The biggest threat is what I call political corporatism. Not Marxism, not agrarian communism, but neo/political corporatism. They just don't see it or refuse to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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The biggest threat is what I call political corporatism. Not Marxism, not agrarian communism, but neo/political corporatism. They just don't see it or refuse to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I agree with you. I also don't understand how they don't see it.
Tom can't see it, he is blind, thinking he has found utopia. These corporations don't care about people, they peddle influence and it is a narcotic that the politicians imbibe willingly.
Tom you think your nation is righteous but it is one of the most corrupt places on Earth and made all the worse because the corruption is hidden
And in Russia the 'rotten intelligentsia' are now the oligarch billionaires . Our rotten intelligentsia is the progressive class ;especially the lefties who shape and created the system here that you refer to as corporate America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
Conservatives hate corporations? I hate corporations so am I a conservative? Maybe if they trickled down a lot more I would love 'em a lot more.
I must be a conservative as well.
So you say you prefer billionaires to people who want a fair dealQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Tom, you still refuse to see it. Political corporatism doesn't care about the left right distinction.The left right distinction is for people like us.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You in particular are in denial . Obamacare would not have passed without the backroom deals with corporations. Only now that the emperor is reneging is it losing support. You can't deny the fact that what you call Big Pharma (Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association ) was a major player in crafting the legislation. The AMA gave it their full support even as their rank and file is being driven out of business.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I often wonder, who is running that place, I expect you do too
It has occurred to me it is the gnomes of New York recently migrated from Zurich
So now the krudd and his minions have discovered magic pudding economics, I wonder how they could so easily identify this new economic system
Chris Bowen ridicules Coalition's promise of company tax cut by 2015 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Could it be they have been using it for 6 years
Going from 30 per cent to 28.5 per cent and making the appropriate budget cuts would probably be a benefit for your economy.
Tom I've done the maths it would take a very long time for the average small business to afford another worker. Therefore the reduction just goes into the business owners pocket. What this is about is pandering to the electorate, playing to the crowd and gilding the lily. When we talk about company tax rates we need to talk about effective rates not the posted rate. What I would like to know is how much tax those Chinese businesses who have bought agricultural properties will pay..Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Tax isn't an issue in this economy what is an issue is overspending and both parties are guilty of it. They feel they have to make a new promise every day. I'm waiting for the expressways to nowhere and the very fast train which would be useful considering the performance of our airports in recent days. These are the projects that are trotted out in every election, the second Sydney Airport raised its ugly head today, a project I remember fifty years ago when I first became interested in politics. I expect the big announcement that the ayslum seekers policies are working, we have already had the advance press on this
What people here call infrastructure investment is actually pork paved over with asphalt.Quote:
I'm waiting for the expressways to nowhere
We don't have infrastructure investment we have the future fund which funds wonderful projects none of us have any idea about, it was a conservative policy embraced by the left.
There are wonderful projects out there to be embraced, Conex, the north west rail line, the high speed rail link and because NSW is a battlegound state I expect them all to have promises of funding
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Originally Posted by tomder55
I did a little bit of research. Apparently the current and former CEO's are both Republicans. Although one of them was a former Democrat.
Humm... seems like political corporatism is alive and well.
And if political parties were relevant that would matter. If you haven't guessed yet ,I'm not a Republic.
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Originally Posted by tomder55
They are not relevant. That's the whole idea.
I never said you were a Republican.
Your views as expressed here are strongly republican, you are certainly opposed to democrat policy perhaps your aversion to socialism places you even further right than the republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
As far as guessing, I would say I couldn't have guessed you are a democrat anymore than I could have guessed Krudd is Labor
Nope I express conservative views. The Repubics did for a brief time during Reagan . But no longer . They are as big government as the Dems.Quote:
Your views as expressed here are strongly republican
Former Queensland premier Peter Beattie will stand in federal seat of Forde in election | News.com.au
Krudd is desperate, just as Gillard was desperate, He has Peter Beattie as a candidate in Queensland, a man who destroyed the economy of the state of Queensland and he still has Bob Carr by his side, the man who created the mess in NSW. On what planet do the voters not remember what these men did and Krudd thinks we want another dose. Think again, Krudd because we do not want more of the Krudd that has been served up by Labor
Kevin Rudd accuses Tony Abbott of holding talks with Rupert Murdoch over NBN - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
The campaign hots up but the real news is the way Rupert depics Krudd as the bumbling Klink from the WWII comedy Hogans Heroes with Thompson as Hogan the scam artist extraordinaire. There is a not too veiled reference here to Krudd as a Nazi Kamp Kommandant
So who is Sgt Schultz ? KRudd is taking a page from the Obots . They demonize Fox ,a Murdoch network .
Albanese, the new deputy Prime Minister, former party whip and leader of the house, caught drinking with disgraced MP Craig Thomson. This cartoon is as much a reference to him being on the shady side as anything else
It is clear Murdoch has come squarely out against Labor and there local reasons for this, their abortive attempt to attack media ownership and limit the reach of ownership. The local press thinks it is because the NBN challenges cable but the NBN has been a factor for six years, it is not something new. It is interesting he is doing it in the Telegraph, which is a working class tabloid. The Murdoch broadsheet The Australian presents a much more balanced view
Do we really have candidates as dumb as this?
Stephanie Banister Channel Seven Interview, One Nation Candidate Interview
It seems those Sarah Palin types are not confined to the northern climes. With a foot in both mouths this candidate took to the hustings
She would fit in well with the Paleoconsevatives here
So does this mean you are in a Neo-paleolithic era and accept Kopy Kats
No. There are actually very few nativists here. I welcome legal immigration. That has always been a positive for this country. All I ask is that if someone emigrates here ,that they are screened before entry and are eligible to come under the established law. We can debate the details... but until the borders are properly controlled ,this issue will never be solved.
Tom exactly our attitude and we expend resources patrolling the Indian Ocean to enforce our border policy. What I don't get and nor does the illegal immigrant, if you don't respect our laws we don't want you, you cannot make your own rules and wander about wherever you like, this is for your own protection. Eg; if they land in the north they face crocodile, shark, snake, jelly fish, lack of water, lack of habitation, lack of food lack of shelter perhaps even hostile traditional owners who don't have a good attitude towards them, not to mention the real possibility of loss at sea crossing a vast ocean.
Solving the border issue doesn't stop them coming the pull factors are too great, what it does is diminish the numbers who get through. What has to be solved is the reason they leave their homeland in the first place
Yup and the 1st lawless act is entering the country without permission.Quote:
What I don't get and nor does the illegal immigrant, if you don't respect our laws we don't want you,
That's right, we don't have an open doors policy, in fact I don't know any country that does but these people have an arrogance that is beyond belief, it seems that once they get outside their own country they think they can do whatever they like. We are fed up with rescuing people from unseaworthy boats and having our courts filled with applications for hearings to overturn immigration department decisions.
I see our government has made an interesting decision on visa fees, quite the reverse of what I would have done, a working visa costs $4,000 and a family parent reconciliation visa $50,000 and yet they think they can rock up in a leaky boat and bypass the process
does this guy ever shut up?
Kevin Rudd breathes fire and brimstone into campaign
Tony Abbott has had enough of Krudd's negative approach and let Krudd get under his skin at last nights debate. All we are hearing in this campaign is how Abbott will cut expenditure as the tactics of fear heat up but Abbott is upfront he will cut 12000 jobs by attrition which would be the "jobs for the boys" growth in the public service under Labor
It's always the end of the world when someone dare suggest that government should be reined in.
Yes but unfortunately the tactics seem to be working with Krudd getting a surge in the polls
It's come to this, a key candidate in Australia's Wikileaks Party has resigned, and you got to love the reasoning...
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Julian Assange on Thursday took responsibility for the resignation of a key candidate from his WikiLeaks Party running in Australian elections, blaming his focus on Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning.
The fledgling party is in crisis after its number two candidate for the Australian Senate behind Assange, ethicist Leslie Cannold, said she was disillusioned with its lack of transparency and accountability and quit Wednesday.
Read more: Assange blames Manning, Snowden for WikiLeaks Party chaos | Fox News
I wonder if Assange is a transformer like Manning ?
TNR headline: He Is Not Bradley Manning. She Is Chelsea Manning. Deal With It.
Get ready, the next left's most obviously necessary cause will be forcing the Army to accommodate convicted transformers..
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Manning's lawyer, David Coombs, said, "I'm hoping that Fort Leavenworth would do the right thing and provide that. If Fort Leavenworth does not, then I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that they are forced to do so.”)
I am open minded but for now let me use your name... speechlesstx.
And he has lost more that one. It seems an "administrative mistake" occurred when doing preference deals so that some radical self interested minor parties were preferenced, not to mention the rift in how the party is managed by its hands on leader and everyoneelse who are on the ground. You have to understand these fellows have a snowballs of being elected to anything. If Assange did get up on a sympathy vote he wouldn't carry enough support to get others on his ticket over the line so those votes would help the undesirables to get electedQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-2...oblems/4904366
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