Doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
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Doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I guess photo ops are OK now... but not when Obama does it. Hard to keep track.Quote:
I'm sure a Democrat would never take advantage of a photo op like that.
Hello again, tom:
Long enough to ACCOMPLISH her objective...Quote:
how many hours was her 'filibuster ' ?
How long was Cruz's? How long would it have to be in order achieve an UN-achievable objective, or NO objective at all? I can't tell yet exactly what he was trying to achieve.
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I have nothing against photo ops for Obama, some of them are really good for a laugh. You can get one with him, for a fee. My issue with him his some of his photo props.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
But come on, it was his little girls watching him read Dr. Seuss, it was adorable. They wouldn't pick on Obama's kids that way.
The filibuster hero has even bigger plans. No not Cruz, Wendy Davis.
Wendy Davis tells Democrats she’s in
This should be fun, I'll enjoy watching Greg Abbott waging war on this woman.
Ted Cruz accomplished his main goal for sure: enriching the coffers of Ted Cruz.
So it was all about money for Ted, eh? Good thing Democrats are above the fray where that's concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I don't understand your point. If one person does something wrong then it's open season to do that thing?
Lol, I have no idea how you could possibly think that was the point. I realize sarcasm is difficult, but think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Explain your point to me please.
A question, followed by sarcasm. Figure it out.
That's what you and smoothy always seem to say. Oh well.
It wasn't that difficult to comprehend and I don't "always seem to" or in fact ever do what Smoothy does. Do not lump me in with anyone else.
"If there's a government shut down,
who will spy on me,
waste my money
block responsible resource development
borrow more money from foreign countries to give to foreign countries
mortgage my kids' future to bail out their friends on Wall Street & finance their big government crony capitalism
misplace" IRS receipts and ledgers to the tune of tens of millions
Stockpile ammo at DHS
Commandeer pro athletes to testify in front of Congress while watching bureaucrats plead the Fifth??
That's true regardless of what party is in office... now what do you do?
And ? I don't defend the Republic statists ?
What's a "rebupic"?
Never mind, got it: Urban Dictionary: repubic
That really makes you even handed... NOT! LOL!
Really I just thought it was someone who was up himself, lot of it about
The republican house is taking it's marching orders from Sen. Ted Cruz, the new president of the TParty. He and his Director of public relations Rush Limbaugh vow to continue to lie to the public, and supply all the red meat the right wing can handle.
Naaahh... that would still be Jim DeMintQuote:
the new president of the TParty
So Cruz is a DeMint puppet? DeMint is a Koch brothers puppet. Is this not crony capitalism on your side? How is it better than our crony capitalism?
Here is a list of the top corporate donors... The Koch Bros. are on the list... But they aren't in the 50 top corporate donors.
Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets
It amazes me how the left demonizes the Koch Bros when the largest percentage of corporate $$$ goes into Democrat bank accounts . DeMint and Cruz are not fans of cronyism . And at least the Koch brothers donate their own money... not like the unions who make donations from rank and file dues.
Also of note... that evil News Corp,parent company of FOX News gave a majority of their donations to Democrats. What does that tell you ?
Even YOU guys don't like your guys. Whose fault is that?
And you like all of yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The ones I vote for and give money and time to.
In other words, the answer to my question is no, you don't like all of your guys either.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hey don't make this about me and what I do. My statement was about what Tom posted. Seems to me your growing minority future ain't sitting well with you TParty types, who are failing to attract those who want government to work for all of us.
You would rather holler, squeal, and obstruct, and destroy, than MAKE it work. You can't work with your fellow republicans who want to work with democrats and find middle of the road solutions to self inflicted problems. And Ted Cruz is the new messiah to deliver for you.
The goal is to destroy our government, and that's pretty selfish of you.
You're the one who said we don't like our own guys, I'm just pointing out neither do you.-And if I were you I'd cut the "we just want to make it work" nonsense. The president won't talk to Republicans but he will talk to Iran. Reid pronounces everything the GOP does DOA - even if some Dems support it - and your idea of "live and let live" is in practice, "you'll do as I say and like it."Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
He had invited them to talk with him about the ACA during its planning, but they refused and said they would stop at nothing to get him out of the WH. NOW they want to talk?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
When was that, right after he said "I won?" After he mobilized his snitch patrol? Some of us remember the facts quite differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Not true . They were shut out of all the substansive meetings when the law was crafted . 45 separate Repub amendments were rejected out of hand without debate or a floor vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Your facts are incomplete, While some amendments were rejected, many more were adopted.
Republican Ideas Included in the President's Proposal | The White House
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Review a few of the Republican initiatives included in legislation passed by Congress:
•Includes personal responsibility incentives: Allows health insurance premium to vary based on participation in proven employer wellness programs
◦(Sources: H.R. 3468, “Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act” (Castle bill); H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill), "Coverage, Prevention and Reform Act")
•Advances medical liability reform through grants to States: Provides grants to States to jump-start and evaluate promising medical liability reform ideas to put patient safety first, prevent medical errors, and reduce liability premiums.
◦(Sources: S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America's Future Act” (Ryan bill); S. 1099, “Patients' Choice Act” (Burr-Coburn, Ryan-Nunes bill))
•Extends dependent coverage to age 26: Gives young adults new options.
◦(Sources: H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill))
•Allows automatic enrollment by employers in health insurance: Allows employee to opt-out.
◦(Sources: House Republican Substitute; H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); “Coverage, Prevention, and Reform Act” )
•Mechanisms to improve quality.
◦(Sources: H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America's Future Act;” S. 1099, “Patients' Choice Act;” H.R. 3400, Republican Study Group bill; S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill))
•Community Mental Health Centers. The President's Proposal ensures that individuals have access to comprehensive mental health services in the community setting, but strengthens standards for facilities that seek reimbursement as community mental health centers by ensuring these facilities are providing appropriate care and not taking advantage of Medicare patients or the taxpayers.
◦(Source: H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act”)
Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act of 2009 (2009; 111th Congress H.R. 3468) - GovTrack.us
H.R. 3468 (111th): Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for... Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act of 2009
Introduced:Jul 31, 2009 (111th Congress, 2009–2010)Sponsor:Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE0]Status: Died (Referred to Committee)
I won't bother fact checking the rest of the emperor's lies .
It made its way into the ACA. How did that happen?
I'm sure that in the 2000 pages of the law there are some provisions that once the emperor's flunkies searched long and hard enough had some simularities to previous Republic bills. There were SPECIFIC amendments that were introduced by Repubics that were ignore and dismissed out of hand without consideration or debate . That is just the facts . The Repubs were shut out of the crafting of the legislation... something LBJ NEVER would have permitted to happen.
Who cares what LBJ would have done.
Well that was a time when the Dems had all the power ,and still had the courtesy to make major sea-change legislations bi-partisan. All LBJ did was get entitlement and civil rights legislation passed with Republic support .
Times have changed. People are partisan fanatics and divisiveness is the order of the day - bringing the other person down. No pubics required.
Nahh our politics was always divided . Leaders have always overcome that... even Clintoon
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