Foreign Minister Julie Bishop.
Kudos doesn't get you better relations Tom, we are in two diplomatic storms now and both because we supported you. We must all assume China has weighed the risks and has decided that one aircraft carrier is enough to hold back the americansQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
who said anything about the nanny state, the advent of television had great impact on population growth in the west, it will help as it spreads in developing countries. We do need to recognise that food supply will become an issue as it has been in northern Africa and may even be in north america. Climate change brings with it the spread of disease as well as the problems of migration. If we don't arrest population growth the next century will see great conflict and enforced solutionsQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Don't worry about the Chinese, they have their own issues which makes them a bit surly. Let me know when you get a good solution to people breeding.
do tell
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